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In post 3998, petapan wrote:i feel like i'm not in a place to even evaluate that slot right now but harley's posting is doing herself no favors

In post 4001, petapan wrote:why would i, i assume you're competent enough to work your way into the game at your own pace

In post 4002, Harley Quinn wrote:So what I’ve got so far is they’re are two teams, pink and blue buy I’m trying to find the posr that explains how they got choses.

In post 3538, skitter30 wrote:

In post 3484, petapan wrote:how many scum do you think are in the pink room, skitter

Max 1, i would be shocked if there were more than that

I wanted peta, unwnd/nu-gamma, or saber. From the blue room i'm townreading gamma and cakez the most, and ydra/gypyx to a lesser extent.

My room was all over the place and i cant imagine a 6 person pt with 2+ scum being unable to cough up a 3 person wagon, which we were utterly unable to do

Also i am significantly more sus of taly after the pt, i would just like to say
Toog did look better in the pt too fwiw

@gammagooey i see ur question but realistically will not be able to get to it until tomorrow , just fyi

In post 4004, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 4002, Harley Quinn wrote:So what I’ve got so far is they’re are two teams, pink and blue buy I’m trying to find the posr that explains how they got choses.

the players who voted toog went in blue chat, everyone else went in pink chat.

In post 4003, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 4001, petapan wrote:why would i, i assume you're competent enough to work your way into the game at your own pace

We’re finally getting somewhere, you recognize that I’m so far incompetent. Thanks for the compliment.

In post 4005, Harley Quinn wrote:Sorry, the “jerk” thing was probably unwarrented.

In post 3984, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 3982, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 3980, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 3978, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 3976, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 3972, Harley Quinn wrote:Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that.

What’s your point in bringing that up?

???

Because it’s true?

Wut

What does it have to do with this game though?

Nothing, your point?

I recall thinking my partner was town this game, so it feels like you’re trying to discredit my judgment.

In post 3985, Gamma Emerald wrote:town THAT game

In post 3681, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 3605, Gamma Emerald wrote:Infinity Towncase

• She feels off her game here unfortunately, but in a way that I can probably reconcile as being town based in it happening before, in the True Love game we played a long way back.
  
• post 2102 feels more like scum knee-jerk reacting to a townie based on the "I TMI'd, where???" type vibe the post gives. 2104 is a clear indication Dunn thought infinity meant Dunn was TMI’ing in this game.
  
• Attempts to work through ulyana's early theory talk seem untainted by scum info
  
• initial interactions with prism were to kinda play devil's advocate, this alongside other progression points on that slot (namely going back and realizing she felt gypyx was sus after she'd looked at her idea that Prism wouldn’t have off meta on me with her townread on me in mind) feel indicative of infinity having real thoughts on the slot
  
• progression on me is she starts out thinking I'm in my townrange for wild thought processes, later realizes some of my content is stuff I could be faking as scum, and spends some time distrusting me until flipping her read back around like late-D1. That seems pretty reasonable for town!infinity, she probably doesn’t need to flip her read like she did as early as she did.
  
• The exact logic for the read flip I was able to parse out was that she liked that I wasn't just trying to keep the same tactic up and get away with it, which makes sense, as I feel like that's a common behavior for scum!me when under pressure is to just push the same bullshit, and the particular way I went about trying to dig out of my hole sideways (as opposed to digging straight down) is one I think is just generally towny.
  
• Has some pretty based takes that feel like she's not being manipulative (seeing ydra's town streak post as a joke, trying to correct me on my misinterpretation of cephrir's actions towards me)
  
• The flip to SRing gypyx does actually seem like there was some prelude in that infinity thought gypyx was maybe meta-manipulating, which would justify going back on the prism read a bit more.
  
• The "too many TRs" thing is something I can pretty much assure is a town!infinity thing at the very least. My exp with scum!finity is kinda limited though
  
• Infinity's point about dunn TMI-ing actually really clicks because I'd also felt Dunn said some eerily accurate stuff about the setup this game, so that makes the Dunn reaction even more of an anti-partner tell imo. Dunnstral just kinda misdirected the topic of conversation, otherwise infinity might have locked into pushing him harder.
  
• This only dawned on me when I posted about it before, but Infinity just dropping the idea of Dunn TMI would have been putting Dunn’s game at risk for little to no reason IMO. It’s my belief that Dunn was bleeding some level of scum knowledge about events. While Infinity was talking about something else, that post initially bringing up TMI was incredibly vague as to what the TMI was about. Someone with the right mindset and perspective seeing that would have locked on to that and immediately called for Dunn’s head. That’s basically giving someone else a free ticket to be obvtown, so why would scum!finity do that? The ONLY agenda I can comprehend that isn’t mired in WIFOM is there was an agreement to cut Dunn loose because he was bleeding to much info, in which case,
  why didn’t Infinity go in for the kill?
  
  
• 2316 definitely makes sense as a town response given what's happened since then, and considering their history.
  
• Infinity's bad pathing on reads this game can be partly explained by the phrase "distracted by the scummy", where she's focusing on actions that look bad in the moment while not entirely keying into what the actions entire mean/what scum motivation they serve. This is exemplified in 2349 where she calls out toog/dunn/saber/unwnd as weaker TRs she's skeptical of, and out of those she ends up putting Saber/unwnd in her lowest tier later on when she should have probably put toog/dunn there. This also kinda resembles how she played in the True Love game I've referenced.
  
• 2504 is a valid point, though I also kinda get what gypyx was presenting in what Infinity was responding to
  
• the way of heeding the words of those she trusts in 2535 is a towntell I think
  
• the whole progression of 2535 -> 2543 -> 2619 seems good
  
• response to ulyana's suspicion regarding the switch in secondary wagon didn't feel defensive
  
• I like the consistency in believing in Prism's read rate on me, though Prism's meta impression of me was totally off (she thought my scumplay hadn't developed over 5 years of playing, when it very much had, and infinity can attest to that because one of the games I floundered as scum in was one all 3 of us were in, and since then I've broken out of the box that my play was stuck in, as infinity kinda saw in haunted village I believe) so there's absolutely room for her to have been wrong as town!

So I guess I spent like 4 hours on this for nothing, huh?

In post 4008, petapan wrote:

In post 4003, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 4001, petapan wrote:why would i, i assume you're competent enough to work your way into the game at your own pace

We’re finally getting somewhere, you recognize that I’m so far incompetent. Thanks for the compliment.

In post 4005, Harley Quinn wrote:Sorry, the “jerk” thing was probably unwarrented.

i'm not offended

nor am i trying to come off as being a jerk i just believe that you'll be more readable if i don't spoonfeed you

In post 4010, SirCakez wrote:why does this game have 10+ new pages and the vote still hasn't started

In post 3703, petapan wrote:the fact is this is a game where some people are as part of the game lying and trying to manipulate others

to that end i have to have hard heart and not care when someone complains about their feelings or how i'm being unfair because they've been busy irl and didn't have the time. i did not care when galron cried about it even though i was probably wrong, i do not care when it comes to you. displays of emotionality and making excuses are only going to make me think people are falling back on that as a way of appearing vulnerable to make people want to be on their side. i care for none of it


i think the way you're reacting to me here is tantamount to a scumclaim

In post 4016, Taly wrote:

Cakez

, I don't like that you return to this thread knocking the only towncase presented on either nominee slot in the most handwavey manner possible.

In post 4012, SirCakez wrote:and you even admit in your opening that they feel off

In post 4015, SirCakez wrote:

In post 3703, petapan wrote:the fact is this is a game where some people are as part of the game lying and trying to manipulate others

to that end i have to have hard heart and not care when someone complains about their feelings or how i'm being unfair because they've been busy irl and didn't have the time. i did not care when galron cried about it even though i was probably wrong, i do not care when it comes to you. displays of emotionality and making excuses are only going to make me think people are falling back on that as a way of appearing vulnerable to make people want to be on their side. i care for none of it


i think the way you're reacting to me here is tantamount to a scumclaim

i disagree with this because when you were attacking me I felt very similarly. you can be ruder than necessary honestly.

SirCakez wrote:

In post 4016, Taly wrote:

Cakez

, I don't like that you return to this thread knocking the only towncase presented on either nominee slot in the most handwavey manner possible.

who cares? one of them is dying either way and I've made my stance on Infinity scum very clear

In post 3862, skitter30 wrote:

In post 3642, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay so very recently
Can I point out that aside from infinity herself, no one has said they’re voting peta? I’m also the only one who’s voted to abstain. And we’re worried about scum manipulation of the ballot

how exactly

?

i'm voting peta and think that something fuck-y happened in your pt for infinity to be the nom now when it doesn't seem like that many people are scumreading them anyways