Micro 1052: Lake Melancholy [END]

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Is it bad that part of me is lowkey wondering if ari is scum ... ?
This might be bad
But yeah

I do not think she is.

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I can respond to specific points of Aristeia's if someone wants, but right now I no longer have the stomach for this. I'm sorry.

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I want to make a joke about 2064, remind me later.

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I'm really not in the mood to banter with you after the last few pages. Advocate I am scum all you want, quote my posts if they're relevant, but please leave me alone.

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If it's not actually inevitable there's no reason to policy me. That question spring up while you were talking about you forcing it over Aristeia.

I do think it is plausible that it comes from town given that my inevitable perspective was

because

you were down to vote me and no one else was close to consensus. You don't feel that way because you are the one with the agency. Or maybe you are scum and opportunistic knowing one liners/brush offs are meta. Shrug.

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re: 2072 my feelings have come and gone, but there is a more complicated middle ground ATM of wanting this to be over/being sick of this, with some hope that maybe we really can swing outside.

I had a few posts on it not being game losing on me earlier, and still think of all wrong elims I am probably the best to happen, but I think Baltar is flailing as scum and that vote will always be better than my own. If we can get it, we should do so.

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"If it's not actually inevitable there's no reason to policy me." This is confusing because it uses a different use for policy than the one we've been using, which is about the scary/inscrutable

My concern is that you weren't scumreading me, but suddenly when I went doomsayer yeah your vote is let plop it down and cite the "well of the town elims it's the best one" argument I used instead of actually aiming for scum

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I do currently think it is you or Enchant.

I also do not think same neighborhood with Datisi is clearing.

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2079 is worth elaborating on.

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If it's me or enchant we win even if you flip town today by going Baltar > Enchant > Dwlee

That is the hope, yeah lmao

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I concur that I am the Best of All Possible Townflips. I do not think me making some attempt to vote scum when presented the chance is really the silver bullet you think it is here.

There was a phase where I clearly was the consensus pick, the situation with 7p/5p disaster wasn not going away,and I encouraged pulling people down from the fences and maybe making the game somewhat playable with Aristeia humbled.

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I think we've been over that one, but you haven't touched on any others iirc

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I mean that's fine, I don't seriously expect to swap your vote, but lay down some reasoning and go through the process. My concern is that you are scum who knows you can get away with openly saying "Nah"

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Looking forward to it~

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skitter just say no, it is just going to make this so much worse

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Does anyone think Fire/Ceph is possible

I think Fire is too inexperienced to take some of the very calculated and clean moves they have here, esp. with regards to my slot

Re: Ceph perhaps they are scared of a late-game fight and hoping I go through anyway but for now I'm throwing them in the town bucket, definitely not scum with Baltar

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That is a lot of faith to place in someone whose reads are extremely hit/miss lmao

I have not read enough of fire, just an idea to think about as the game progresses

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At the end of the day on my flip I am going to go outside and mostly forget about it except to chuckle in a day or two. Please take care of yourself and remember it is just a game.

While I am more put-off, this is still fundamentally true, and I am going to quote this for emphasis and it does not need a response at this time.

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It's my townreads on the slots

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I never thought I would be the person to make the "just a game" argument, and in many ways I am not. I havebeen mildly concerned about the day phase but am greatly concerned about the night phase onwards.

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I am now in a good enough mood to make this.

Ok
Maybe i'm horribly pocketed
I dont see myself voting prism outside of needing to move the game along, and prefer vpb

Ugh, fine, I guess you ARE my little

notscience

, come here

[Prism]

It's pretty self-explanatory. Specifically for me, it is a frequently used tool when I want to pivot a read on someone or redirect energy to another slot. There are several forms. One is that I tilt, argue, and go for a long walk/drive where I more neutrally examine and come to the conclusion someone I am pushing is town. I think a lot of people do this frequently. Another might be a different angle on a push itself, pouncing on a perceived weakness.

It works well because it gets townread widely as evidence of process, and for good reason. Many of my best moments as town come from precisely such posts.

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Something that I think IS somewhat unique to me is that it is pretty common for them to be planned hundreds of posts or weeks in advance

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Dwlee's posting on the last two/three pages has been good imo. Thanks for putting in the effort.

Skitter they have the votes to flip me if needed+as corny as it is (scum they won't do it!!!!) I can self at deadline to avoid a no elim.

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Only thing I really saw for me to respond to was the "initial points seemed weak" singled out by fire.

A key part of the way I scumhunt is finding something that I think is off in their interactions with me for a player and going aggressive until I am satisfied. Forest Fire has me doing similar meta expectation push against Hectic initially (town), and Slaughter Hour has me doing it against Gamma Emerald (scum) as examples.

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Second that I saw that post from Aristeia about me/skitter, which felt performative to begin with, I hit the gas.

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It is not surprising to me that Baltar's gut has not picked up on Datisi being very awkward at several points this game

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Yeah assuming at least one of Shuichi/Datisi/Enchant pay somewhat attention and vote a main wagon we're not in danger of no elim. I can commit to selfvoting if at E-1 with an hour on the clock, treating it as a scumclaim if I do not, and fire can also swap over.

Throw the vote up and enjoy the vacation skitter, get hype because even with a scumflip we are running all of this shit back Day 2

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Enchant should also be on skitter tonight imo, test VT claim+zero chance scum with Baltar.

P-Edit why hello lmfao

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Enchant I am not complaining but literally WHY

WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS

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Rather, very low chance scum with Baltar, and still possibly scum if T/T

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I will never understand how, as the only person who has seen an actually good scumgame of mine, you just aren't fazed. Zero. No fear. Reasoning? Nah

Just roll through with the shades, a lit blunt, and a "Deal with it weeb". No fear.

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It's fine, drag down the fencesitters

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DRAG ARISTEIA KICKING AND SCREAMING AND DRINKING TO THE SCUMFLIP

AS MILLIONS OF HANDS REACH OUT TO FORCEFULLY DRAG SHUICHI/DATISI DOWN FROM THE BLEACHERS

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see Dwlee you have to flatter me while refusing to read my slot

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on a more serious note a vote sometime during this lifetime would be nice

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No, you need to hear about how FL ran scum ascetic/town bunyip again

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iirc Datisi has Baltar's claim if either want to share

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Neither can I to be fair

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I think the mere fact of outing when they did and not being on me instead is +town for Shuichi, even if not 100%. Will be 100% if Baltar flips scum.

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This game cannot end soon enough. 5 days ago would have been too late.

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Town
======
skitter30
Shuichi
fireisred
Datisi
Dwlee
Enchant
VP Baltar
Aristeia
======
Scum & MVP

I will be back later, I have another project today

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I would love to draw and call it a day.

P-Edit: No, but you did start playing better.

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Perhaps I am wrong on skitter and she is just playing it in the safest way imaginable, and I will scream if so.

For now I'm fine with her at the top. If you want to be pedantic she could maybe go below Shuichi/fire for range reasons.

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VOTE: Draw

Pretty sure this gets rejected but OK.

Anyway, for real will be back later and put vote back on Baltar if no draw.

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We literally had enough to flip VP Baltar but okay.

VOTE: Prism

Just end it, I'm not going to deal with this for another ~10 hours while we wonder whether someone will hammer.

Not WIFOMing, someone let me out.

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I will have no postgame commentary. I am not going to shake hands and reassure Aristeia it is fine, I am not going to be upset. I want nothing to do with this afterwards.

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Aristeia needs to vote back.

skitter needs to place hers.

Enchant/fire/Shuichi/Datisi, any one please end it.

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Forward all complaints to me postgame about not playing to wincon but you have my reads.

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Thanks, hope you win the game regardless of your alignment.

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Aristeia is deciding whether or not this is more survivalistic theater and will come out with a post about it in a second instead of just shutting up and voting don't worry

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Concur on 2265 but appreciated if they are in fact town.

Still don't think Aristeia is scum but that's your call to make.

I am once again requesting a hammer.

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Oh, I think VP Baltar is voting me too. Should be, yeah.

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Normally, I love getting beat and voted out as scum.

I was looking forward to the postgame for much of the game. I have fundamentally just been putting on a parlor trick showcase since somewhere around page 3. I love talking about where town was exactly right, where I went wrong, what got picked up, what didn't, the good bets I made, the bad bets I made, and the constraints I felt in making them. It's weird, but typically no one is happier than me when I lose as scum. My favorite games are all losses. I love celebrating a job well done and attributing praise where it is due.

I'm simultaneously deeply concerned about the ramifications of what would have happened were I town, and what the out of game consequences would have been. I am glad I am mafia and I am glad my position was such that I was not once tempted to emulate that world convincingly.

I don't really think I can advance one of these viewpoints without betraying the other. I found this game disturbing.

Perhaps above all else, I am disturbed as to what the implications are of my scumflip for future games, whether I am in them or not.

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Yeah i'm not really sure what to say to that, or if this is something i want to hash out rn

It is unfortunate that my prediction is proven immediately correct.

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No redactions to the scum PT.

Congratulations to the town. I disagree with 2610. I have no further public comments for the game.