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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:22 am
by Dwlee99
Andres find the evildoer thanks. Be Nero pt 2
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:24 am
by Andresvmb
In post 3888, Dwlee99 wrote:Titus I can totally see you being town here especially given the FIA WRC game that just ended I'm just like, confused kind of. And my biggest fear here is that the reason I keep getting into these mental ruts is a false assumption on my town reads.
This is the sort of thing that pings me. And it’s the kind of post you need to be super careful about. It’s I’m voting Scum, look at me, but maybe if the Town moves in a different direction, I can rely on this type of reasoning to move away and vote elsewhere. Show me where I gave Titus even a remote opening like this.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:25 am
by Andresvmb
But I mean yeah DW has made a lot of correct decisions. So of course this isn’t going to be easy. But you all that just think oh Chaos said they couldn’t understand why Titus was a wagon yesterday, should yeet - I mean, maybe it’s that easy. But someone needs to offer alternatives and try and figure out if we’re going wrong or not.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:26 am
by Dwlee99
You should look at FIA WRC that just ended where I feel like she was doing the exact same thing later in the game. We had her caught early and shouldn't have let that go but instead she made it to D4 where she was just lurking and posting random stuff and we were okay with it.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:26 am
by Dwlee99
I mean in this game we let her get away with it, there she was town with a clear on her.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:27 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3988, Dwlee99 wrote:Also just to comment on people scumreading me I feel like my interactions with flipped scum are very indicative of my alignment:
1.) Titus pushed me in the Me/Peta 1v1
2.) Nero caught nom trying to push me for terrible reasons
3.) I took VFP's side in the VFP/Nom 1v1
4.) I pushed through the elimination on Osuka over Anya
5.) While scum doubted Cyrus' claim, I believed it and not only said he was definitely town, suggested policy eliminating Titus to turn Cyrus into a vigilante
6.) Killed Titus yesterday over looking to eliminate Gamma
Like what do you think of this list?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:28 am
by Andresvmb
In post 4004, Dwlee99 wrote:I mean in this game we let her get away with it, there she was town with a clear on her.
We didn’t let her get away with it - she’s been executed.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:31 am
by Dwlee99
We let her live to D4 and killed Anya over her. That's as getting away with it as we can get.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:33 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3985, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm confused why scum killed t3 of all people. Like, even if the PT cop cleared the slot wouldn't killing DotW be better there?
The main reason I can conceive is scum want to keep him around to push me
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:34 am
by Dwlee99
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:46 am
by Andresvmb
This vote is bothering me. You tied the wagons here.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:49 am
by Dwlee99
I unvote on the same page my guy
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:49 am
by Andresvmb
In post 3863, Dwlee99 wrote:UNVOTE:
Well she fell for it enough to act like it was real and say she was town
In post 3864, Dwlee99 wrote:And she was E-2 before T3's attempt at double voting. Also I knew t3 wanted me to do that.
This sequence is dreadful.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:50 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3867, Dwlee99 wrote:I agree her response is more likely to come from scum here because she didn't do any "here are my reads" or town spew etc.
Pedit: thought he was voting Andres before unvoting?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:50 am
by Andresvmb
It looks like a planned attempt at getting people to unvote by manufacturing a hammer.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:52 am
by Dwlee99
Except I said I thought she was scummy for it.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:53 am
by Andresvmb
Only after VFP suggested it.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:55 am
by Andresvmb
In post 3876, ChaosOmega wrote:She was at E-2, no real danger of a quick lim. His pivot after your post VFP looks like trying to cater to you. If you would have said it made Titus look town Dwlee would agree with that as well.
Chaos I think has it right in this post to be honest.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:56 am
by Andresvmb
Look I would nuke {Chaos, DW}. I’m never voting VFP or Kyouko or STD. And Gamma will sort itself out.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:56 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3877, Dwlee99 wrote:
I thought that Titus was at E-1 with my vote which is why I unvoted.
In post 3879, Dwlee99 wrote:There isn't a strong reason to or not to when I'm clearly okay with yeeting her today.
In post 3881, ChaosOmega wrote: In post 3879, Dwlee99 wrote:There isn't a strong reason to or not to when I'm clearly okay with yeeting her today.
Maybe you can explain it for me then. Why is Titus a good lim today?
In post 3882, Dwlee99 wrote:Nero night kill, defense of nom, pushing the "neighbors," at the beginning of the game pushing the me vs Peta TvT fight, all of the reasons Nero/Peta/Anya were pushing Titus day 1/2/3, play being uninspiring, townread on Osuka and Vax (vax may have fluctuated between null and town I think I need to check), early aligning with the "masons," there is a lot there on rereading parts of day one and two.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:57 am
by Andresvmb
DotW of course is mechanical.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:59 am
by Andresvmb
In post 4019, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 3877, Dwlee99 wrote:
I thought that Titus was at E-1 with my vote which is why I unvoted.
In post 3879, Dwlee99 wrote:There isn't a strong reason to or not to when I'm clearly okay with yeeting her today.
In post 3881, ChaosOmega wrote: In post 3879, Dwlee99 wrote:There isn't a strong reason to or not to when I'm clearly okay with yeeting her today.
Maybe you can explain it for me then. Why is Titus a good lim today?
In post 3882, Dwlee99 wrote:Nero night kill, defense of nom, pushing the "neighbors," at the beginning of the game pushing the me vs Peta TvT fight, all of the reasons Nero/Peta/Anya were pushing Titus day 1/2/3, play being uninspiring, townread on Osuka and Vax (vax may have fluctuated between null and town I think I need to check), early aligning with the "masons," there is a lot there on rereading parts of day one and two.
You were answering a direct question, and in retrospect Chaos looks bad. But they were pursuing you. Distancing at that stage with Titus under pressure for two days makes sense. STD voted Titus early for example. VFP has too many interactions that don’t make sense from Scum. Hell, around ~#1,800, I called Titus Scum. I think that’s far stronger than some of the things you’re pointing to for yourself. But yeah I don’t know maybe I’m wrong and it’s just Chaos. Like I said, someone needs to play Devil’s advocate every now and then.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:01 am
by Andresvmb
I suggest we nuke amongst {Chaos, DW}, Gamma checks the other slot, and we see what happens.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:01 am
by Dwlee99
I listed 6 nice ways my interactions make no sense if I'm scum and that is the post from me you ignored.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:02 am
by Andresvmb
But honestly? I don’t think my voice is going to carry too far here so I am also happy letting {STD, VFP, Kyouko} agree on an execution and I’ll vote there.