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Although, come to think of it, we might have a Happily Ever After situation on our hands, folks.

If Jordan is telling the truth (which I can't verify since I kept myself in Light last night, but I don't see any good reason for him not to be,) he can infinitely protect himself by locking DGB into Dark and keeping himself Dark...but that also guarantees that he can't kill DGB (and vice versa) leading to night after night of no-kills on cross-targeting.

Therefore, scum's only options for killing are us townies, which may fail due to polarity (and in the case of Saki being targeted, may cause them to lose the game to a reflect kill.) Even if they succeed, they are bringing the game closer to a scumdraw, or even achieving one if they kill both of us, which they obviously don't want.

And town has obviously no incentive to lynch anyone and make this more of a slot-machine roll than it already is. Ugh.

but I've spent enough work time on this already. Later

soo much apathy

I'm pretty confident that dgb is scum

Waiting for Jordan.

Sooo. I don't get why DGB would claim to be locked as any alignment. Please tell us. I'll talking to myself tonight. TYIA

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:Sooo. I don't get why DGB would claim to be locked as any alignment. Please tell us. I'll talking to myself tonight. TYIA

I was my mistake. I thought I had changed my polarity and failed, but in fact it did work so I am not in any way locked.

PRODGE, about half done with my massive workload and the hard parts are mostly over.

Not sure I'll still need to do that thorough evaluation if Saki's come around to DGB though, but can it really hurt? Only my sanity, probably

Since the game is closed, Bulba isn't likely to respond to any HEA speculation.

We play semi-Kingmaker here if you want. Lynch off a scum today, hope for a polarity miracle at night, and if neither of us die we can lynch the remaining scum for the win (if you haven't already vanquished them with a reflect-kill). If the way you want to play it however, the optimal play is to try to lynch , since he might be able to lock one of our polarities and guarantee a game-winning kill if he goes into night, whereas DGB seems to have no such power. That's assuming DGB will drop the facade and hammer him, though, and that's no guarantee.

Our other option and/or fallback, of course, is to no lynch again and let them duke it out once more. If we get a no-kill again, well, that's up to Bulba's discretion whether he wants to continue the game or not.

So, we're in agreement that one of Saki/DGB has to be scum because of the flip yesterday and the claims. I think it's Saki because he as good as claimed scum yesterday. Other me thinks its DGB because of the entrance today. There is a chance that both of them are scum, in which case Kai must be town. Neither of us thinks Kai is town.

Fuck it.

VOTE: NoLynch

I need to keep thinking, and there's not much any of you can say that won't just confuse the issue more. I think No Lynch is our best bet now, especially since I don't trust myself to lynch right anymore. Fuck this game, it makes my head hurt.

VOTE: no lynch

just let the guns be fired again can i please move on to another game

So be it.

VOTE: No Lynch

*sigh*

I'm still town. I misremembered my previous polarity.

WHAT

Seriously

Saki was SK

There's a neutral polarity with three people alive

Well I guess in hindsight I should have realized Saki scum when he asked to sign that quote of mine, but how is the latter even possible?

I'm not sure my mind is ready for the prospect of SKOT being right about pretty much everything

I'm on my phone at work.. that last post took about half an hour to make

When I get home I will start rereading the and I recommend other town to do the same

For now I will note that I am still Light, so there is one person Dark and one person with no polarity somehow.

I'll assume that being neutral means that all your actions go through and all actions work on you. In isolation its a double edged sword and thus difficult to place on town or scum. I will note that it fits Jordan's claimed role particularly well.

Kai obviously shot Saki looking to hit town. DGB, anything to say before I vote?

Actually fuck that.

VOTE: Kai

↑ Kaiveran wrote:I'll assume that being neutral means that all your actions go through and all actions work on you. In isolation its a double edged sword and thus difficult to place on town or scum. I will note that it fits Jordan's claimed role particularly well.

Quite a jump here from no information.

You also claimed the polarity that killed Saki.

Either you're neutral scum whose action always goes through or your Light aligned scum who got a kill off on Saki last night.

DGB, end this game.

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:Actually fuck that.

VOTE: Kai

FUCKING UNVOTE YOU IDIOT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVEN TO REEVALUATE YOUR READ OF ME IN ?

IS THERE A BRAIN IN EITHER OF THOSE TWO HEADS?

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:

↑ Kaiveran wrote:I'll assume that being neutral means that all your actions go through and all actions work on you. In isolation its a double edged sword and thus difficult to place on town or scum. I will note that it fits Jordan's claimed role particularly well.

Quite a jump here from no information.

You also claimed the polarity that killed Saki.

Either you're neutral scum whose action always goes through or your Light aligned scum who got a kill off on Saki last night.

DGB, end this game.

What the fuck else would neutral be? actions going off or being received? How the hell would a neutral be scum then?

If I were scum, why would I just go and claim a polarity that killed off my biggest townread and cast doubt on myself?

, why would you not even consider the possibility of a re-evaluation? The only reason you would do this as town is if I was 100% confirmed scum, and I am not.

You would also wait to hear from DGB, your 100% townread, before just shitting out a vote.

I'm beginning to think a re-read might not be necessary. I can't see bullshit like this ever coming out of town in LyLo. And with Saki flipping SK, DGB is likely the other town.

Which means my only option is to crossvote you and put her in the hot seat, and hope to all fuck that I can convince her.

VOTE: Jordan_Downey

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:Kai obviously shot Saki looking to hit town. DGB, anything to say before I vote?

Yes, I want to say something.

"I want to vote Kai"

But before I do I am off to play badminton and when I come back I will shower and watch Kansas City beat the Orioles or vice-versa.

↑ Kaiveran wrote:I'm not sure my mind is ready for the prospect of SKOT being right about pretty much everything

Yeah I might hang myself before midnight.

<3 SKOT

Jordan, try as he might, can't cut off the conversation before it's even started. You have the hammer to dole out, so that is now your choice, and I know that if you are town, it is not in your best interests to end things quickly. It's in your best interests to take your time and analyze anything that you think is necessary, on parties, before you make your decision.

You ended last day appearing to strongly scumread me, which in the likely situation that you are town, means that I have so far failed in my duties. So for that I'd like to issue a pre-emptive apology. I am just an odd person, and feel that I often have difficulty communicating effectively or articulating my arguments, especially in a high tension situation. Which leads to what most people would call shitty play. In this game it's only been compounded by real life circumstances and modding a game on top of it, so this game simply could not have the fullest extent of my attention and efforts. Perhaps it was a rash decision to join this game. Oh, who am I kidding, it was a decision. I should have known that looking at the game through a spectator's eye and a player's eye are two things, and I severely underestimated what it would take to come into this game. And now I am in this predicament.

But there's no going back now. I'm not going to be that asshole who gives up and replaces out in the final hour. Besides, no one is going to replace into this clusterfuck, especially given that the Replacement Thread is burdened with huge numbers of requests. The burden is mine and mine alone to bear.



So please, voice your grievances, take me to task on anything you like. I will try to explain anything that you feel needs explaining. I will even comment on my predecessor's play if necessary, although given that I am not Xayzeck and am not familiar with him at all, I cannot guarantee satisfactory responses on that front.

In any case, let Jordan fool you into thinking the game is over, because it isn't. decide when the game is over. Even if you strongly feel that he is town and that I am scum, you can't deny that him rushing to vote me without even waiting for you to comment (among other things I've noted) is brash and anti-town, and in LyLo, is an excuse for not sitting down and thoroughly evaluating all of your options before dropping the decisive hammer.

So grill me, grill Jordan, grill all you like. Just get to grilling, please.