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Struggle to believe that notscience wouldn't jump at the chance of a 50/50 if he can prove himself town and instead goes snipehunting in 6

As town he is more than happy to take 1v1 challenges and run with it even if he loses.

I have never been eliminated day 1 in any game as either alignment. -- So yes, I trust my own ability to dodge day 1.

When I am not actively panicking in the heat of the moment during a game (when I think that I am actually the worst player ever), I am aware of these things.

I don't think I would sign up to be a single carry, because I don't have that long term confidence, but I do generally think of myself as hard to eliminate.

Okay.

I do not expect your reads to persuade me but maybe they will. I look forward to seeing who you think is scum in both the 6 and the 3.

(I think both of those are overly specific and trying to resist me generalizing. This would be valid if you're town, but I don't buy that you are worried in exactly these specific scenarios and pretty confident otherwise, it is more likely that the specific scenarios are especially concerning and the rest only mild to medium concerning.

And you thinking 4 of the 6 are universally worse suited is ????? if legitimate)

I'm going to let the game breathe for a bit.

I would also like esther to weigh in, if my pushing you was uncomfortable it should now no longer be an issue.

Maybe I am a big dummy, but I cannot parse out what 403 means x.x

"I haven't been eliminated Day 1" to mean you wouldn't be worried about it.

"When not actively panicking" is a qualifier to the above, but again has the feel of "I'm strong when I'm not under pressure" where you obviously wouldn't feel pressure or anxiety upon flipping scum, because no elim Day 1 etc.

I legitimately can't tell if you feel like you to justify this to survive or are just confused and getting increasingly convoluted in your explanations because of you have your role PM in hand

The "when not actively panicking" line was because I thought your point about my lack of confidence as scum was in reference to the moment in that game you modded where I was actively panicking and saying that I was terrible at this game in the scum chat. I was saying that that moment is not a good reference to how I feel about my scum game.

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If you want to talk in generals, these are the general thoughts that lead me to making that statement about the sort

"If I were scum, I would have sorted to avoid a day 1 auto loss"
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"I am pretty good at dodging a day 1 elimination" (I have never been eliminated day 1 in any game as either alignment)
->
"I would probably suggest I take the 6p hood unless I thought the other scum player was better at dodging day 1 then I am"
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"Prism and Dunn are the only people I see on the list I would off hand think that about"
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"I would probably put myself into the 6 p hood, unless my partner was exactly Prism or Dunn"

And that was the extent of my thoughts going into my answer.

It just feels like I am being told that my own real thoughts are impossible for me to have had, and so here I am.

But then you are going into who that would make be the end game scum, or who that would have me in a hood with, or who I would be worried about scum hunting me -- and literally none of that factored into my answer.

That is still a ridiculous amount of conditionals and I am skeptical of several, again in particular 2 and 4.

I think you understand why I am skeptical. It is not much of a puzzle and I have been very direct.

Do you think me being wrong is scum indicative or motivated? If not, go find scum in the 3 or 6.

I don't think 410 needs a response even if I hypothetically could.

In post 411, Prism wrote:That is still a ridiculous amount of conditionals and I am skeptical of several, again in particular 2 and 4.

You don't think that I think that I am hard to eliminate?

Is that something that you think that I would lie about as scum?

And if not, why not? would be nice for the last question of 411

Depends on your level of play, but this is about what .

Yes.

Oh god, this has caused an intense desire for me to of through my past games and compile all of the times that I have said that I am hard to eliminate.

That would probably not be a worthy use of my time, but god the temptation is there.

In post 415, Prism wrote:Yes.

Why would scum!Luke need to lie about how he felt about his own eliminability? This seems like such a useless place to choose to lie.

One link that is clearly broadly relevant and not of questionable motivation/veracity will suffice. There are still other concerns but that would help.

It's literally you saying you wouldn't put yourself in the small hood without 4 of 6 as scum. There is blatant scum motivation unless you think you will specifically be called out for it.

I take it back, save the link, I am flipping you, this is absurd and you are not this dense.

I am way too frustrated by several aspects of this and am about to get progressively more vicious.

Link it and I'll evaluate later.

I can see Lukewarm doing the endless question spiral as town, will check against scum record later when not malding.

In post 575, Servant Archer wrote:I personally feel like I am a pretty hard person to push out in almost every game I have played.

The same post goes on to talk about specifics for that game, like how many town reads I had, but here is me saying that I am a hard person to push out in almost every game. I am sure there are others, because I know I have mentioned it a few times, but this one was the first one I remembered a specific game that it came up in.

Todoroki who are you again? Since you keep being nonmislimmable day 1 or whatever.

- Norwee

I was wondering about for scum not just for town though I guess that applies to both.

Either way I don't want to nitpick further with you right now. I will revisit and there are other places for you to direct your attention if I am wrong, rather than focusing solely on defense.

I am LOGGING OFF AND DRINKING MY MARTINELLI'S, GOODBYE