Alright so how about we first go over noraas non sense read and stance towards shelly:
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73: claims the probability of shelly rolling scum again is low
143: reacts to shellys push on her. Does not really take a stance on her push.
167: questions shelly standing up for mini. Says she might have found "two scums" this round (has not called shelly scum before this and does not vote on either player)
179: tries to push the idea of shelly/mini again when a TR is given on shelly.
210: responds to shellys meta read on her - says she has no finished town games
213: calls shellys reasoning bad
215: says what shelly just said looks bad
- While she never states that she is scumreading shelly at this point, she definitely seems to be suggesting the slot is suspicious
then people begin to question shelly and Jester/hectic pushes shelly as scum:
513: out of nowhere noraa decides to comment on shelly of all players with a really weird comment: "
Oh also one other thing before I go to bed. I wanna put a word in my my ex scum partner. Shelly plays a good scum game imo and if she's doing anything really scummy here(I haven't caught up yet so im not quite too sure if this applies), I would assume she's just playing a weird asf town game. Idk but that's my view on that after being her scum partner once and shallow meta diving her a bit afterwards
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752: says shelly plays strange and that she does not understand her line of thinking ever. Says that shelly will be on her null list for a long time because she has a hard time figuring her out
966: i just remembered noraa mixes me and bugspray up here. More interesting is that she at this points claims shelly hasnt done anything alignment indicative so far.
approx from #966-#1017: some weird interactions between them, resulting in talk about signature and whatnot
- so what happened here is that while she initially seem to have scumread shelly the immediately backs down as soon as players begin to push on her
then shelly starts to push on Jackson insead:
1042: noraa calls out shellys push on jackson because she think it is suspicious for shelly to start a new wagon now that a wagon on Saudade is piling up. She pushes for a shelly/saudade scum team.
1047: Now she suddenly has a scumread on shelly but not on saudade. We know Saudade was town, we know she tried to push the idea that shelly was scum because of trying to "save" the wagon on Saudade.
We also know that she doesnt think shelly has done "anything alignment indicative" until this, so it makes no sense for her to push shelly as scum while not putting Saudade there as the read would have to be based on Saudade being scum.
1068: she says she believe the scum team from most scummy to least scummy is from redados > shelly > norwee/bugspray
- Okay so now she seems to be scumreading shelly again for very weird and illogical reasoning
but then this happens:
1161: she questions mundivore's vote on shelly and seems to be trying to defend shelly against a Mundivore's meta read on her.
1259,
1261,
1263,
1264,
1266,
1271: noraa goes out of her way to argue against the notion that her and shelly could ever be scum, she even tries to put a very slight townlean on redados for saying that they could not be together because she think its "townie" to believe that (?) (I also think this is very interesting is because she seems to be trying to entertain the idea that redados is more town but for that to make sense the natural vote for her would be on shelly, so for no apparent reason she throws this away pretty much immediately adn just goes back to "red so scummy")
1309: she pushes the idea that shelly and redados are the scum team and that they are the two most sus players
1340: norwee then votes on shelly; but then noraa questions it? she says she doesnt know and that shelly gives off scummy vibes no matter her alignment and she doesnt know what to think of her, while also in the very same post saying a post of her is something she did as scum in another game
and a bonus:
1483: shelly has called noraa scum all game long, but then her puts her at the bottom of her lim order. She never explained why and even when noraa asked about she responded to everything else noraa said but this reason being there was no logical or good explanation for this.
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So what this shows is that noraa kept calling shelly scum when it was easy to do, but every time it people began to push shelly she started to question the push and defend it. She never once voted on her scum read and even at one point when she was cornering herself into shelly being her top scum she decided to go back on the slight townlead she had just given to justify voting on red over shelly.
She kept going back and forth between scumreading shelly only to null read her because "she hasnt done anything alignment indicative" and so on when people actually pushed on her.
Ironically shelly did the exact same thing - the pushed on noraa all day long but then when it started mattering (closer to deadline, had to settle on wagons) she put her at the bottom of her lim order for no reason whatsoever.
What makes Noraa's behaviour towards shelly even more indicative of being a scum pair is noraa's meta.
I just finished a game with her where she was scum where I ironically referred to the doggos game where she was scum with shelly for a very specific reason; because in the doggos game, in the game we jsut finished (mafiasunny) and in this game she is doing the exact same thing to her partner in all of them: throws shade at them when it matters yet always finds a reason not to vote and always try to carefully question the push on them. She always tries to find a way to justify not voting on someone she is scumreading.