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In post 4022, Kagami wrote:You're saying gif told you people wouldn't know if they have stuff to steal. GCBC says that gif has told him he has nothing to steal. <- I believe this is the contradiction you were pointing out.

It is, but then you said there wasn't one?

- Des

In post 4023, bubbajack8 wrote:Uh I got a response from Gif saying my item can't be stolen so you're full of BS.

Your item is relevant to your role. We don't steal items relevant to role, we steal items relevant to flavor that the player is unaware of.

- Des

In post 4025, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 4022, Kagami wrote:You're saying gif told you people wouldn't know if they have stuff to steal. GCBC says that gif has told him he has nothing to steal. <- I believe this is the contradiction you were pointing out.

It is, but then you said there wasn't one?

- Des

There isn't one, because yukari told me clearly that if I had asked if a specific item can be stolen from me, she would answer. This confirms any reasonable interpretation of GCBC's statement.

Your statement, that people wouldn't know if they have stuff to steal does not conflict with this, because people clearly don't know if they have stuff that can be stolen, hence the need to ask GiF in the first place.

Maybe you can steal my little hat star? I don't know. I only know that I can ask GiF and receive an answer. I see that there's an apparent contradiction, but it's not a real contradiction.

In post 4027, Kagami wrote:There isn't one, because yukari told me clearly that if I had asked if a specific item can be stolen from me, she would answer. This confirms any reasonable interpretation of GCBC's statement.

No, GCBC stated that the mod confirmed they don't have any item to steal at all. How would you specifically ask if an item can be stolen if you don't know it exists?

- Des

I suspect I know how, but I'll let GCBC address that.

You'll have to wait a bit until I'm at home where I can pull the Skype logs for the exact wording of the Q and A.

In the meantime, though, I wanted to point out that Giffy seems to have copy pasted parts of the setup from bork and cephrir's themes.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=28572
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30724
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31053

Note the one-shot scum vig in FE:A.

In post 4026, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 4023, bubbajack8 wrote:Uh I got a response from Gif saying my item can't be stolen so you're full of BS.

Your item is relevant to your role. We don't steal items relevant to role, we steal items relevant to flavor that the player is unaware of.

- Des

Sooo why didn't you clarify this earlier?

In post 4032, bubbajack8 wrote: Sooo why didn't you clarify this earlier?

Because there was nothing to clarify? Your situation was ambiguous and there was nothing to gain from revealing the information at that time.

- Des

In post 4032, bubbajack8 wrote: Sooo why didn't you clarify this earlier?

Because there was nothing to clarify? Your situation was ambiguous and there was nothing to gain from revealing the information at that time.

- Des

UNVOTE:

Not happy with Saki wagon.
Not happy with this game.
Scumbutts.

In post 3982, Saki wrote:

In post 3977, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Saki is probably scum, if not groupscum, then here lies the probably serial killer. His play has been incredibly lazy and distractin a la FEA. If you are by some miracle town, Saki, then you need to play less like Saki and mroe like Nsin. And quickly.

This is a total lie.
Read my play in FEA and compare it to say, Xenogears or LOTR.

Go back to voting GCBC guys.
Mislynching based off of faulty meta is Cabd's specialty.

In post 4037, Saki wrote:

In post 3982, Saki wrote:

In post 3977, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Saki is probably scum, if not groupscum, then here lies the probably serial killer. His play has been incredibly lazy and distractin a la FEA. If you are by some miracle town, Saki, then you need to play less like Saki and mroe like Nsin. And quickly.

This is a total lie.
Read my play in FEA and compare it to say, Xenogears or LOTR.

Go back to voting GCBC guys.
Mislynching based off of faulty meta is Cabd's specialty.

And you have proof of this elsewhere?

In post 4039, bubbajack8 wrote:

In post 4037, Saki wrote:

In post 3982, Saki wrote:

In post 3977, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Saki is probably scum, if not groupscum, then here lies the probably serial killer. His play has been incredibly lazy and distractin a la FEA. If you are by some miracle town, Saki, then you need to play less like Saki and mroe like Nsin. And quickly.

This is a total lie.
Read my play in FEA and compare it to say, Xenogears or LOTR.

Go back to voting GCBC guys.
Mislynching based off of faulty meta is Cabd's specialty.

And you have proof of this elsewhere?

In post 2622, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:

In post 2615, Varsoon wrote:

In post 2612, Jaqen Hghar wrote:GCBC, do you find it odd, as a man does, that Kat should single out Serene the victim of a vigilante vile? Why not Kaze? Why not either/or? Oddly specific a man thinks.

This. Weren't the kills identical?

Do I find it odd? Absolutely.

Did I just finish a scumgame where I used this as a "slip" to push a mislynch on a player? Absolutely.

It's hardly a true slip to me, but I will grant you it's worrying somewhat. I'll see what hawkie makes of it on the morrow.

By a boy's own words...

That's not related to a players meta.

In post 4041, bubbajack8 wrote:That's not related to a players meta.

A boy uses a player's meta to set up mislynches as scum. It is known. If Patchface is so unwilling to work with town, he can go back under the waves with the starfishes and sea horses to find it for himself (I know, I know, oh, oh, oh!)

Besides, using ones own meta in reverse to clear another player's dubious actions is faulty use of meta. In this case to clear a likely scum partner. So a man asks, how is that so very different from what you asked?

"Did I just finish a scumgame where I used this as a "slip" to push a mislynch on a player? Absolutely."

Is not about him using faulty meta. It's him using player deaths to set up a mislynch.

My actions were not dubious, you're making wild illogical assumptions to justify your stupid reads that will obviously flip wrong.

bubba, we are all reading the same thing and it's pretty fucking obvious what Lush hydra wanted done. Our only defense right now is that a lot of people are claiming and we're trying to see if the pieces of the puzzle fit. Game slowed down because we stopped at a point where we can't seem to resolve anything.

From what I recall Muffin was tittering the bounds of an L-1 when I decided to give it some time for discussion (which I highly regret now). If I recall correctly as well your vote was in that early Muffin wagon so you read the exact same thing that Lush posted and came to the same conclusion that he and everyone else on that wagon did. After all the resolution everyone backed down because Muffin claimed tracker who tracked two targets that who were also under no suspicion whatsoever. To track a somewhat inactive player who is a shaky read (Dramonic) and the claimed Oracle who partook in the counterwagon to lynch the first scum and was already pushing for the CoK wagon the claim happened is just a save-ass claim.

ActioDan, how many shots do you have left on your ability/how many did you have to begin with

In post 4047, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:ActioDan, how many shots do you have left on your ability/how many did you have to begin with

-_-

GCBC, tell me what you think about muffin's tracks. Let's assume he's scum.