Open 861: The Turing Test [game over]

[Loki Dokie]

Despite the name, weren't a Jester in that game, but you were scum

I’ve never played with you as scum and there’s no way in hell you don’t know this is my towngame.

[Greeting]

Vivax seems less witty than usual.

Nothing to say on the actual substance of Vivax's posts?

There's not much of it. The thing with

Vivax

is he likes to troll around. In this game he seems to be more invested and defensive, which I think for him is a bad sign.

[Greeting]

VOTE: Greeting

I did a meta dive and based off of that, I think he could be scum here.

So you checked my random town game and decided that whatever it is doesn't match to what I'm doing here?

Mission failed successfully.

[Roden]

Despite the name, weren't a Jester in that game, but you were scum

I’ve never played with you as scum and there’s no way in hell you don’t know this is my towngame.

You did. We were both on alts.

[Loki Dokie]

i think furtive can be town for being funny

he wasn't very funny as scum

maybe more that he seems relaxed here

Fine, I'll look into that. Though tbf even if I put

furtiveglance

in my PoE, deep down I think it would be wiser to eliminate a more obvious scum today.

Really weird comment. I don't agree with RR being 'obvious scum'.

I think they’re both scum and Kitty is the cw to scum.

Kitty is pretty much getting voted for low activity which is totally nia for him.

[furtiveglance]

I'd say right now I townread Dannflor, Loki, Fire and GuiltyLion.

Bell could go either way, I can definitely see them as scum but that doesn't fit their interactions with my other scumreads so could depend on flips.

RR hasn't done enough to be town but I find Greeting's push on them more sus than they are.

Aristeia could be town but I'm leaning towards mafia.

Greeting, Vivax, and Roden seem like mafia.

I don't have a read on KittyTacky or kuti plz yet.

[Loki Dokie]

VOTE: Greeting

I did a meta dive and based off of that, I think he could be scum here.

So you checked my random town game and decided that whatever it is doesn't match to what I'm doing here?

Mission failed successfully.

If I’m somehow wrong on you, vote Roden. He has never wrongly sr me in any game ever. He’s one of those players like Mastina who never srs me as town.

[Greeting]

Okay, well, I think

KittyTacky

is more likely town than scum.

Posts 368, 373 are made by town and exhibit a towny mindset. Plus this registers in my mind as something

KittyTacky

would say. So yeah, he's out of the PoE for Day 1.

[Roden]

ok let's say I am wrong about you.

who would you like to kill and why?

VOTE: Furtive

Furtive just misrep'd my play in a past game to justify his scum read on me. What makes it egregious is that we already had a conversation about this game before and doesn't have an excuse for suddenly not remembering the game correctly now.

How long has everyone been playing? Outta curiosity

I used to play a lot but it’s probably been about ~3 years since I did last. My home website went the way of the dodo sadly

A little over a year, but the last time I played in the newbie queue was back in September.

Did I see you fakeclaim Tracker in a game?

I did actually, in Newbie 2070.

Postgame got a bit heated in that one, LOL.

A bit yeah haha, it was a rough spot for town.

He also misread me really badly that game and mindlessly tunneled me. Scum reading me this game before I really do much of anything shows a lack of reassessment or even any caution in making the same mistake again.

I was just chatting about the game in which you fakeclaimed Tracker, it's not why I scumread you.

Didn't claim that was your reason, I said you're trying to justify your scum read.

Yeah I'd definitely like Roden to say more before I considered voting there.

Dann’s argument would suggest that Roden’s scumgame isn’t good. His vote on me is bad but as scum, he’d probably realize that.

In the game I played with scum!him I was getting heavily wagoned and Roden hard wk’d me. This just seems to be really sloppy if Roden’s scum here.

Roden was so good in that game that last town miselimmed me at elo and Roden won, so why would his scumgame suddenly turn to shit? Idk what to think rn.

I read that game and I think it was mostly the PR claim rather than anything else.

Unless I'm just wildly off base here, this reads as you downplaying how I played as scum in that game to better fit the narrative for why I'm getting scum read this game.

No, and I don't follow that argument. I said why I scumread you: filler logs which looked pockety.

Still don't understand what you mean by pocket either.

[Greeting]

VOTE: Greeting

I did a meta dive and based off of that, I think he could be scum here.

So you checked my random town game and decided that whatever it is doesn't match to what I'm doing here?

Mission failed successfully.

If I’m somehow wrong on you, vote Roden. He has never wrongly sr me in any game ever. He’s one of those players like Mastina who never srs me as town.

I can see that he started posting actual content, but I go chronologically and haven't gotten there yet.

[Loki Dokie]

I'd say right now I townread Dannflor, Loki, Fire and GuiltyLion.

Bell could go either way, I can definitely see them as scum but that doesn't fit their interactions with my other scumreads so could depend on flips.

RR hasn't done enough to be town but I find Greeting's push on them more sus than they are.

Aristeia could be town but I'm leaning towards mafia.

Greeting, Vivax, and Roden seem like mafia.

I don't have a read on KittyTacky or kuti plz yet.

I agree with this because I didn’t like his Roden progression. First he insists Roden is town for pretty much no reason, then he suddenly jumps on him at e2, to get towncred when Roden flims scum. Now both are voting likely town!Kitty, which makes sense since he’s defending me + easy miselimbait. Scum wants me gone for pretty much the same reason they did in Chromavalon. They know I will eventually catch them all and they’re running scared.

[furtiveglance]

Spoiler:

Still don't understand what you mean by pocket either.

Bell: I sometimes feel like I play adjacent to some players (kinda irrelevant comment)
You: Yeah I totally get that.

You're not townreading Bell, but you're kind of affirming them. See what I mean?

[Loki Dokie]

Okay, well, I think

KittyTacky

is more likely town than scum.

Posts 368, 373 are made by town and exhibit a towny mindset. Plus this registers in my mind as something

KittyTacky

would say. So yeah, he's out of the PoE for Day 1.

Vote Roden, he’s not town.

[furtiveglance]

I'd say right now I townread Dannflor, Loki, Fire and GuiltyLion.

Bell could go either way, I can definitely see them as scum but that doesn't fit their interactions with my other scumreads so could depend on flips.

RR hasn't done enough to be town but I find Greeting's push on them more sus than they are.

Aristeia could be town but I'm leaning towards mafia.

Greeting, Vivax, and Roden seem like mafia.

I don't have a read on KittyTacky or kuti plz yet.

I agree with this because I didn’t like his Roden progression. First he insists Roden is town for pretty much no reason, then he suddenly jumps on him at e2, to get towncred when Roden flims scum. Now both are voting likely town!Kitty, which makes sense since he’s defending me + easy miselimbait. Scum wants me gone for pretty much the same reason they did in Chromavalon. They know I will eventually catch them all and they’re running scared.

1) Who are you talking about?
2) Mafia are voting someone who is defending you so they can then vote you? Why don't they just vote you now? I feel like your ego/paranoia is driving your gamesolve, I do townread you but this isn't a great way to think about the game.

[Roden]

VOTE: Greeting

I did a meta dive and based off of that, I think he could be scum here.

So you checked my random town game and decided that whatever it is doesn't match to what I'm doing here?

Mission failed successfully.

If I’m somehow wrong on you, vote Roden. He has never wrongly sr me in any game ever. He’s one of those players like Mastina who never srs me as town.

Okay, well, I think

KittyTacky

is more likely town than scum.

Posts 368, 373 are made by town and exhibit a towny mindset. Plus this registers in my mind as something

KittyTacky

would say. So yeah, he's out of the PoE for Day 1.

Vote Roden, he’s not town.

Are you still claiming that I'm lying about knowing your scum meta?

[Roden]

Spoiler:

Still don't understand what you mean by pocket either.

Bell: I sometimes feel like I play adjacent to some players (kinda irrelevant comment)
You: Yeah I totally get that.

You're not townreading Bell, but you're kind of affirming them. See what I mean?

No...? How the fuck does someone get pocketed by saying "I get that"?

[Greeting]

What game were we both in where I was scum? Or is that just a general read?

in the coalition game you were significantly more townie when pressured. Coalition Micro

similarly in Fusion Upick

when you're scum you tend to kind of don't have that kind of edge/angry tone in your voice.

You don't have the same kind of edge when defending yourself and it feels like you're not quite really here and more importantly you don't feel like you want to be here.

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Radio Buzz


I understand from your last completed mini normal[2276] you were fustrated over being nightkilled on n1 and perhaps not wanting to be nightkilled would be a valid explanation for maybe not being as townie as you have been in the past but this game is not really that sort of game.

in this game, scum can't just shoot the towniest townies - it would be quite suicidal of them to do so because it would make the 1v1s quite lopsided, they have to actually shoot in the murky middle so to speak, as a result you should be trying to be as townie as possible but it doesn't feel like you're enthusiastic about this game at all.

Dang, this is spot on when it comes to

Roden

. I mean, I agree wholeheartedly with this assessment and I think scum

Aristeia

would not have a purpose to make such a post.

Yeah, my next step is analysing

Roden

's ISO in this game.

[furtiveglance]

Spoiler:

Still don't understand what you mean by pocket either.

Bell: I sometimes feel like I play adjacent to some players (kinda irrelevant comment)
You: Yeah I totally get that.

You're not townreading Bell, but you're kind of affirming them. See what I mean?

No...? How the fuck does someone get pocketed by saying "I get that"?

It's just a subtly positive reaction to their waffling which has no other bearing on the game.

[Loki Dokie]

Current Roden voters probably all town. Scum:Roden, Vivax, Greeting + ?? Maybe fire?

Kitty/furtive voters likely trying to save him.

[Greeting]

i think furtive can be town for being funny

he wasn't very funny as scum

maybe more that he seems relaxed here

Fine, I'll look into that. Though tbf even if I put

furtiveglance

in my PoE, deep down I think it would be wiser to eliminate a more obvious scum today.

Really weird comment. I don't agree with RR being 'obvious scum'.

Mini's Scumhunting Kit

Scumtell "Being "jokingly" scummy, self-admitting they are scummy, claiming scum". Most players have done this, including myself, but

RR

took it to a higher level.

[Roden]

Why the fuck is everyone telling me that it's scummy to be positive in any way but then lose your minds every game the moment I actually get annoyed or pissed off

Y'all are fucking insane

[Roden]

Loki if you continue to ignore me and pretend the game doesn't exist I'm just gonna alt out you and post the exact game I'm talking about

[Loki Dokie]

I'd say right now I townread Dannflor, Loki, Fire and GuiltyLion.

Bell could go either way, I can definitely see them as scum but that doesn't fit their interactions with my other scumreads so could depend on flips.

RR hasn't done enough to be town but I find Greeting's push on them more sus than they are.

Aristeia could be town but I'm leaning towards mafia.

Greeting, Vivax, and Roden seem like mafia.

I don't have a read on KittyTacky or kuti plz yet.

I agree with this because I didn’t like his Roden progression. First he insists Roden is town for pretty much no reason, then he suddenly jumps on him at e2, to get towncred when Roden flims scum. Now both are voting likely town!Kitty, which makes sense since he’s defending me + easy miselimbait. Scum wants me gone for pretty much the same reason they did in Chromavalon. They know I will eventually catch them all and they’re running scared.

1) Who are you talking about?
2) Mafia are voting someone who is defending you so they can then vote you? Why don't they just vote you now? I feel like your ego/paranoia is driving your gamesolve, I do townread you but this isn't a great way to think about the game.

Vivax, if Roden is scum here, extremely likely, then he looks like a possible bussing buddy. Sometimes I am totally lost in games, usually larges but other times I’m really good like I was in Chromavalon and I think that this is one of those games.

[Loki Dokie]

Loki if you continue to ignore me and pretend the game doesn't exist I'm just gonna alt out you and post the exact game I'm talking about

You out YOUR alt then. In any case, you have never wrongly sr me in any game ever so you can stop trying to manipulate me with this.

[Loki Dokie]

You know what Roden, go ahead and link whatever game you’re talking about because if it will help me get you limmed, I’m all for it.