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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:30 pm
by hiplop
We're both players with strong scum games.
Ive only got lynched as town in the past long time. (Or even close). Look at midsummer to here. Midsummer people were putting as as their top town read while here we are consistently in the bottom
That is a sign that BOTH of us (mostly hip) have a hard time "obvtowning " themselves as town.
I STILL think the skybird flip was a fluke. That is the same behavior skybird shows frequently. Do you think I'd still be pushing this now as scum? How hard do you think I defend? Past their lifepsan? No, I defend if they can be a strategic benefit. Not if they are the obvious Lynch that will line up to me dying
Also can we as a town finally agree tht confirmation of role =/= alignment? You claiming does not make you town etc etc
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:35 pm
by Marquis
i am also really really obviously town, have been even before I helped bring attention unnecessarily back onto scum, and i think you've been playing a scumgame from a static viewpoint formed prior to the skybird scumlynch. where town necessarily recognizes that something happened that may affect how they view the game associatively, scum often feels trapped between how to perform reevaluation and how to maintain read "consistency" and that can lead to the kind of "wtf aren't we over this already" reads you guys are wielding here.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:38 pm
by Friendless Seniors
↑ hiplop wrote:We're both players with strong scum games.
Ive only got lynched as town in the past long time. (Or even close). Look at midsummer to here. Midsummer people were putting as as their top town read while here we are consistently in the bottom
That is a sign that BOTH of us (mostly hip) have a hard time "obvtowning " themselves as town.
I STILL think the skybird flip was a fluke. That is the same behavior skybird shows frequently. Do you think I'd still be pushing this now as scum? How hard do you think I defend? Past their lifepsan? No, I defend if they can be a strategic benefit. Not if they are the obvious Lynch that will line up to me dying
Also can we as a town finally agree tht confirmation of role =/= alignment? You claiming does not make you town etc etc
Pickup
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:38 pm
by Marquis
disagree on skybird because i still compared the meta then too but it's irrelevant and your self awareness does nothing for me, sorry :(
i'll be back eventually but i really do want you guys to be town but i'm absolutely not seeing it and that's a red flag for me. it's different from just "everything you do is scummy", it's not-quite-but-a-bit-closer-to "nothing you do is as reasonably towny as i've come to expect seeing by now"
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:41 pm
by Friendless Seniors
We've reevaluated a ton? I've seen skybird mislynched or close to it like 6 times. Not wavering there, but so what. We've reevaluated our reads based on it
Pedit: yea, you've played with me and seen me get mislynched for that reason. It happens to me as town all the fucking time. I get good reads and get lynched and ignored.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:41 pm
by Friendless Seniors
Note: tictac being our concern over tpp.
Like what the fuck is our scum intent behind ANYTHInG Marquis? I think you're caught up on trying to catch up rather than understand us
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:44 pm
by Friendless Seniors
Axel/tictac/tpp/dave/TPP/podo?
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:45 pm
by Friendless Seniors
Only scummy thing wevee done is not put in our action. We did it to mirhawk anywya so it shouldn't matter.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:45 pm
by True Ogre
I don't think tictac was scum. A lot of his good content was in the coloured-quote responses. You should go back and read it if you're actually trying to figure out the game.
Besides, Flubbernugget's here now and when a slot replaces you have a chance to reinforce or update your read. You haven't done that.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:45 am
by True Ogre
Also dave's been cleared by Marquis so I'd like to hear about your theory that he's a Godfather if that's where you're going.
Incidentally, what have your feelings on Cakes been throughout the game?
And why is Cerberus town to you?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:46 am
by True Ogre
And you have Piper in there twice so eghhh.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:48 am
by True Ogre
I think I'm hyperfocusing on it now but anyway, one more thing
(yes, True Ogre does a spectacular Columbo impression...)
If you're saying that you're aware that both you and hiplop find it hard to obvtown, why is that basically your only "town-play"?
Like you're obviously not really reading the game.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:02 am
by itlepip
Also for the record I would like to disagree with everything FS said. They were never being super townread in Midsummer's and had a decent chance of dying d1/d2 until after shenanigans happened. The other thing is that I have gotten strong townreads on hippy plently of times and never this game.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:23 am
by Axelrod
phone posting since computer is still on the fritz.
Marquis, since you keep throwing my name out there as someone you would vote for, can I ask if there is something specific you are having a problem with? All I seem to remember you saying is something along the lines of you thought it looked like I was trying too hard.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:55 am
by SirCakez
Podo coming in, asking why FS hasn't been lynched, and ditching out actually feels really terrible now. He's basically coasting now and his contributions today are lackluster. I could wagon there.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:08 am
by Axelrod
it was that line about posts that reek of effort concealing motivation
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:45 am
by Dwlee99
We have a ton of investigatives claimed. TPP is softing yet another. ~bleh~
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:53 am
by SirCakez
Two investigatives = a ton?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:54 am
by Dwlee99
other people have softed results as well, iirc
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:55 am
by Dwlee99
i cant even remember what my thought process was at this point =_=
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:43 am
by Flubbernugget
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:
You compared day 1 play where I was tunelled by the entire game to.this one?
I don't think you were tunneled as hard as you think you were
Even then I don't see how that's relevant
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:51 am
by Flubbernugget
I'm not okay with fs only being able to respond to Marquis
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:52 am
by SirCakez
There's been one soft from TPP. I can't remember any others.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:20 am
by podoboq
↑ SirCakez wrote:Podo coming in, asking why FS hasn't been lynched, and ditching out actually feels really terrible now. He's basically coasting now and his contributions today are lackluster. I could wagon there.
I'm coasting because it was my finals week. I had lots of capstone to prepare for, and lots of capstone posters to print, because I work at
the school's
printing studio. This was hell week.
I've skimmed everything of the day, but just haven't had time to put together a post that I wanted to post. That last one against FS was a proddodge more than anything. I'm finally free, all the rigamaroll of school is done as of last night, and I can get to responding in depth to some stuff. Will build posts today, when I can work up the energy to dig into them.
I'll start with this: TPP is only slightly suspicious because of her implied reads. We have, like, three actual claimed PRs. Just give us your damn information and let us move on with it, or don't soft so that you aren't a target. We might have a solved game. The only reason I can think to vote anywhere other than FS is on TPP because I want her to just say what she is and what she knows, and a vote is the only way I can think to put that pressure on.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:20 am
by podoboq
↑ SirCakez wrote:Podo coming in, asking why FS hasn't been lynched, and ditching out actually feels really terrible now. He's basically coasting now and his contributions today are lackluster. I could wagon there.
I'm coasting because it was my finals week. I had lots of capstone to prepare for, and lots of capstone posters to print, because I work at
the school's
printing studio. This was hell week.
I've skimmed everything of the day, but just haven't had time to put together a post that I wanted to post. That last one against FS was a proddodge more than anything. I'm finally free, all the rigamaroll of school is done as of last night, and I can get to responding in depth to some stuff. Will build posts today, when I can work up the energy to dig into them.
I'll start with this: TPP is only slightly suspicious because of her implied reads. We have, like, three actual claimed PRs. Just give us your damn information and let us move on with it, or don't soft so that you aren't a target. We might have a solved game. The only reason I can think to vote anywhere other than FS is on TPP because I want her to just say what she is and what she knows, and a vote is the only way I can think to put that pressure on.