Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Nachomamma8]

How are you helping the rate of clears when you haven't saved a single person yet? Seems like a bad excuse not to scum hunt 100%...

He saved mastin N1, remember?
I find it unlikely that LC is scum and don't know why you think otherwise.

[Wickedestjr]

He didn't save Mastin...

3996 implies/describes my concerns

[T S O]

LC, me and Mastin played Jaqen-scum in a game a while back and he was somewhat the same. He wasn't as downright poor as he has been here, but it was the same in many aspects. I'm not comfortable with calling him town, but he isn't my first choice for scum.

[Nachomamma8]

He didn't save Mastin...

3996 implies/describes my concerns

Mastin commuted N1.
There was no kill N1.

Am I missing something?

[vezokpiraka]

He didn't save Mastin...

3996 implies/describes my concerns

Mastin commuted N1.
There was no kill N1.

Am I missing something?

Bins died night 1.

[Nachomamma8]

oh nvm I thought she was lynched d1

[Lying Cat]

but that's not 100% true and you're ignoring the presence of the roleblock inventor which is also capable of preventing nightkills.

I understand that setup spec is not your forte, but I need you to stop and think about this statement for a little while.

How are you helping the rate of clears when you haven't saved a single person yet? Seems like a bad excuse not to scum hunt 100%...

I kinda think we should mass claim. I think that LC is scum still, but town might not be strong enough without them... Anyone disagree?

OK so first off, BoP is a fallacy because it's meaningless. Please stop.

Secondly, are you reading my fucking posts? A significant amount of the posts my slot has made this game have been concerned optimal use of the weak cop, and the defending of that plan against bizarre anti-logic. The plan that resulted in us having 3 conftown.

[Lying Cat]

I'm totally down for massclaim btw.

[Nachomamma8]

I need more mastin and PV in my life.

[Nachomamma8]

And also we seriously need a Constantine replacement, hasn't posted in 9 days and needs to go.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm really not interested in massclaim based on how slow this game moves and also because all inventors have been accounted for and it seems pretty clear everyone else is just VTs.

[Jaqen Hghar]

And also we seriously need a Constantine replacement, hasn't posted in 9 days and needs to go.

Or we are just lynching that one? If scum apathy is existing, a man is thinking half of their team down would be the cause. Constantine, looking at how that one is posting as a history, isn't exactly the quiet type.

VOTE: Constantine

This one's flip is showing exactly how conftown those three are and would solidify commute inventor as the last scum should this one flip mafia.

[Cerberus v666]

And also we seriously need a Constantine replacement, hasn't posted in 9 days and needs to go.

Or we are just lynching that one? If scum apathy is existing, a man is thinking half of their team down would be the cause. Constantine, looking at how that one is posting as a history, isn't exactly the quiet type.

VOTE: Constantine

This one's flip is showing exactly how conftown those three are and would solidify commute inventor as the last scum should this one flip mafia.

So. You're telling me you want to lynch the slot that was investigated by a confirmed by flip town slot, on the day when scum were least likely to have any idea who was being targeted by an investigative power?

Like you're looking at the chance that there is scum redirection in the game times .25 to determine the likelihood of that occurring.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Sonic is saying he is investigating Constantine slot

Shakira Cinfirmed is confirming they are receiving the commute N1 and no one is calling bullshit on it, which means they are in fact receiving it then

That means they are in no way confirmed anything

LC is claiming Commute Inventor and that one's plan is laced with scum agenda

Constantine, a very vocal poster throughout his meta is all of a sudden becoming a mute, skating by on a clear which once one actually looks at it is in no way a clear because that one isn't even present to be investigated N1 thanks to being commuted

[Nachomamma8]

LC gave the commute to mastin N1 I thought?

[Nachomamma8]

So. You're telling me you want to lynch the slot that was investigated by a confirmed by flip town slot, on the day when scum were least likely to have any idea who was being targeted by an investigative power?

Like you're looking at the chance that there is scum redirection in the game times .25 to determine the likelihood of that occurring.

It's not a bad assumption to assume that scum have a counter to the weak cop, although the commute and roleblocker inventors could sort of serve as a counter of their own.

[Jaqen Hghar]

SC is saying something to the effect of 'inventor with the invention no one is knowing about who is giving me that invention the first two nights...', wait. That was the block invention. That isn't revealing LC scum with a Constantine scum flip is it? It's revealing a Cerberus scum flip.

Yeah. Lynch Constantine. This is the best move today.

[Nachomamma8]

SC is saying something to the effect of 'inventor with the invention no one is knowing about who is giving me that invention the first two nights...', wait. That was the block invention. That isn't revealing LC scum with a Constantine scum flip is it? It's revealing a Cerberus scum flip.

Yeah. Lynch Constantine. This is the best move today.

Don't think Constantine-scum means Cerb-scum either.

Still pretty happy on vezok wagon: is there a reason you think he might be town?

[Lying Cat]

sigh

[Jaqen Hghar]

Yeah- being this much of an ass with exactly this much of an idgaf attitude makes vezok more likely town than scum IMO. If Constantine flips scum then it's obvious one of the claimed inventors is as well. My bet would be on the one who invented to him the night he was investigated since it was known before hand he was going to be targeted.

Do you really think all three inventors are town? It doesn't seem likely to me. I don't have to be popular to be right Nacho. And regardless of what these fucks keep saying, I've been wrong twice. I've been proven right five times. You (Nacho) know I don't lol hammer, so you should also know I had reason (even if I didn't articulate the reason in thread) for hammering those last two. Kia my math said was clearly scum. Ari slot has ties with the LC plan as well as with Cerb and I sure as hell wasn't town reading them, but people don't go back and look at shit anymore so I'm not expecting anyone to now.

If two of LC, Cerb, and Constantine aren't scum only other option I have is you and T S O which would be screwed up because I have reasons to town read both of you. You more than him. So you tell me Nacho- where is my logic flawed?

[Cerberus v666]

Jaqen, it doesn't matter how right you were on town, at all, when the thing you were bragging about was how right you are about scum. Nobody was discussing your overall reads accuracy, but your ability to find scum. That was the discussion, that's the thing you were arrogant about for which you deserve some degree of ridicule, but that time is over now.

I don't understand what you mean when you say "it was known before hand he was going to be targeted"

Constantine was investigated N1. Nobody knew a weak cop invention existed except flubber. I'm confused by what you're saying here.

[Cerberus v666]

So. You're telling me you want to lynch the slot that was investigated by a confirmed by flip town slot, on the day when scum were least likely to have any idea who was being targeted by an investigative power?

Like you're looking at the chance that there is scum redirection in the game times .25 to determine the likelihood of that occurring.

It's not a bad assumption to assume that scum have a counter to the weak cop, although the commute and roleblocker inventors could sort of serve as a counter of their own.

I feel like redirection goes beyond just being a counter to weak cop though, because of the ability to simply use their redirection to force an extra, unexpected kill one night, or get a false clear on multiple members of their team.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Being right in town is default being right on scum. It is requiring the same thought process and the same deductive skills 5:7 is a 71% and some decimals success rate. In a game where you find ~24% to call out. Town hunting is just as, if not more, valuable as scum hunting in figuring out a game of mafia, so yes degrade that more. It makes you look soooo good.

[Jaqen Hghar]

And it's not arrogance. It's a track record. I said I could be wrong even while saying it. But I'll still go off my track record any game. Even if I was completely off here. There be games like that.

[Cerberus v666]

Being right in town is default being right on scum. It is requiring the same thought process and the same deductive skills 5:7 is a 71% and some decimals success rate. In a game where you find ~24% to call out. Town hunting is just as, if not more, valuable as scum hunting in figuring out a game of mafia, so yes degrade that more. It makes you look soooo good.

I'm not degrading that. I'm pointing out that the reason you were being made fun of is because you chose to say you always find 1-2 scum day 1, and that hasn't proven to be true. No matter how you look at it, the statement to you made has been proven wrong in this game, which is fine. The arrogance came from the certainty that your track record somehow meant you were definitely right in this case, not from the track record itself. AND that's the last time I'll speak on that subject, we can argue about it in post game or the dead thread if we both end up there.

Can you please explain the part of your statement that I'm confused about in my previous post?