Dwlee is a rolestopper of some form who targeted me N1 because I got a rolestopper N1 and Dwlee basically counterclaimed DKKoba yesterday and I was able to put 2 + 2 together and realize that Dwlee targeted me N1 as a rolestopper and was suspicious of DKKoba claiming the
exact
role, of rolestopper.
However, in spite of me knowing Dwlee was a rolestopper and DKKoba claimed rolestopper, I came to the same conclusion Dwlee did: that Dwlee is town and a real rolestopper but gated by being pre-evolution, and DKKoba is town and a full rolestopper by having evolved.
I have a hard guilty on them. They are confirmed to be a member of Team Rocket.
~I
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In post 3477, Dwlee99 wrote:TIL if you have a result on me claim it so I can at least make sure you go one for one with me
I have a hard guilty on you. You are confirmed to be a member of team Rocket.
~I
I am going to ask again. What does psychic do?
For all practical purposes, I’m like an AC. That’s why I was informed that one member of the scumteam is a gf, so guilties are accurate but until gf is flipped, I can only get conditional innos.
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In post 3492, Critter wrote:Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.
I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.
~I
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In post 3492, Critter wrote:Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.
I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.
~I
So EM Lazy Cop, okay
How would Titus have an explanation for that?
I don’t buy it because why would I be redirected? All I claimed was informed about gf.
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In post 3492, Critter wrote:Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.
I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.
~I
AC. What does that stand for?
alignment cop because of my result. I’m obviously not a tracker/watcher and I’m not ungated.
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In post 3492, Critter wrote:Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.
I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.
~I
So EM Lazy Cop, okay
How would Titus have an explanation for that?
I don’t buy it because why would I be redirected? All I claimed was informed about gf.
Bus Driver swaps targets not actors.
Let's say I target Cakez.
A bus driver swaps Cakez and Critter.
I really target Critter.
I know what a bus dtiver does but no one knew I had that ability and no one could have known I would target Dwelee, so unless you’re going to argue framer, I don’t see how my results are wrong.
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In post 3492, Critter wrote:Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.
I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.
~I
So EM Lazy Cop, okay
How would Titus have an explanation for that?
I don’t buy it because why would I be redirected? All I claimed was informed about gf.
Bus Driver swaps targets not actors.
Let's say I target Cakez.
A bus driver swaps Cakez and Critter.
I really target Critter.
I know what a bus dtiver does but no one knew I had that ability and no one could have known I would target Dwelee, so unless you’re going to argue framer, I don’t see how my results are wrong.
I think you got a guilty, I just doubt it's on Dwlee.
No one knew I could cop check and no one knew I would target Dwele.
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In post 3560, Critter wrote:So I am seriously going to be now. I think Nancy is scum.
Y’all are free to do as you want but I do not think Nancy is town and I need someone to explain like I am 5 when she is
I have only seen scummy behavior from her
1) Claimed a cop check that likely doesn’t exist
2) Shut down any attempts at communication and hunting I tried yesterday
3) Dominates the thread and doesn’t let anyone else speak
I legit do not get the townreads.
I have never faked a guilty ever. What part of you can’t fucking read?
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In post 3546, Wisdom wrote:Nancy what's the flavor for your two abilities?
I don’t understand what you’re asking exactly.
My only favour is my Pokemon.
Your abilities are pokemon moves, no?
Like FB's neighborizer was Dragon Dance
I’m Absol if that helps.
I’m checking with the mod whether you can elaborate but I have an idea as to the move that goes with your delayed cop
Yeah, I don’t want to get modkilled. My role is obviously not as strong as FB’s because it’s delayed which is why I didn’t get a result until today and you won’t find out my Critter result until D5.
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Look I have never fucking faked a goddamned fucking guilty ever, so you can just look stupid when they flip scum.
Oh I checked you last night. You had better hope I don’t die tonight.
Cool then if you are town we have cop chain a palooza but I doubt it
Idk who you are but if you’re actually town here, I’d prefer you don’t play in my games.
This feels a little harsh :/
I’m not okay with being accused of lying about something that I have a history to back it up. Not just here but on MU as well, never ever faked a guilty.
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In post 3582, Critter wrote:Why? It’s a brilliant gambit. Going away now but like this day is just levels of bad imho.
Hi.
Faking a guilty usually requires a 1 shot claim. Otherwise, the player must keep taking.
It just doesn't add up.
Sure it does. Nancy’s post rate is insane. Then eventually when everyone is clear “god father”. I am going to bed please let me. I think it’s antitown to continue this when I am barely awake
I really hope you’re scum and not this godawful at this game.
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In post 3582, Critter wrote:Why? It’s a brilliant gambit. Going away now but like this day is just levels of bad imho.
Hi.
Faking a guilty usually requires a 1 shot claim. Otherwise, the player must keep taking.
It just doesn't add up.
Sure it does. Nancy’s post rate is insane. Then eventually when everyone is clear “god father”. I am going to bed please let me. I think it’s antitown to continue this when I am barely awake
Because there actually fucking is one in this setup, you dolt.
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Let Wisdom and maybe Critter come after me. Just cool off.
Trust me, we'll at least get something.
I have no interest in going after anyone besides Nancy which won’t happen so it’s a protest vote.
Then I can get my cop check tonight then check someone
Probably be dead by D5 killed on N4 so Nancy says I am town.
That’s probably how this works.
I just figure it’s best I scream it before I die.
I won’t be accepting your apology post-game.
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Let Wisdom and maybe Critter come after me. Just cool off.
Trust me, we'll at least get something.
I have no interest in going after anyone besides Nancy which won’t happen so it’s a protest vote.
Then I can get my cop check tonight then check someone
Probably be dead by D5 killed on N4 so Nancy says I am town.
That’s probably how this works.
I just figure it’s best I scream it before I die.
I won’t be accepting your apology post-game.
Not sure what I would need to apologize for anyway. I think you’re scum. That doesn’t require an apology. Could I be wrong? Yes. But I don’t think there’s three different cop checks in a game.
Yes you are wrong. I’m both delayed and gated, which means I only have one more left. Are you happy now that your rolefishing paid off? I really fucking hope so. I have 3 checks in total and I’m sure I will be dead before I ever get results of the third.
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In post 3609, Wisdom wrote:Guys just stop fighting each other
Youre both town
First sensible thing you have said in awhile.
Right now, the best we are getting from Critter is agree to disagree and Nancy devaluing Critter's opinions. We have to accept that though.
Not like anyone cared when y’all rushed through the T3 elim anyway so nothing new there. Wake me when it’s night time and dictate who we’re voting. Used to it. Wake me when it’s N3.
I never checked T3.
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In post 3607, Critter wrote:And if I am wrong and you’re town, I bought you an additional check. Either way we win. So let me idiot.
How? You gave me an extra shot? But I think it’s extremely unlikely I get to use it. I either get rb’d or I die.
I am saying I get killed.
Are you claiming bg?
We’re both cops, my one shot from the grave. I get shot you get shot. You’ll be protected/rolestopped as everyone trusts you.
I die.
You get protected again. You get off a shot.
I’m not a vig, I can’t shoot anyone.
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Titus, I hope you don’t tell us to let the thread breathe. It’s kind’ve pinging me a bit that you’re trying to referee us because that’s what you did in Boon BTDT.
Anyway, I think Critter is town now which means that my result can only be a conditional inno, so maybe I live to D6 because I’m probably no threat to scum until D7, unless of course we get lucky and lim the gf, then I can get real innos.
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In post 3573, Gamma Emerald wrote:Faking a guilty is just something you don’t fucking do if you care for your reputation as a player?
Why? It’s a brilliant gambit. Going away now but like this day is just levels of bad imho.
As scum ig, but for me Nancy is irrevocably town, so you’re accusing a town player of faking a guilty when that player is one who looks to be saying “my code of ethical play would never include pulling a stunt like faking a guilty as town”.
I haven’t faked it as scum either but yeah I don’t have a lot of respect for that. It’s just dumb because no one believes you.
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Gamma is right, these two dont go together. Either you checked him last night and you're getting it this night, or you're checking him this night and you're getting it on N4.
I’m delayed. I checked Dwelee N1 and got the result today. I will not get any result until the following night or I would have gotten that guilty yesterday.
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Gamma is right, these two dont go together. Either you checked him last night and you're getting it this night, or you're checking him this night and you're getting it on N4.
Yes I get it N4 but can’t claim it until D5. I obviously got Dwelee result N2 - at the end of the night.
I get results the following night.
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Gamma is right, these two dont go together. Either you checked him last night and you're getting it this night, or you're checking him this night and you're getting it on N4.
Yes I get it N4 but can’t claim it until D5. I obviously got Dwelee result N2 - at the end of the night.
I get results the following night.
But you’ll get it N3?
Check Gamma N1, Result N2, claim D3
Add one to all those
Check me N2, result N3, say I am town D4.
Oh right, I’m dyslexic but yeah that’s probably correct.
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In post 3638, Gamma Emerald wrote:She also says her next result will be D7 so it sounds like D5 was right
So either she queues actions now and gets them throughout the game or each check takes 2 nights and she can’t queue actions
I get results the following night or I would have had them yesterday.
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In post 3644, Critter wrote:Assuming your claim is true (please I am really trying here)
You should get my inno tonight
And player X the night and their alignment the night after that.
So every day you should open with results.
I appreciate that. I am not ungated. I have only one shot left but you say you’re giving a 4th but I’m probably dead before I can use it, that or I’m rb’d. Unless I’m rolestopped is the only way that hapoens.
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In post 3647, Wisdom wrote:There is because like Gamma said you then talked about D7, as if your role didnt allow you to check each night (which is how I originally imagined your role worked too)
But apparently you are insisting now that you can check every night
I can check 3 times on any night but don’t get results until the following night. I think Critter explained it well.
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In post 3651, Wisdom wrote:I mean dwlee flip will enlighten us about Nancy anyway so I dont need to worry about it
I was recently scum and I never faked any guilties. I have never faked a guilty. My message told me my N1 target Dweelee, is a member of team Rocket , so unless there’s something unaccounted for in the setup to explain it or mod error, they should flip scum.
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In post 3651, Wisdom wrote:I mean dwlee flip will enlighten us about Nancy anyway so I dont need to worry about it
I don’t know why you’re suddenly even doubting me. Do you remember the first run of Gameshow when I used the word “we” to refer to scum? Both you and RC accused me of scumslipping but it’s just my dyslexia. I was town in that.
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In post 3654, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:My message told me my N1 target Dweelee, is a member of team Rocket , so unless there’s something unaccounted for in the setup to explain it or mod error, they should flip scum.
Did it say "dwlee" in the message or just "your n1 target"?
N1 target but that was Dweele, so what’s your point?
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In post 3651, Wisdom wrote:I mean dwlee flip will enlighten us about Nancy anyway so I dont need to worry about it
I don’t know why you’re suddenly even doubting me. Do you remember the first run of Gameshow when I used the word “we” to refer to scum? Both you and RC accused me of scumslipping but it’s just my dyslexia. I was town in that.
Do you not remember this or do I need to find you the quote?
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Dwlee is scum here, obviously, but between Gamma claiming that the rolestop I got N1 is his, not Dwlee's, Dwlee claiming a rolestop variant that I did not get, and the guilty claim, I genuinely believe that just on policy, we need to eliminate Dwlee. Dwlee's not lockscum but for Dwlee to be town requires a series of events that are incredibly unfortunate and unlikely. Two rolestoppers both in the game with different modifiers, targeting me, on top of a third player evolving into a rolestopper, on top of whatever would cause a wrong result from the investigation on Dwlee. It's not impossible and if Dwlee flips town we'll know that it did in fact happen in spite of how incredibly improbable they were, but by following Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is Dwlee as scum and anything other than Dwlee-scum is less simple.)
The combination of Dwlee targeting mastina after another rolestopper did the same, plus someone bussing Dwlee so TIL's result was wrong, doesn't seem likely.
I don't know if I'd go as far as to say 'incredibly improbable'. For one thing, with multiple investigative roles it doesn't seem a stretch to imagine there being a bus driver in this game and I remember Dwlee was under some suspicion end of D1 so if Dwlee is town it wouldn't have been a bad idea for scum to bus and hope to frame Dwlee. I just don't think that's
as likely
as Dwlee being scum.
I am kinda interested in hearing the clarification mastina sought about whether she'd get the full power with all conditions. Just because I don't see the scum motive for Dwlee to lie about only being able to target scum if they knew it wouldn't match what mastina got.
But TIL's result is enough to justify us limming Dwlee here even without that clarification, I think.
VOTE: Dwlee99
On Critter/TIL:
Faking a gated investigative role in this game, in general, doesn't seem as risky/foolish as it would be in most games. Perhaps especially as it seems like there are multiple gated investigative roles and multiple blocking type roles.
(a guessing game who's the lying nerfed cop among say four variously nerfed investigative roles is less risky than who's the lying cop among two normal cops).
That said, while I intensely dislike their aggro arrogant play style I don't think TIL is lying in this situation. 1 for 1 seems a bad trade for scum and it is 1 for 1 here because if Dwlee flips town I don't think the hypothetical bus driver theories would be enough to save TIL from being limmed tomorrow.
I think multiple scum are among Dwlee, Titus, and Milobird.
Over the next day I'm going to focus on trying to get a read on the following players cos I currently have no idea about them all and I think if there's scum not in the above three it's among these:
KTT, chowchow, WhemeStar
To varying degrees I lean town on everyone else.
Yeah, I think I lost my Titus tr when she tried to manage me and Critter, which would autospew you town, if she flips scum.
I don’t understand your Milo read however. I was suss on them D1 but I liked them yesterday.
~I
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In post 3654, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:My message told me my N1 target Dweelee, is a member of team Rocket , so unless there’s something unaccounted for in the setup to explain it or mod error, they should flip scum.
Did it say "dwlee" in the message or just "your n1 target"?
N1 target but that was Dweele, so what’s your point?
Also I just asked this because I remembered a game where a gunsmith got a guilty on me by name, and left me no space to argue about redirection
So was just checking
That’s a really good take. Yeah N1 target is clearer. In Labrynth I was redirected but I was a loud jk in that so obviously different.
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I was told your N1 target is aligned with Team Rocket and that of course was Dwelee. I think I’ve played enough games with them now to be able to decently meta read them now and I felt they were different here from FFIV and when Koba called them scum, I thought they sounded very similar to the King’s Robes game where they were scum and my result confirmed it.
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In post 3483, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay and your result? That I visited mastina N1 and didn't go anywhere last night or?
It’s interesting that he auto assumed I was a tracker because it’s much easier to find reasons to debunk that. And another thing that I find interesting is that they mentioned both nights. If I were tracker I’d only have results for one. I really do feel confident that Dwelee will flip scum here and Titus likely a buddy. Weird that she tells Critter to wait to speak to Milo though but I don’t know what to read into that.
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Looks like we were asked for flavour for our check twice and I think I missed seeing the answer (though Nancy did answer our pokemon flavour) - our delayed cop check is Future Sight.
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