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[House]

Wait a minute

If

Zefiend

jailed

Scorpious

N2 but

Scorpious

is Mafia

Then that means either

zefiend

was the NK and the Ascetic protected him or something else stopped mafia NK N2. Ascetic is protected right?

No.
Ascetic stops* everything BUT a bullet.

EBWOP

[House]

The claim is impossible. Period.

[House]

Nobody

[House]

Visited

[House]

Galron

[House]

Up!

[House]

I honestly don't know what to say to this absolutely horrible and mechanically wrong idea of eliminating me at this point.

At least if we lose it won't be my fault.

A Town Tracker that actually visited Galron would have a vote in this post.

greeting knows I'm telling the truth.

[House]

[House]

UNVOTE:

Actually how i can let you die early and not let everyone to throw tomato.

Relax, 2 votes isn't an elimination.

[House]

Hard claim Combined Watcher/Voyeur

Submitted because I wanted to see who visited other players & what action they took on that player.

N2 Target was Galron. Nobody visited him that night. I'll hold my other actions until they're necessary to reveal. Greeting will confirm me as town, for those that didn't figure it out yesterday.

[House]

Hard claim Combined Watcher/Voyeur

Submitted because I wanted to see who visited other players & what action they took on that player.

N2 Target was Galron. Nobody visited him that night. I'll hold my other actions until they're necessary to reveal. Greeting flip* will confirm me as town, for those that didn't figure it out yesterday.

EBWOP

[House]

Hard claim Combined Watcher/Voyeur

Submitted because I wanted to see who visited other players & what action they took on that player.

N2 Target was Galron. Nobody visited him that night. I'll hold my other actions until they're necessary to reveal. Greeting will confirm me as town, for those that didn't figure it out yesterday.

That is not true.

VOTE: House

Nice try, but that vote is a bit late to be believable now.

You already leaked me town.

[House]

The claim is impossible. Period.

Nobody

Visited

Galron

I honestly don't know what to say to this absolutely horrible and mechanically wrong idea of eliminating me at this point.

At least if we lose it won't be my fault.

I honestly don't know what to say to this absolutely horrible and mechanically wrong idea of eliminating me at this point.

At least if we lose it won't be my fault.

A Town Tracker that actually visited Galron would have a vote in this post.

greeting knows I'm telling the truth.

Suuuuure.

[House]

House kinda right, omae wa mo shindeiru, it's very unlikely you surviving.

Atleast i refuse to believe House is dumbassmaf claimed to get your horrible claim out.

I mean, Greeting claimed before I did, so...

[House]

Yeah, I was wondering why you're gamethrowing by trying to eliminate an uncc'd power role,

House

. I guess you're not bad town, just scum, that's all.

Says the supposed Tracker that lied about his n1 action and claimed to Track the jailkeeper that prevented a scum kill which also led to that same scum getting flipped.

[House]

Yeah, I was wondering why you're gamethrowing by trying to eliminate an uncc'd power role,

House

. I guess you're not bad town, just scum, that's all.

Says the supposed Tracker that lied about his n2* action and claimed to Track the jailkeeper that prevented a scum kill which also led to that same scum getting flipped.

EBWOP. Damned mobile keyboard.

[House]

Not to mention, any actual experienced townie knows that a Tracker no result doesn't soft clear anything because Goon.

Greeting admitted as much in the same post, which means he only wanted to buy himself town cred and have the means to toss his precious soft clears back in the lim pool later.

The intent of his claimed results was to give zero actual information to town.

[House]

HOUSE TELL YOUR OTHER PICKS PLEASE

Not yet.

Discretion has served us well thus far.

Time & a place for everything.

[House]

Okay. So why watch me?

I was hoping a null read would visit you.

I knew a protective wouldn't, but you had good equity for investigative, support, & scum pr checks.

[House]

You keep reminding it to self, or you trying to persuade us?

You're not going to convince scum that they're scum.

[House]

It's last post related. There's nothing funny anymore.

It's sad.

Do you think Mastina would pass this claim as teammate?

I have my own theories on third scum.

I'll share during twilight.

[House]

Brag time!

My most recently ended town game, for anyone curious:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88484

Yes, I'm a chaotic shitstorm as town.

Greeting, this serious have tipped you off to kill me early.

I guiltied Firebringer on d2 after a scum flip on d1, and he was their deepwolf.

Scum morale went to shit.

[House]

Brag time!

My most recently ended town game, for anyone curious:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88484

Yes, I'm a chaotic shitstorm as town.

Greeting, this should* have tipped you off to kill me early.

I guiltied Firebringer on d2 after a scum flip on d1, and he was their deepwolf.

Scum morale went to shit.

[House]

Hard claim Combined Watcher/Voyeur

Submitted because I wanted to see who visited other players & what action they took on that player.

N2 Target was Galron. Nobody visited him that night. I'll hold my other actions until they're necessary to reveal. Greeting will confirm me as town, for those that didn't figure it out yesterday.

uh what does

watcher/voyeur

even mechanically look like?

tbh this is maybe the second time ive ever encountered "combined" in a mafia game and the first wasnt even through playing it

i guess you have reasons not to bring up N1 target so

Watcher tells me who visited a player.
Voyeur tells me what kind of action the visiting player took.

When I target a player, I get both results.

[House]

Hard claim Combined Watcher/Voyeur

Submitted because I wanted to see who visited other players & what action they took on that player.

N2 Target was Galron. Nobody visited him that night. I'll hold my other actions until they're necessary to reveal. Greeting will confirm me as town, for those that didn't figure it out yesterday.

uh what does

watcher/voyeur

even mechanically look like?

tbh this is maybe the second time ive ever encountered "combined" in a mafia game and the first wasnt even through playing it

i guess you have reasons not to bring up N1 target so

Watcher tells me who visited a player.
Voyeur tells me what kind of action the visiting player took.

When I target a player, I get both results.

To be clear, the results are NOT matched up to the visitor.

I have to figure that bit out on my own.

[House]

Hard claim Combined Watcher/Voyeur

Submitted because I wanted to see who visited other players & what action they took on that player.

N2 Target was Galron. Nobody visited him that night. I'll hold my other actions until they're necessary to reveal. Greeting will confirm me as town, for those that didn't figure it out yesterday.

uh what does

watcher/voyeur

even mechanically look like?

tbh this is maybe the second time ive ever encountered "combined" in a mafia game and the first wasnt even through playing it

i guess you have reasons not to bring up N1 target so

Watcher tells me who visited a player.
Voyeur tells me what kind of action the visiting player took.

When I target a player, I get both results.

To be clear, the actions* are NOT matched up to the visitor.

I have to figure that bit out on my own.

[House]

I got the idea from a former game I played where I had another combined role. (And I tried to get that role in this one, too)

Compulsive n1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Neighborizer (homebrew Mason).

Titus can confirm. I used the role on her and jammed up her plans.

[House]

I got the idea from a former game I played where I had another combined role. (And I tried to get that role in this one, too)

Compulsive n1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Loyal* Neighborizer (homebrew Mason).

Titus can confirm. I used the role on her and jammed up her plans.

EBWOP

[House]

Next time you fakeclaim a PR, give more thought to the actions you're trying to claim.

[House]

Even if you hadn't outed yourself with the n2 lie, the n3 lie told on itself.

[House]

-vc goes here-

Pagetop thief!

[House]

Whatever you’re trying to do is cute

Not nearly as cute as claiming to track the townie that was most responsible for a scum flip that very night.

[House]

Scum was sweeping town. Zero reason to bus.

Zero reason to track the jailkeeper, OF ALL PEOPLE.

[House]

Message to Cheeky

: Your death was avenged. I knew you were killed for a reason.

Enchant, who is scum with me?

Maybe I'll help you bus my teammates in order to stay alive.

Probably Scorpio.

This is actually really good!

Scorpious scum explains the Cheeky nk. She was all over him on d1 and his reactions were horrible.

VOTE: Scorpious

Choo choo!

[House]

There existed a possible scenario in which both ɀefiend and Scorpious were scum and the mafia simply didn't kill anyone.

Yes you did, and it's patently bullshit.

Scum don't go from sweeping town to throwing each other under the bus.

[House]

Trying to shade flipped town that caught scum.

That's the stench of desperation.

[House]

Yeah Enchant's scum.

What about this latest quick hammer indicated that?

He indicated extreme reluctance and flipped on a dime based on his supposed scumread (me).

Enchant was scumreading Scorpious all day though.

Read their ISO.

[House]

I got the idea from a former game I played where I had another combined role. (And I tried to get that role in this one, too)

Compulsive n1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Neighborizer (homebrew Mason).

Titus can confirm. I used the role on her and jammed up her plans.

I loved that. You're a wacky dude.

You sure didn't during the game!

[House]

Oops, misremembered my role.

N1 Combined FriendlyNeighbor Neighborizer Cop

[House]

I got the idea from a former game I played where I had another combined role. (And I tried to get that role in this one, too)

Compulsive n1 Combined Friendly Neighbor/Neighborizer (homebrew Mason).

Titus can confirm. I used the role on her and jammed up her plans.

I loved that. You're a wacky dude.

You sure didn't during the game!

I hate when my plans get sabotaged but I still enjoy the drama.

We eliminate Greeting today and then Enchant tomorrow for the win. Sounds good?

VOTE: Greeting

Hold that thought until you read my Twilight post, please.

[House]

Remind what stopping me... Expect for Twilight House post.

You're already voting the wagon.

That's what.

[House]

House

there's 2 answers for a third scum that I will disapprove of, can you name 'em?

Most likely not.

[House]

dont break my heart

housey

It's just how I am.

Once I settle on a read, I either sheep them or ignore their reads.

Not much of a middle ground.

[House]

Remind what stopping me... Expect for Twilight House post.

You're already voting the wagon.

That's what.

I unvoted, rememba?

Oh, true.

How about this?

UNVOTE:

Now, you get on the wagon, and I'll hammer with my thoughts on third scum.

That way, I can't be locked out while composing my post.

[House]

Please vote, Enchant.

My post is copied to my clipboard.

[House]

My theory is that Greeting is trying to tie Galron together with Enchant with his "soft clears", then planned to reverse the "clears" & push Enchant who has been getting a lot of shade this game.

I think you lose out here, Greeting.

VOTE: Greeting

This vote sounds like an apologetic bus.

@Titus: Enchant pounced on Greeting with an amazing question I hadn't thought of before I hard revealed anything damning & wound up using against him myself.

https://c.tenor.com/LVqJ74nuZyYAAAAC/mc ... r-time.gif
VOTE: Greeting

[House]

My theory is that Greeting is trying to tie Galron together with Enchant with his "soft clears", then planned to reverse the "clears" & push Enchant who has been getting a lot of shade this game.

I think you lose out here, Greeting.

VOTE: Greeting

This vote sounds like an apologetic bus.

@Titus: Enchant pounced on Greeting with an amazing question I hadn't thought of before I hard revealed anything damning & wound up using against him myself.


VOTE: Greeting

Dammit, lol

[House]

By the way, I renounce my claim.

Guess I should mention that.

[House]

:/ you're playing with my feelings house

Embrace the chaos.

[House]

Okay

How you insert gifs btw, i tried they always break.

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No *

Thanks

By the way, I renounce my claim.

Guess I should mention that.

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YouTube code is different. You just use the bit after the =

[House]

Quote this post.

[House]

Why did you feel so strongly to counter

Greeting

then? Was it because they didn't track you?

They tracked the jailkeeper that literally caught scum, when scum was sweeping town and there was no reason in the world to think it was a bus.

[House]

holy shit my mind didnt connect the fact that

zefiend

could've just blocked

scorp

who had the shot ooooo

Scorp was never the nk choice. He HAD to be the shooter.

[House]

May I present to you the wall of shame:

I don't get top billing?

[House]

holy shit my mind didnt connect the fact that

zefiend

could've just blocked

scorp

who had the shot ooooo

Scorp was never the nk choice. He HAD to be the shooter.

In that case, I'm good saying this: your third scum did not contain the 2 names I'd have blocked.

I mean, he literally flipped scum, so...

[House]

Up!

[House]

I decided it's time to claim but i am actual Loyal 99-Shot Vig, i just shot in Scorpious all nights, third one included.

I'm not going to be around to protect you forever.

[House]

house

has there been a game with you where i have not WIFOM'd my slot to hell and back?

Sorry. I control the gates of Hell.

[House]

May I present to you the wall of shame:

I don't get top billing?

Although the order of avis was random,

Enchant

deserves it, they're actually town who miselimmed an uncc'd town PR and rallied for it. You're scum, you were just doing your job.

[House]

BWHAHAHAHAHA

Scum gloats feel so good don't they?

I would offer a wager, but something something board rules something.

[House]

BWHAHAHAHAHA

Scum gloats feel so good don't they?

I would offer a wager, but something something board rules something.

What would your wager be if you could offer it?

Do you need access to my hat closet?

Also, I'll DM you my trial schedule soon.

Were a wager on the table, I'd have proposed the loser buy a hat cake for the winner.

A bit of a twist.

[House]

Wow.

Did not see that coming.

[House]

Still at work, I'll be back in a couple/few hours.

[House]

Enchant is so obviously town here what are you talking about

I hope you have an actual reason for thinking that.

1977 is superficial as hell and nothing more than a continuation of their game long scumread of me.

[House]

Anywho... apologies to greeting and all, but anyone who tracks a claimed, uncc'ed jailkeeper that prevented a night kill & caused a scum flip the same day is GONNA reek of scum, because there is no town motivation in tracking mechanically cleared town.

The flip sucked, but frankly I have

[House]

Wow.

Did not see that coming.

Why not? Scum have to shoot in the townblock sometime.

No, the kill didn't surprise me.

Masons AND a JK being in the game did, though.

[House]

The kill being the replacement is actually a very me!scum move, because I hate when fresh perspectives fuck with my well-crafted narrative.

I wonder who else shares that philosophy.

[House]

VOTE: No Lim

(Not suggesting this should go through right away)

[House]

Town mastina would recognize that we're in MELo & not be trying to push an elongation, here.

[House]

Town mastina would recognize that we're in MELo & not be trying to push an elimination, here.

[House]

Also, the game page in 1984 is plain laughable.

mastina has seen these antics from me. This is all old hat.

[House]

Also, the fake* outrage* in 1984 is plain laughable.

mastina has seen these antics from me. This is all old hat.

[House]

mastina's fake outrage is cute.

[House]

She's making some seriously lv0 posts whining about stuff I'm notorious for doing as if I've never played on this site before.

I'm amused.

[House]

For the record, idc if I'm limmed over the gambit.

I knew the risks. I'd do it again. Tracking a jailkeeper that killed scum IS. NOT. TOWN.

[House]

Titus if we no lim today, you probably die tonight.

[House]

Titus if we no lim today, you probably die tonight.

Why though? Enchant suspects me.

Do you think mastina is scum?

You're the primary obstacle to my lim.

You gone = greased wheels on this runaway train.

mastina is making some first year rookie posts. Is mastina a rookie?

[House]

greased wheels on this runaway train.

Just realized how amazingly apt that metaphor is, lol.

[House]

and so we kill house without getting to mastina, the deep wolf.

It's almost like you

know

I'm gonna flip green.

[House]

Galron/mastina?

That'd be an interesting world.

[House]

Enchant is so lv0 they're willing to speedlim me

mastina will fuel the fire even though she's experienced enough to know better.

Galron will hammer.

That's how tomorrow plays out if we no lim today.

[House]

Fuck.

mastina isn't scum.

[House]

Galron/Dwlee?

[House]

The scum killed the wrong mason if they thought that wasn't going to be enforced, since both Taly

and Andante

weren't inclined to actually vote you, but I am.

mastina is the other Mason.

[House]

She couldn't know andante's opinion on me unless she was in the Mason chat, as andante died before posting in the game thread.

[House]

Since mastina wants to shit on me, consider this me returning the favor.

[House]

You're literally game throwing.

[House]

You don't need to worry about me in the future, madtina.

I'm staying the fuck away from any playerlist you're in from now on.

[House]

Like, I'd expect this bullshit from anyone else in the game except Titus & you.

The disappointment is so thick I can taste it.

[House]

Galron is openwolfing, but all you care about is spanking me, as if that's going to solve anything.

glhf

[House]

Titus if we no lim today, you probably die tonight.

I'm standing by this

No need to kill the Mason when the Mason is scum MVP.

[House]

Lol... look at how Galron & Dwlee have both avoided "the House situation".

[House]

Classic scum sitting back & watching town implode.

[House]

And this is how I benefit via chaos.

What you do, well, that's your fucking problem.

[House]

Enchant opened the day screaming for my blood.

Not scum.

Scum!Enchant would see what way the wind was blowing first.

Titus is town. Said so since p1. I'll stand by it to my death.

mastina is a Mason.

Game is solved. Too bad town is going to let dumb shit get in the way of victory.

[House]

Also of note, Enchant, Titus, and mastina have not been hesitant about injecting with me throughout the game.

Dwlee & Galron have both stayed the fuck away from me, most likely because Dwlee warned Galron that I'm a live grenade.

[House]

Also of note, Enchant, Titus, and mastina have not been hesitant about interacting* with me throughout the game.

Dwlee & Galron have both stayed the fuck away from me, most likely because Dwlee warned Galron that I'm a live grenade.

EBWOP

[House]

And there's it is.

The solve on a silver platter.

You're welcome.

[House]

and so we kill house without getting to mastina, the deep wolf.

"without getting to mastina" = BECAUSE THE GAME WILL BE OVER

Galron literally admitted I was town, here.

[House]

VOTE: Galron

Game is solved. I might as well spend what little time I have left in it voting scum.

[House]

Bonus

: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13218116

I claim a guilty on Firebringer on d2, then revoke the guilty & PR claim after the wagon is hammered.

The guilty was real... but I obviously lied when I revoked the PR claim & guilty result.

Lim all liars is level 0 bullshit. Killing me won't change my mind about that. It says more about anyone that leans on that excuse for killing someone that pinched their sphincter than it does the liar.

[House]

So I claim no responsibility for what you did

Guess we should lim you, then, because you're lying right here.

You're not stupid enough to actually believe your own argument. Girl, I HAVE SEEN YOU LIE IN GAMES!

I played to my win condition. I achieved my mission.

[House]

Also?

It says I hold principles that YOU violated.

Fuck your principles, tbh.

Not just yours. Anybody else's.

I live by

mine

.

[House]

And as I said, I don't particularly care if I get killed over it.

I got my answer. Not my problem if y'all want to gamethrow.

Solving the puzzle is what matters. That's... kinda the entire point.

@Titus: you can't ever accuse me of playing to my ego when you compare what I do to these 2.

[House]

i made these mistakes too, but i actually have backup plan when i doing this. Or really good reason. You didn't have both.

Wrong.

I solved the game.

Which you'd know if you actually fucking read my posts.

[House]

You saying by this kill you playing on your wincon.

It's only truth if you are NOT town.

What language are you even talking?

The words look like English, but they make no sense.

[House]

and so we kill house without getting to mastina, the deep wolf.

"without getting to mastina" = BECAUSE THE GAME WILL BE OVER

Galron literally admitted I was town, here.

Galron literally admitted I'm town.

Do you have no reading comprehension, whatsoever??

Even mastina knows better than to try to call me scum at this point. She just want to play some lv0 newbie queue bullshit to spank me for misbehaving.

Fuck that.

[House]

Tell me this, Enchant...

If I'm scum with Scorpious, why do I call shenanigans on his claim and refuse to hop off when everybody else starts leaving the wagon?

Any actual analysis of the game shows I'm not scum. You're just bitching because I don't play the stereotypical towny.

[House]

Why did you try to watch house?

Because all I know about this guy is that he posts.. a lot..

I can’t figure him out in arguing with him and I wanted to know if anyone else was suspicious of him.

Felt that would help, but to no avail.

Worst excuse ever.

I don't doubt that you're a JoaT, but I do doubt vig is part of it, and I do doubt you're town.

All this shit you're claiming doesn't add up at all.

My vote stays.

[House]

Why did you try to watch house?

Because all I know about this guy is that he posts.. a lot..

I can’t figure him out in arguing with him and I wanted to know if anyone else was suspicious of him.

Felt that would help, but to no avail.

Worst excuse ever.

I don't doubt that you're a JoaT, but I do doubt vig is part of it, and I do doubt you're town.

All this shit you're claiming doesn't add up at all.

My vote stays.

I called shenanigans on Scorpious because his claimed action made no sense.

He flipped scum.

I called shenanigans on Greeting because his claimed action made no sense. I was wrong.

Mt actions have been objectively town-motivated. Yeah. A Tracker died over it. That sucks

But. I caught scum.

[House]

@House, if you're town, Enchant's scum.

Solving the game is half the battle. The other half is persuasion. Solving the game does no good if you can't actually persuade anyone.

That's your opinion.

I'm not the extrovert you are.

Come on. You know this.

[House]

Enchant opened the day screaming for my blood.

Not scum.

Scum!Enchant would see what way the wind was blowing first.

Titus is town. Said so since p1. I'll stand by it to my death.

mastina is a Mason.

Game is solved. Too bad town is going to let dumb shit get in the way of victory.

Enchant opened the day screaming for my blood.

Not scum.

Scum!Enchant would see what way the wind was blowing first.

Titus is town. Said so since p1. I'll stand by it to my death.

mastina is a Mason.

Game is solved. Too bad town is going to let dumb shit get in the way of victory.

Also of note, Enchant, Titus, and mastina have not been hesitant about injecting with me throughout the game.

Dwlee & Galron have both stayed the fuck away from me, most likely because Dwlee warned Galron that I'm a live grenade.

@Titus

[House]

Tell me this, Enchant...

If I'm scum with Scorpious, why do I call shenanigans on his claim and refuse to hop off when everybody else starts leaving the wagon?

Any actual analysis of the game shows I'm not scum. You're just bitching because I don't play the stereotypical towny.

No chance.

Gambits are fine. They are punished for reason. They also called Gambits for reason. High Risk, High Reward. You had High Risk, Low Reward even before flip so i don't see you doing this as town, unless you are idiot. You are not idiot.

From my perspective you played well, as scum.
Getting this elim was good.

If i let you get away with this, i will be idiot.
I am not Idiot.

Go back to the newbie queue.

Seriously

[House]

What do you really expect me to do House?

Enchant's scum.
Mastina's got a policy vote for you. Unless she's scum too, this problem persists until game tomorrow.

mastina is a Mason.

I already pointed this out.

It's like you're not even reading my posts, Titus.

[House]

Tell me this, Enchant...

If I'm scum with Scorpious, why do I call shenanigans on his claim and refuse to hop off when everybody else starts leaving the wagon?

Any actual analysis of the game shows I'm not scum. You're just bitching because I don't play the stereotypical towny.

No chance.

Gambits are fine. They are punished for reason. They also called Gambits for reason. High Risk, High Reward. You had High Risk, Low Reward even before flip so i don't see you doing this as town, unless you are idiot. You are not idiot.

From my perspective you played well, as scum.
Getting this elim was good.

If i let you get away with this, i will be idiot.
I am not Idiot.

Go back to the newbie queue.

Seriously

Already played 5 times.
Still newbie. But they won't allow me to apply as newbie.

So go as an SE.

That's what that category is for.

[House]

Tell me this, Enchant...

If I'm scum with Scorpious, why do I call shenanigans on his claim and refuse to hop off when everybody else starts leaving the wagon?

Any actual analysis of the game shows I'm not scum. You're just bitching because I don't play the stereotypical towny.

No chance.

Gambits are fine. They are punished for reason. They also called Gambits for reason. High Risk, High Reward. You had High Risk, Low Reward even before flip so i don't see you doing this as town, unless you are idiot. You are not idiot.

From my perspective you played well, as scum.
Getting this elim was good.

If i let you get away with this, i will be idiot.
I am not Idiot.

Go back to the newbie queue.

Seriously

How is this helping you if you think it's Galron Dwlee?

Argue post game. Try and persuade me to vote Galron.

Read.
My.
Posts.

[House]

What do you really expect me to do House?

Enchant's scum.
Mastina's got a policy vote for you. Unless she's scum too, this problem persists until game tomorrow.

mastina is a Mason.

I already pointed this out.

It's like you're not even reading my posts, Titus.

I read your posts.

If you can't see how Galron is scum between 2006-2030, I give up.

Just gotta me and give scum the win.

I have what I came for. I'm not going to let drama stress me out anymore.

[House]

What do you really expect me to do House?

Enchant's scum.
Mastina's got a policy vote for you. Unless she's scum too, this problem persists until game tomorrow.

mastina is a Mason.

I already pointed this out.

It's like you're not even reading my posts, Titus.

I read your posts.

If you can't see how Galron is scum between 2006-2030, I give up.

Just vote* me and give scum the win.

I have what I came for. I'm not going to let drama stress me out anymore.

EBWOP

[House]

I do think Galron is scum. I'm asking you to persuade me you can talk to mastina. Otherwise, even if we flip Galron, what's the point?

I have a theory, but I can't really speak on that right now for reasons that I will be happy to explain postgame.

[House]

Me talking to mastina isn't the issue.

I've been trying.

She's the one not talking to me.

My theory has to do with why that is.

[House]

I do think Galron is scum. I'm asking you to persuade me you can talk to mastina. Otherwise, even if we flip Galron, what's the point?

Titus, Enchant is town.

I will die on this hill.

Yes. I know I usually OMGUS the shit out of people that scumread me as town... but ENCHANT IS TOWN.

Galron same Dwlee have both been very circumspect about me this entire game. They have been dodging my chaos at every turn.

They both evaded addressing my fake guilty at start of day.

They're sitting back and waiting for victory to be spoonfed to them.

It's painfully obvious.

[House]

I do think Galron is scum. I'm asking you to persuade me you can talk to mastina. Otherwise, even if we flip Galron, what's the point?

Titus, Enchant is town.

I will die on this hill.

Yes. I know I usually OMGUS the shit out of people that scumread me as town... but ENCHANT IS TOWN.

Galron and* Dwlee have both been very circumspect about me this entire game. They have been dodging my chaos at every turn.

They both evaded addressing my fake guilty at start of day.

They're sitting back and waiting for victory to be spoonfed to them.

It's painfully obvious.

EBWOP

[House]

Why you get Scorpious and Greeting elims as same thing?

I don't remember you claiming Guilty result on Scorpious to get him killed.

I refused to unvote him because his claim of tracking me made no sense.

Greeting's claim of jailing mechanically cleared town made no sense, and that is what motivated me to call for his blood too.

[House]

Why you get Scorpious and Greeting elims as same thing?

I don't remember you claiming Guilty result on Scorpious to get him killed.

I refused to unvote him because his claim of tracking me made no sense.

Greeting's claim of jailing mechanically cleared town made no sense, and that is what motivated me to call for his blood too.

Not just mechanically cleared town, but mechanically cleared town PR.

[House]

Why you get Scorpious and Greeting elims as same thing?

I don't remember you claiming Guilty result on Scorpious to get him killed.

I refused to unvote him because his claim of tracking me made no sense.

Greeting's claim of jailing mechanically cleared town made no sense, and that is what motivated me to call for his blood too.

Greeting was not Jailkeeper.
Scorpious was not Tracker.

Scorpious claimed to be a JoaT that Tracked me "to see if anyone else suspected me".

Like I said. No sense.

Sorry. I've forgotten what Greeting did. I'll have to read back on yesterday. I know I was quite vocal about my reasons.

[House]

Oh yeah, Getting claimed to Track the mechanically cleared Jailkeeper.

That serves no town purpose.

If the Jailkeeper stopped another kill, they could out it themselves. If they didn't, the jailkeeper would have been the target anyway. Mechanically. Cleared.

[House]

Scorpious "Watched" you not tracked.

Well that's a fortunate misunderstanding.

(I was reading back to quote the post.)

[House]

Greeting tracked Galron, me and ... Jailkeeper.

zefiend... which will makes no sense.

Watching him would have absolutely made sense. But not Tracking him.

[House]

Greeting tracked Galron, me and ... Jailkeeper.

zefiend... which still* makes no sense.

Watching him would have absolutely made sense. But not Tracking him.

[House]

I know. I kinda first to call this out.

Yes you were, which I also told Titus when I was explaining why you were town.

[House]

I'm not trying to take credit for your work.

[House]

I meant there's no sense to remind why claim was bad.

True, but it doesn't hurt to remind the others.

[House]

Enchant is so obviously town here what are you talking about

I hope you have an actual reason for thinking that.

1977 is superficial as hell and nothing more than a continuation of their game long scumread of me.

How did you go from this to saying that Enchant was for sure town for this post?

I suggest you file this away for future reference, because I'm not generally a fan of discussing my problems:

I have trouble maintaining concentration & remembering shit. As long as I'm focused on an activity, I'm (usually) okay - but not always... I found myself looking for my glasses 30 seconds after I put them on while preparing to leave earlier today.

So, when I get back to a game after a night period ends, it takes me a bit of time to remember what the fuck is going on in it.

[House]

Like, I DO kneejerk jump to "why the fuck is this scum trying to get me limmed" as a reaction to shade/pushes, then I have to compare it to their play overall.

[House]

That said, in my experience, it's common for one player of the scum team to shade me in games because it winds me up and I create noise, and ensuing 1v1s tend to be written off as tvt...

... but in this particular case I expect it to actually

be

tvt

[House]

Up!

[House]

Is a House and Titus team possible? If not then Galron is scum imo

Sure.

I tied myself to my buddy by calling her town on page 1 and refusing to ever reconsider that read.

Because that would never raise any eyebrows.

[House]

and so we kill house without getting to mastina, the deep wolf.

"without getting to mastina" = BECAUSE THE GAME WILL BE OVER

Galron literally admitted I was town, here.

Is a House and Titus team possible? If not then Galron is scum imo

and so we kill house without getting to mastina, the deep wolf.

"without getting to mastina" = BECAUSE THE GAME WILL BE OVER

Galron literally admitted I was town, here.

I've copypastad this so much it's got a special pin in my clipboard.

Why the fuck are people actively ignoring it??

[House]

If we lim Galron today, Dwlee is scum if I die tonight because killing me is his only shot at winning the game with Galron's TMI clearing me because I'm his best shot at the game winning mislim which evaporates with Galron's flip.

With my death, he can attempt to railroad Enchant, the other townie that everybody is dying to kill.

[House]

He'd never kill mastina despite her being a Mason because she's actively gamethrowing (something something rule 10 something).

[House]

No lim today = death of the voice of reason.

Titus, if you had joined the chorus of "zomg kill House" at the start of day, the game would already be over.

[House]

If we lim Galron today, Dwlee is scum if I die tonight because killing me is his only shot at winning the game with Galron's

TMI clearing me because I'm his best shot at the game winning mislim which evaporates with Galron's flip.

With my death, he can attempt to railroad Enchant, the other townie that everybody is dying to kill.

Is Galron red or green in this scenario? You seem to take the result for granted.

Bolded is only possible with a Mason partner or scum flip.

Since we're not Masons...

[House]

No lim today = death of the voice of reason.

Titus, if you had joined the chorus of "zomg kill House" at the start of day, the game would already be over.

Trueish. With mastina being conftown, 99% of teams shoot her in a no lim scenario.

99% of teams don't have that confirmed town breaking site rules to help them win.

[House]

Speculative percentage... but I'm fairly confident.

[House]

Policy eliminations aren't breaking site rules.

Actively playing against wincon is.

mastina can't even pretend to scumread me. She's just butthurt and wants to punish me.

[House]

mastina, the correct way to punish me for not liking my play is to refuse to play future games with me.

Do that. I've already made that decision to avoid you in the future, so it can be mutual.

Stop throwing the game.

[House]

Policy eliminations aren't breaking site rules.

Actively playing against wincon is.

mastina can't even pretend to scumread me. She's just butthurt and wants to punish me.

If it was anyone but you, I'd join mastina.

Shenannies.

I doubt you'd be voting RC or Firebringer here, off the top of my head.

[House]

Policy eliminations aren't breaking site rules.

Actively playing against wincon is.

mastina can't even pretend to scumread me. She's just butthurt and wants to punish me.

If it was anyone but you, I'd join mastina.

What so special in house explain damn.

You townreading House more than Mastina.

We've known each other for years.

[House]

Policy eliminations aren't breaking site rules.

Actively playing against wincon is.

mastina can't even pretend to scumread me. She's just butthurt and wants to punish me.

If it was anyone but you, I'd join mastina.

What so special in house explain damn.

You townreading House more than Mastina.

Mastina's lock town.

House does a fair amount of gambiting. That's his nature. He likes to bounce his gambits off me and trusts me to have his back.

Only as town.

I don't do it as scum because I'm afraid you'll nail me in one of your paranoia attacks.

[House]

If we lim Galron today, Dwlee is scum if I die tonight because killing me is his only shot at winning the game with Galron's TMI clearing me because I'm his best shot at the game winning mislim which evaporates with Galron's flip.

I think you need to explain this sentence.

Your red flip proves the TMI I've been driving in everyone's faces and I become just as conftown as Mastina.

Since I absolutely refuse to ever vote Enchant, Dwlee has to kill me to keep Enchant in lim range.

[House]

Galron's statement about my death ending the game could have come from town if he had claimed to have been townreading me when he said it, which I've been waiting for him to say in defense of that post.

But he never did, so... scumslip confirmed, IMHO

[House]

I am strong believer of phylosophy that you can't towncase self. Atleast i don't understand why you even think i am mafia.

Outside of mech clears, I agree with this.

Since mechanical clear isn't relevant here...

[House]

Galron/Enchant, how certain are you House is scum?

I know shit.
House is good enough to make me question, but i still don't see reason to not vote him.

I am stuck because my reads must be wrong to win I think.

Don't make me impose an embargo.

You may have all the guns here, but an army that can't eat starves to death.

[House]

I am strong believer of phylosophy that you can't towncase self. Atleast i don't understand why you even think i am mafia.

Fair.

If you're town, do we have to solve House v Galron today?

We need to make move today. Waiting night to let mason die is not smart decision on my opinion.

I also think Dwlee99 should't be devoid of attention. And you.
Two of you is mafs as you remember.

I'm more sure that Titus is town than I am that you are town.

And I am never voting you out this game.

Galron's flip corners Dwlee in as the last scum in my PoE.

Scum doesn't PoE themselves into a corner.

[House]

Dwlee99 is town bc they hard pushed Scorpious prejailing.

It's almost like you've never heard of distancing.

Dwlee does that. I've been scum with him.

[House]

Yes, since my return.

[House]

Dwlee99 is town bc they hard pushed Scorpious prejailing.

It's almost like you've never heard of distancing.

Dwlee does that. I've been scum with him.

I've taught Dwlee. They're not scum. I'm never voting them.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12907192

Dwlee bussing me.

You were even in the game.

C'mon.

[House]

Dwlee99 is town bc they hard pushed Scorpious prejailing.

It's almost like you've never heard of distancing.

Dwlee does that. I've been scum with him.

I've taught Dwlee. They're not scum. I'm never voting them.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12907192

Dwlee bussing me.

You were even in the game.

C'mon.

You only voted Dwlee because of a hard guilty in that game.

[House]

You only voted Dwlee because of a hard guilty in that game.

[House]

If Dwlee's main act this game was bussing then I feel that's town. Not voting them.

That's why you'll be endgamed.

[House]

Unless team is Titus+Dwlee99, Galron voting House should result in no quickhammer.

Then yeah, we can lock in solving this pair.

I think we should force Galron to vote and look. Atleast i can't comprehend why he didn't do that already.

Remember when I said you'd wait to see which way the wind blew before voting me as scum?

Those were good times.

[House]

My point being, that's why Galron hasn't voted me.

[House]

The hesitance to vote down by Galron & Dwlee = waiting to pounce on my mislim wagon.

[House]

The hesitance to vote shown" by Galron & Dwlee = waiting to pounce on my mislim wagon.

EBWOP

[House]

UNVOTE: House

Brb sick of refreshing page.
I need tea.

Titus, when mastina and Enchant we're both voting me, do you really think Enchant concerns themselves with unvoting me because they won't be around to speak refresh, as scum?

Enchant was fishing for a third vote to hop on to scumhunt their motives.

[House]

UNVOTE: House

Brb sick of refreshing page.
I need tea.

Titus, when mastina and Enchant were* both voting me, do you really think Enchant concerns themselves with unvoting me because they won't be around to spam* refresh, as scum?

Enchant was fishing for a third vote to hop on to scumhunt their motives.

EBWOP

[House]

Enchant's play just screams town.

I don't see why it's not obvious to others.

[House]

Stuff like this registers on a subconscious level long before I can put words to it.

[House]

Unless team is Titus+Dwlee99, Galron voting House should result in no quickhammer.

Then yeah, we can lock in solving this pair.

I think we should force Galron to vote and look. Atleast i can't comprehend why he didn't do that already.

I'm 100% on board with this, for the record.

[House]

Mastina probably will still don't care though. I can't really blame her for that.

Considering she can't even pretend to think I'm scum, I can.

Site rules trump theory.

[House]

I have ZERO tolerance for town claiming guilties on town. NONE.

Considering you're a Mason, you're literally gamethrowing, which is against rule 10 of the site rules.

LaL is a fine policy to push on D1, D2, up to MeLo-1, but in MeLo, you're in direct violation of site rules doing this.

You need to unvote. You do not want me to die with your vote on my wagon.

[House]

I have ZERO tolerance for town claiming guilties on town. NONE.

Considering you're a Mason, you're literally gamethrowing, which is against rule 10 of the site rules.

LaL is a fine policy to push on D1, D2, up to MeLo+1*, but in MeLo, you're in direct violation of site rules doing this.

You need to unvote. You do not want me to die with your vote on my wagon.

EBWOP

[House]

No.

I think Mastina should keep vote.

If Mastina+Galron voting you, it confirms one of you is mafia, because if you are mafia, no one quickhammer you, and if you are town, but Galron mafia, then there's not enough votepower.
Otherwise we not making anything.

You still think I can be scum.

It would not be against site rules for you to take her place when she unvotes.

Same end is achieved. It would take Dwlee & Titus to hammer me.

[House]

Please refrain from further discussing whether or not something is a rules break in the game thread. If you have any concerns please pm me instead.

Oops, understood.

Apologies.

[House]

Hey Titus,

Just out of curiosity... what kind of cake do you like?

No reason for asking, or anything. Just... curious.

[House]

So eliminating the most obvtown nonconftown player who was a town investigative power role was playing to your wincon?

Finding scum was playing to my wincon, and gambits are a long and storied part of my meta to that end

I have never once in my history ever fakeclaimed a guilty as scum. It's suicide.

[House]

And I don't buy your ass-covering bullshit.

You know I'm fucking town. This is straight trash play in MeLi and you damned well either know it or need a fucking lesson of your own.

[House]

And I don't buy your ass-covering bullshit.

You know I'm fucking town. This is straight trash play in MeLo* and you damned well either know it or need a fucking lesson of your own.

EBWOP

[House]

You killed the most obvtown player in the game who wasn't conftown.
You killed a town PR.
You killed an investigative.
You killed a role that with another scum elimination would've been elevated to COP levels, which would've forced the scum to nightkill them.
You killed a self-resolving slot.
You denied the town the chance to massclaim outside of mylo.
You denied me a chance to post all of yesterday.
You denied the town/scum a chance to spew themselves yesterday. For instance, after I defended Scorpious, there was at least a reasonable chance that I would be pushed yesterday since my masonbuddy was still alive. We could have garnered information from that. But you denied us that.
You caused my masonbuddy to be dead because of rushing through yesterday and giving the scum a free nightkill.

All readings to never play another game with me again, not throw the game over.

[House]

You killed the most obvtown player in the game who wasn't conftown.
You killed a town PR.
You killed an investigative.
You killed a role that with another scum elimination would've been elevated to COP levels, which would've forced the scum to nightkill them.
You killed a self-resolving slot.
You denied the town the chance to massclaim outside of mylo.
You denied me a chance to post all of yesterday.
You denied the town/scum a chance to spew themselves yesterday. For instance, after I defended Scorpious, there was at least a reasonable chance that I would be pushed yesterday since my masonbuddy was still alive. We could have garnered information from that. But you denied us that.
You caused my masonbuddy to be dead because of rushing through yesterday and giving the scum a free nightkill.

All reasons* to never play another game with me again, not throw the game over.

EBWOP

[House]

Hey Titus,

Just out of curiosity... what kind of cake do you like?

No reason for asking, or anything. Just... curious.

Chocolate.

Devil's Food? German?

[House]

You're suggesting I will vote you and wind up eating it right?

Yes. Anything but white.

No.

I'm suggesting you may well be right after all.

[House]

If Enchant was town, they'd have been fine with replacing mastina on the wagon.

Calling for Galron & Enchant to vote me gives them opportunity to hammer.

[House]

If Enchant was town, they'd have been fine with replacing mastina on the wagon.

Calling for Galron & Dwlee* to vote me gives them opportunity to hammer.

[House]

You're trying to sell the narrative that I was scumreading you prior to today. But my scumread on you is brand new to today.

Wrong.

I was pointing out that

you couldn't even pretend

to scumread me.

You're only doing so now to save your ass.

Dwlee was a nullread to me until I PoE'd him, which I now think Titus was right about him on since Enchant didn't want to let literally confirmed town be the off-wagon player in their hammer test.

[House]

Ugh I feel this game is in my hands. I don't want the responsibility. I just want a choice made soon so night can fall mostly when I'm in trial. #selfish

Not sure how to play around that.

I'm saying it's most likely Galron/Enchant.

[House]

Up!

[House]

Ugh I feel this game is in my hands. I don't want the responsibility. I just want a choice made soon so night can fall mostly when I'm in trial. #selfish

Not sure how to play around that.

I'm saying it's most likely Galron/Enchant.

Who

You heard me.

Go ahead and put your vote on me.

[House]

You dare?

You overestimate how much importance I put on winning.

I only care about the solve.

[House]

Solve is winning.

Also i really don't understand why i suddenly turned maf for you.

I explained why.

You balked at taking mastina's place on the wagon.

So, you can join her on it.

[House]

Oh noez, House has no self-preservation & now Enchant is being cornered by their own hammer test!

Oh noez!

[House]

I literally faked a guilty result to kill a scumread.

Never assume I have a sense of self-preservation as town if you're scum.

It will bite you in the ass.

[House]

Imagine giving pissed off mastina ability to decide executions with her vote. Like i replace her, Galron vote, then Mastina. Three votes on you. If you are town, you are as well dead. I sleep when you active, only reason i here is insomnia, so I can't unvote.

I am not that stupid lold.

Also I don't need opportunity to hammer.

If you really challenge me, go vote me.

6 players takes 4 to lim.

[House]

Then vote me.

Right after Galron.

I want that sweet, sweet TMI clear.

[House]

Also I don't need opportunity to hammer.

No reason for you not to be on my wagon, then.

[House]

You can count?

Me
Galron
Mastina

I am town. Mastina too.
Idk about Galron, but if maf he have teammate who wi hammer you if you are town.

It's three. Mastina would just want you dead or vote on first provocation. I am more calm with gambit shit or what was that.

6 players takes 4 to lim

Me
You
Titus
Dwlee
Galron
mastina

That's six.

You can count?

[House]

Official Votecount 5.1

Galron (1): House

[E-3]

House (1): mastina

[E-3]

Not Voting (4): Galron, Dwlee99, Titus, Enchant

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 5 will end in (expired on 2022-02-07 21:00:00).

[House]

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[House]

This is "caught in the headlights" scum.

Galron/Enchant

Lock it in.

[House]

The same player that was screaming for my blood at the start of day now refuses to vote me but doesn't townread me.