the thing is it is also easily explained by cakez having a classic lolread on my slot so.In post 1243, Dwlee99 wrote:OooIn post 1229, SCP 999 wrote:Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)
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SirCakez wrote:oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba
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or afraid of a vig shot too actually and trying to play friendly lolIn post 1246, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't think defending LLD there is AI cause it could be TMI or defending a buddy- SCP 999
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Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)
Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)SirCakez wrote:In post 762, Galron wrote:
You showed up.In post 758, SirCakez wrote:
Why would you sheep me when you just said you were suspicious of meIn post 755, Galron wrote:Sheeping IZ, Cakez, whoever.
i don't really buy this - super sketchIn post 763, Galron wrote:Because I have no idea who to vote for, and the three of you were the latest posters.
what game is your reference here?In post 765, Galron wrote:
And you scum read me. Which is normal when we play.In post 762, Galron wrote:
You showed up.In post 758, SirCakez wrote:
Why would you sheep me when you just said you were suspicious of meIn post 755, Galron wrote:Sheeping IZ, Cakez, whoever.
I didn't realize you were on vacationIn post 767, Roden wrote:@Cakez: Trying to push a mis-elim on me in a low activity game when I'm clearly not even on site and already said I was on vacation is just cartoonishly scummy. Can you walk me through your thought process here? Because if you actually managed to flash wagon me before I came back, everyone would see my green flip and you'd be gone Day 3 for flash wagoning town two days in a row.
My viewpoint atm is scum is probably in the lurkers/low content players. Zyla was one of them but they have a good claim. You are in there too.
Also I barely had a hand in that stupid StrangeMatter wagon so trying to pin that on me is ridiculous
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I completely agree with thisIn post 774, Infinity Zero wrote:The problem is exactly that: I’m recognizing that all you’re putting out is noise. Your solving this game feels very weak-spirited, sure you sorted a good number of slots but it felt like your sorting wasn’t meaningful. Your activity doesn’t help but this is like when I prosecuted CheekyTeeky in LN 231, it’s all aboutwhat you do with your timethat determines how you’re read, for me. Where’s your sense ofdirection?
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Roden - it seems like you only put effort in here when the game is pushing you. You pretty much only showed up last time when I pushed you the first time. Your sorting doesn't feel town-motivated at all.
honestly I meant to respond to the rest of that but I forgotIn post 785, Roden wrote:I don't see how you can see me picking apart each detail of a post and decide I'm putting in zero effort, when the person I'm arguing with is barely even bothering to respond and won't admit that they can't argue against my points and thus just ignores it instead.
it's not a big part of my current reasoning for SRing you anyways
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hey that lesson that keeps popping up xD the way cephrir tried to wave around mechs and tried to make us townread them and cakez too hmm :3In post 35, SCP 999 wrote:
Maybe fucking take the hint that mechs are a ahiffy reason to make a read on someoneIn post 30, SirCakez wrote:
because Roden's claim seemed really legit and then he flipped scumIn post 29, Zyla wrote:
I'm honestly thinking between you and SCP-999 right now.In post 26, SirCakez wrote:who is scum? you open the day just defending yourself but I'm not seeing any scumhunting initiative
SCP-999 is acting like they're 100% clear, and yet the only thing we have to go on afaik is their word for what their SCP is
You, on the other hand did a 180 on whether or not you believe my claim overnight, and I don't see any reason for that.
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fun fact im a fucking geniusIn post 405, SCP 999 wrote:Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)
idk if i already quoted this but i wanted to make sure i dont forget this post but the fact roden is showing off that pushing Cephir early is a ~good~ thing is a bit of a perspective slip that cephir is his partner -> as well as the fact that cephir was pillowpushed earlier in the dayphase. I will have more complex thoughts on cephir x roden later as im currently still comparing roden x zyla atm but this stood out and i needed to post it here.Roden wrote:
What? I was pushing Ceph even after I unvoted, and I'm currently trying to gauge whether or not Cakez is short-sighted scum or just impulsive/bored town. You'd have a point if I was solo lurking in a hyper post game state, but I've given out more content, reads, and thought processes than half the players in the game, even with me being on vacation. You're just wrong here~~In post 774, Infinity Zero wrote:The problem is exactly that: I’m recognizing that all you’re putting out is noise. Your solving this game feels very weak-spirited, sure you sorted a good number of slots but it felt like your sorting wasn’t meaningful. Your activity doesn’t help but this is like when I prosecuted CheekyTeeky in LN 231, it’s all aboutwhat you do with your timethat determines how you’re read, for me. Where’s your sense ofdirection?
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no i dontIn post 1260, Dwlee99 wrote:Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)
Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)GuyInFreezer wrote:
Ampharos is in V/LA
Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)Roden wrote:The fact that the only reason this is even happening is because I didn't announce a V/LA is mind boggling. Literally getting scum read for going on vacation.
Do you see what I'm seeingDwlee99 wrote:It's also weird cause I didn't announce I was on vacation either. Well I posted a little bit and when Koba pushed me I said so but there wasn't a lot before there
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saw this but didnt think much of it.In post 1262, Dwlee99 wrote:Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)
alsoooSirCakez wrote:Dwlee is L-1
should I hammer? hm
p-edit: or Roden can do it too ig
i wanna review LLD with the knowledge of cephrir scum
all i saw was that LLD"s 3/3 read was actually 0/3 which is NAGL.
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Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)
oh hey we both had 2 scum on our listsDwlee99 wrote:Koba and I can work well together to find town and kill scum.
Their list was this:
Lady lambdadelta
SirCakez
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Galron
Dwlee99
I would like to vote in:
Infinity Zero (Infinity 324 + Gamma Emerald)
Cephrir
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Zyla
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Crossing off the names I do not want to kill in that list gives me:
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I think Koba is wrong somewhere here (or maybe more plausibly one of the names I crossed off is scum but that's to be reevaluated some other time.)
For now I want to vote where Koba and I agree, and that's either Roden or Galron. In my own poe I still think IZ is the scummiest. I think they straight up perspective slipped but I'm shelving it for now at least because I townread koba and they've drawn me away from bad tunnels other times- SCP 999
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Subject: Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 7)
Cephrir wrote:i did not realize what research immune meant
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I feel like you've been more aggressive in past town games I've played with you yeahIn post 976, Cephrir wrote:
have i ever done this in my life?In post 974, SirCakez wrote:tearing this place apart for scum
Who is this atIn post 977, Cephrir wrote:also, do i need to when your claim doesn't add up?
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I'm SCP-106 the old man
Each day I can pick someone to take into my pocket dimension that night, where we get a hood. It Ascetizes whoever I pick, so that's why I didn't use it night one. I also think that might be why there was no kill last night - I took T3 and he seemed like a NK target.- SCP 999
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Theres also the point that I proved LLD was reading the game and was withholding content early on - and then hid behind an excuse of not wanting to interact with me
I called the bluff and offered to not be in thread for some time so they can interact with others. Offer was declined
Also - scum confirmed dont have a roleblocker here - so what power makes sense here?- SCP 999
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me, taking a break after this gameIn post 1327, Dwlee99 wrote:
Okay fair. I also should not be playing mafia as much as I doIn post 1320, SirCakez wrote:
Because I'm in too many fucking games and have a lot of shit going on irlIn post 1318, Dwlee99 wrote:Why are you like completely unaware of your own stances throughout the game
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@t3 your turn to claim breach
i wanna go over all the mechs this game and see where we have gaps
for example all of N1 is accounted for - including the ninja.
and we go on from there and look at flips and stuff to see if we can solve through that potentially since we have so much info with the dclass usage and all.
i wish we knew more about how breaching works - like is it an action that needs to be assigned to a person, or is it just an action you can choose, etc. does it count as a visit, or what?
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also i did some work:
Resource use by night:
N1:
10 D Class
2 Security Guards
Unaccounted for: none
Claimed:
LLD/T3: 5 dclass + 2 guards
SCP 999: 2 dclass
Deadbeat: 2 dclass
Cephrir: 1 dclass
N2:
4 D-Class
Unaccounted for: None
Claimed:
Cakez: 3 dclass
Cephrir: 1 dclass
N3:
4 Dclass
Unaccounted for: None
Claimed:
Cakez: 3 Dclass
Cephrir: 1 dclass
N4:
10 dclass
Unaccounted for: none
Claimed:
Cakez: 3 dclass
Cephrir: 5 dclass
LLD/T3: 2 dclass
N5:
6 dclass
Unaccounted for: none
Claimed:
Cakez: 3 dclass
Cephrir: 1 dclass
LLD/T3: 2 Dclass
N6:
5 dclass
Unaccounted for: none
LLD/T3: 2 dclass
Cakez: 3 Dclass
Roles:
StrangeMatter:
Breach: IC + Full role reveal?
Abilities: 5 Dclass: cop check
Used: None
Deadbeat:
Breach: Scum use the fruit ability? probably.
Abilities: 2 dclass: passive upkeep 2 dclass: learn dead player actions+results
Used: 2 dclass passive upkeep n1
Roden:
Breach: 2nd ability activates
Abilities: 1 dclass: 1 shot janitor | Passive(breach): modified self role watcher
Used: 1 dclass janitor n1
Ampharos:
Breach: Use doc shots = number of scum
Abilities: Passive: once all doc shots are used, will die. 1 pill: doc shot(can be used unlimited)
Used: 1 pill on dunns n1
Galron:
Breach: Becomes lightning rod
Ability: 2 consecutive visits = compulsive visits until roleblocked
Used: none
Dunnstral:
Breach: Roleblock next night
Abilities: Passive: self watcher, 2nd ability: 0 dclass, can “draw” objects. Unknown use.
Used: none
Infinity:
Breach: Lose 5 dclass + 2 security guard
Abilities: Passive: earn 100 yen currency if on elim wagon | 100 yen: commuter 200 yen: roleblock 300 yen: tracker
Used: 300 yen, tracker
Cephrir/Ydrasse:
Breach: random cat pictures everywhere, can self activate anytime
Abilities: 1 dclass: ninja 5 dclass: 1 shot redirector
Used: 3 dclass ninja? n1+n2 5 dclass redirector
Zyla/Enchant:
Breach: Permanently messes vote count
Ability: will obscure vote
Used: no resources
SCP 999:
Breach: nothing
Ability: Passive: reflexively roleblocks anyone who targets them | 2 dclass: deactivates reflexive roleblock
Used: 2 dclass n1
Cakez:
Breach: 5 dclass + 3 guards dead
Ability: day action? Invites to a PT, incoming actions are roleblocked, outgoing are not. Cost: 3 dclasss
Use: n2-n6, 3 dclass per night
Dwlee:
Breach: Double actions for all visitors
Ability: Doublevoter, deactivated at limlo
Use: none
T3:
Breach: ???
Abilities: 2 dclass: Learn who was breached | 5 dclass + 2 guards: 1 shot vig
Use: n1 5 dclass + 2 guards
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I expect you to go back and look at the posts around your post and try to remember what you were thinking at the time.
What made you want to sheep this read?In post 726, T3 wrote:ykw I'll sheep dwlee's koba read
In post 786, T3 wrote:Enchant scum
What made you say this?
On the contrary -> why did you shift to this read later on?In post 836, T3 wrote:Enchant is town I think.
What led you to this possible conclusion?In post 837, T3 wrote:Maybe the breach is a factional vote steal?
Either way it’s probably melo so we should claim.
Why did you think it was +town?In post 858, T3 wrote:i think enchant being breached is +town
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Cakez‘a flavor sounds like scum flavor and a scum role to be used for pocketingIn post 927, Cephrir wrote:i'm a 1-shot redirector. that's it. i sat on it as long as humanly possible because the fewer scum there are, the better my chances of hitting the kill.
last night i redirected enchant to himself. so if enchant is scum and has some role that prevents him from being killed in some way, it's theoretically possible i could have caused the missing kill, but it's not super likely.
You know the drill - Why was cakez's flavor scum flavor to you? What led you to wanting to vote cakez here?In post 946, T3 wrote:Okay now I really want to vote cakez
This one is going to be more of a long answer question - I'd like all of these reads to have sources linked to them - and more than just the short explainations here.In post 1010, T3 wrote:T3
SirCakez - said some towny feeling stuff?
Cephrir - scum by poe
Enchant - tempted to clear just for being breached
SCP 999 - town, i trust dwlee's read on scp regardless of alignment
Dwlee99 - scum by poe
this is where i'm at
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uhhhhIn post 1040, SCP 999 wrote:dwlee would you mind going for cephrir here first - I have the gut feeling enchant is town and would like to actually force scum to kill and i think cephrir slot is scum from all angles here
now i'm paranoid that koba/enchant are scum
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i think you and dwlee are town.In post 1222, SCP 999 wrote:T3, pushing me wont work. Just letting you know that right now.
You will need to make a case against dwlee(difficult, but if you find a good case I will hear it out.) or cakez.
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not the exact questions i had last but close enough plus im about to start drinking so yeet
gonna do the same for dwlee + cakez when i find the WIM.
not going to push for a vote until all 3 have answered progression questions
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I still need to review your ISO and see what questions I have.
Everyone here has reasons to be town - and I need to dissect who is faking.
There's no easy "lack of depth" option for me except for t3 - but also neither of the other 2 options have shown deep depth in solving/analysis so its difficult. dwlee is close but not quite there.- SCP 999
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are u in mass againIn post 1358, Dwlee99 wrote:
I don't plan on letting you decide by yourself, I thought I've made that much clear. I am realizing I'm not going to be spending much time on mafia this break based on my first day home so I can help but like, also not going to be glued to my phone while I'm seeing my partner for the first time in 2 months. We do have time on the deadline so I'm not too worried about it thoughIn post 1356, SCP 999 wrote:@dwlee I'd also like you to help solve here.
If you're going to just piggyback me its NAGL - you're also getting examined and questioned so dont think ill preemtively let the game end. - SCP 999
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