I kinda had a weak town gutread on you while reading the thread, but nothing worth commenting on. Then people started calling you scum around the time of the end of my readthrough. So I put you in NULL because I wanted to read your iso before I made a decision. When I read your iso, it did seem like you were active but not scumhunting (similar to what some people were alluding to). I think I had been weakly townreading you because your style is pretty light/breezy. So then I put you in scum. Your noise/signal ratio was unusually high, so I put you lower on the list. I've never played with you haven't meta'd you yet.
Read that slowly, Iecerint is dong that thing again.
kinda weak
nothing worth commenting
put you in null
seem like you were active / not scumhunting
I think was weakly townreading
SO THEN I PUT YOU IN SCUM
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:09 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Iecerint also has a large proportion of posts asking questions, but not following through and IIoA (are we still using this acronym?).
NB: Iecerint's comment about phantom jesters was sarcasm, I now see, so scratch that.
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:21 pm
by Grendel
Reads in each category are in no particular order.
Town
pisskop
NoPowerOverMe
Galron
Town lean
davesaz
Gamma Emerald
a2rudeboy
Have looked into some but still unsure
chkflip
Iecerint
DrippingGoofball
Null: Havent looked into
Doctor Drew
Starbuck
Almost50
PookyTheMagicalBear
Bambi Jay
BrightEyedFish
Scum
TiphaineDeath
Lavender
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Im unhappy at what a WIP this list is, but its where im at rn. I can elaborate on some of these when i come back tomarrow evening.
thanks for partipating in my idea of optimal play here.
It was kinda stupid of me to try and step up in some kinda leader position in a roster full of overly independent vets. Most likely my motion is going to be ignored here on out. x.x
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Thanks for your casing on Icendant so far DGB, Ill read over it agian tomorrow with a pair of fresh eyes.
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:33 pm
by davesaz
DGB - I can easily see you've been saying you scumread Iecerint for ages. Why this timing on making a case?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:44 pm
by TiphaineDeath
Ahahahah, oh god, do you see that readslist by Grendel? Can you be more "I want to be able to be on any wagon today and not look bad for it"? Is it possible?
Me, Lav(As a scum read, not just a lurker read, cool story bro), Icerint, and DGB, all as viable votes?
Holy crap, forget the rest of this. That fencepost was lodged so firmly between your buttcheeks I HAVE to vote you for it. VOTE: grendel. Sorry gamma, this ones scum.
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:21 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
The lack of questioning between DGB-TD-Dave almost makes me sure that at least two out of those three are scum. They are avoiding each other like the plague.
Not Voting (5): Lavender, NoPowerOverMe, davesaz, Almost50, BrightEyedFish
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:41 pm
by BrightEyedFish
VOTE: TiphaineDeath
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:49 pm
by chkflip
TRUST IN THE PADDLE, BEF.
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:27 pm
by BrightEyedFish
VOTE: Grendel
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:41 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 4002, Grendel wrote:I think the easiest solution is if in everybody's next post we out a pool of up to three players we are willing to flip, and then place a vote on one of them.
After a certain point i think town's EoD options should become more straight forward, and we can make a more educated choice with fewer players vs a rushed decision with too many players on the choppping block.
DGB is a potential 3rd as the town vibes I had are dissipating. I want to look at a few other things first before I say yay, or nay, there.
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VOTE: Lavender
I actually think Grendel’s townier at least for what he’s attempting to do. He sometimes will do stuff to drive the game around RVS timeframe, but this reminds me of when I got frustrated in Team Mafia White Flag and decided to do something to move the game along. I’ll admit the reads do look easy, though. Thing is my pool’s about the same, exception being that instead of just having DGB I have one of DGB and Iecerint based on whether the Iecerint case both convinces me Iecerint is scum and his meta isn’t viable
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:44 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 4005, DrippingGoofball wrote:Iecerint has been very cagey with his reads, he has given reads and opinions on a very limited number of players. In fact, he has been reading so few players that he added himself
I acknowledge this, and the fact he had that asstastic read list D1 and still has no reads is bad
Yeah my pool rn is (Lav, TD, Iec) despite not yet seeing why Iec’s DGB meta isn’t accurate
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:53 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4029, davesaz wrote:DGB - I can easily see you've been saying you scumread Iecerint for ages. Why this timing on making a case?
It took me a long time to make that case, Iecerint is not an amateur, making a case requires attention to detail and I didn't have the bloc of time to do it at the desktop.
I was hoping that people would pay more attention to him and see what I see on their own too, it wpuld have re-assured me that I am on the right track.
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:02 am
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Iecerint
If we’re concerned about misexe’ing LHF this is probably the best wagon option. I had issues with the slot early, and they never really got resolved, I only forgot about pushing the slot. Those reasons I initially disliked Iecerint also tie into what DGB was pushing in her case on him. We’ve been focused on the obvious targets so long it’s become hard to focus on the people who’re operating outside the bound of obvious suspicion.
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:11 am
by DrippingGoofball
Yeah my pool rn is (Lav, TD, Iec) despite not yet seeing why Iec’s DGB meta isn’t accurate
Meta is trash, and Iecerint's is a prime example.
He wrote a whole shebang about our personal connection from attending meetups, and theorized that I FEEL GUILTY.
I was not joking when I wrote that he his projecting his own guilt, because *he* rolled scum. That whole thing was about me, not him.
Everyone is different, but to me, mafia is comedy, and you all signed up for me to lie to you if I roll scum when you signed up for the game. Consensual sociopathic theater, if you will.
All of his so-called meta is conjecture about how I would and should behave in vague, nebulous, unrealistically simple situations. How would he know, when I don't even know myself? It's laughable.
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:12 am
by Gamma Emerald
okey
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:28 am
by The Baker
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:04 am
by a2rudeboy
VOTE: iec
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:16 am
by BrightEyedFish
VOTE: Iec
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:39 am
by chkflip
mmmmmMMMMMMMMMMM [/anger]
Yeah aight, this ties in with Grendel actually.
VOTE: Iecerint
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:02 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I do not think DGB and Iecerint are both scum. I am more inclined to scumread DGB at this point.
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:14 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4048, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I do not think DGB and Iecerint are both scum. I am more inclined to scumread DGB at this point.