i'd like it if you could try to explain this when you're calmer because the signal:noise is very low right now
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:59 pm
by Infinity Zero
In post 380, SCP 999 wrote:like its 2021 - why are we still equating certain actions to scum actions?
just call it a policy and don't pretend it is otherwise.
I agree with you that the “disagree = scummy” thing is stupid as fuck, and Cephrir’s response basically did nothing to actually address what you said about it
In post 320, Cephrir wrote:I guess probably no one but gamma will understand that post
While it’d probably be fun to gab about this I also kinda don’t wanna when your SR on me is in terrible faith? Like, you are clearly blind to the fact the same shit you seem to be pushing us for is the same shit you pulled.
-Gamma
you can't just call everything you don't like bad faith. it's not a good way to start a conversation when i literally know for a fact that it is not in bad faith.
i don't really have any idea what you're talking about though.
How the hell else am I supposed to take you calling your approach to SM acceptable and then slamming us when we’ve basically done the same damn shit in that department? I don’t think mechanics and meta talk are fair things to push us on when the game had barely started generating real content when SM got hammered and meta is basically the backbone of my playstyle, as much as I try to fight it.
-Gamma
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:07 pm
by Infinity Zero
And like, I think on some level you know
exactly
what I’m getting at here and are refusing to accept the underlying truth that the fact I’m not pushing you as scum for things that I know that you just are prone to doing is a sign that I’m trying to actually make this count. I am town here and the sooner you accept that the sooner we can make real progress towards catching scum.
That last sentence goes to all of (Cephrir, Dunn, LLD).
-Gamma
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:08 pm
by Infinity Zero
In post 386, SCP 999 wrote:town:
dunns
cephir
infinity
LLD(purely mech - should be discarded later on if nothing dayplay wise shows up)
ampharos
galron
the almost town timeout corner because i might be a little salty but also not that confident:
dwlee
honestly cannot feel this one out either way:
roden
le scum:
sircakez
zyla
unordered within tiers
a few slots i need to holistically examine to make sure but im not pressed when i literally cant die unless town really wants to discard logic so.
These reads are basically perfectly in line with how me and Infinity are both perceiving this game rn
-Gamma
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:15 pm
by Infinity Zero
Spoiler: For SCP 999 only
Koba I’m gonna be dead-serious here: a big reason why I get mad at you for pushing me is because I know you have the social capital to actually convince people to follow that read, so my best course of action generally feels like it’s to tear into you for it and make you second-guess. You’re honestly kinda my idol rn because you have a way more charisma and respect from others than I do with way less exp on the site, and I also value your active contributions to catching rule-breakers on this site, when the best I could manage when I saw what was happening with Krazy and votato was to basically run away.
-Gamma
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:31 pm
by Cephrir
In post 402, Infinity Zero wrote:How the hell else am I supposed to take you calling your approach to SM acceptable and then slamming us when we’ve basically done the same damn shit in that department? I don’t think mechanics and meta talk are fair things to push us on when the game had barely started generating real content when SM got hammered and meta is basically the backbone of my playstyle, as much as I try to fight it.
i don't feel that we have done the same shit in that department. different posts are different even if they include the same votes. i also feel that this pissiness from you is your scum meta, but i know that hearing that isn't going to help
this game is so weird why is everyone fixated on the weirdest shit
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:35 pm
by Infinity Zero
While I have had a lot more rage in my scumgames recently, I’m also just getting a lot angrier in general I feel. I feel like the big catalyst is a feeling of being stuck, in so many ways. And what about my comments on the other things you have actually cited for reasons why we’re scummy?
-Gamma
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:49 pm
by Cephrir
In post 176, Infinity Zero wrote:Could someone please tell me why the hell we’re actually getting sussed? The most I’ve seen was Ceph saying that we’re “focused on mechanics” which at least on my part I don’t feel like I have been, and I think picking at me for talking about other games in relation to this one is the dumbest fucking thing ever for Cephrir who’s played me plenty enough to know that’s how I am. And everyone that isn’t Cephrir has done jack-fucking-all to rationalize SRing us.
-Gamma
on a quick skim of your iso this is the only post i see that fits the above description, but i could be missing something.
it's true that you do like to talk about other games a lot.
i'll think on it some more. i haven't lockscummed you forever and am feeling chill about the whole thing at this exact moment
In post 373, Infinity Zero wrote:As I see it 304 is basically innocuous if you see that it’s responding to Cakez’s posting as a while where he expresses suspicion on us and then suggests Dwlee as the designated mislim (despite no real evidence in favor imo),
I thought that after I made my post and was thinking you would say that as well.
However, your hydra responded with the following instead:
In post 322, SirCakez wrote:i literally said dwlee is a scum designated mislim with no mention of any names and you somehow felt the post was addressed to you IZ
guilty conscience
there have been 2 votes on dwlee this whole game come on dude
-infinity
Which was a different, reachy angle, and I consider that to be scummy.
? all i was saying is that i made an inference about who cakez was accusing there and it was really not that much of a reach (because again, only 2 votes on dwlee)
-infinity
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:26 am
by GuyInFreezer
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:31 am
by Infinity Zero
cakez does feel like scum to me, he seems to be lacking a bit of the edge i'm used to from town!him
ceph's posts on this page feel towny, the emotion of not knowing whether to re-evaluate feels towny.
i want ampharos to post more
i feel like most of the game content has been focused on us so getting reads outside of that is tough. my strongest read is on koba but even that it's hard to explain, it's just like, read their posts. they're so free-flowing
-infinity
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:48 am
by Galron
VOTE: Zyla
I thought I had already put a vote down.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:52 am
by Galron
In post 231, Galron wrote:Dwlee doesn't seem upset their hammer was taken.
In post 113, Dwlee99 wrote:I wanted to give them a chance to actually flavor claim smh
I was wrong about Dwlee.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:39 am
by Galron
I'm not getting the scum vibes from InfinityZone that I kind of was earlier.
Do not want to elaborate there. Cakez felt good when he was here and his reaction to you was the same as mine
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:03 am
by SCP 999
but ellaborate because he is flipping red
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:13 am
by Dwlee99
Amph flipping red? Why?
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:29 am
by SCP 999
How did you get amph from me saying "he is flipping red" after you mentioned cakez
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:33 am
by Dwlee99
I said I don't want to elaborate on amph
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:33 am
by SCP 999
i read LLD's iso and she literally towntold 0 times this whole game so her claim may be fake.
Theres only 1 unaccounted for dclass and i am already a town protective - and for me to DISABLE my ability is 2 dclass so I'm having trouble believing this vig claim - especially since its 1 shot and so gated supposedly.
Evaluating based on dayplay I would vote for lld as well here as pressure but I know no-one treats mechs like i do so lol