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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:07 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 3955, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3818, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 3760, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yep my action didn't fail. I targeted Cat Scratch Fever and noone targeted them. Killer is a ninja.

DoTW how do you know I had a result rather than a fail?
I didn't, just said I wanted to see if you had results. If you did, it makes the possibility of DGB being roleblocked or DGBs target being rolestopped more likely. I'm pretty sure DGB wouldn't get roleblocked N4 after not being roleblocked N3, though. So an unlikely rolestop would be the only way for DGB to get a false guilty
I think you're confusing something with another. Rolestopper does NOT affect it's target's actions. It prevents all other actions ON them.
No, I was saying if the rolestopper was on the person DGB targeted, OR the roleblocker targeted DGB

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:07 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 3937, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3922, Dragon of the West wrote:If this is your guilty and it's not a fake guilty because of a RB or RS, I am incredibly happy lmao
VOTE: CheekyTeeky
I think this is the happiest I've seen you the entire game lol.
Not gonna lie, I've been getting increasingly frustrated with your ideas on the gamestate and seemingly incorrect mech talk that I'll just feel so much better about if you aren't town. Best explanation there could be because otherwise you've appeared really well-spoken(written?) and seeing you seemingly will yourself to ignorance was maddening. Also, it would be really validating for when I said something about you being scum ~D2 and you reacting poorly

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:08 am
by Nero Cain
In post 4012, Nero Cain wrote:I feel like doc + bg makes a ton of sense with a strongman. Could maybe see a jk thrown in here to mess with mine and dgbs actions
I think this feels balanced assuming no other pr claims. It just seems unbalanced bc scum have gotten mostly steamrolled.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:10 am
by Almost50
In post 4018, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 4016, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3980, ArcAngel9 wrote:There is no fucking way that town can have both doctor and Jail Keeper.
VOTE: Arc

Actually there is no fucking way Town has both a BODYGUARD & DOCTOR (circular pretection dilemma). Thanks for claiming SCUM.
Can we just kill Roden
Sure. Whichever.

VOTE: Roden

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:10 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 3957, DrippingGoofball wrote:Stop stop stop

It was a gambit
Fuck, okay I'll have to read everything after work

VOTE: Unvote

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:12 am
by Nero Cain
Omfg!!!

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:16 am
by Almost50
In post 4020, Nero Cain wrote:Lol town doc and town bg make perfect sense to me
Really?? Then the wiki must be wrong.

As always, including multiple protective roles in the game can lead to broken role combinations. Doctor+Bodyguard can lead to circular protections, as can Bodyguard+Bodyguard. If you are going to include these combinations in your game, make sure you specify how they work - presumably in a way that does not allow them to cross-protect successfully.
(From Bodyguard wiki page, under Use & Balance)

Also from the DOCTOR wiki page (again, under Use & Balance)

It is very important when including a Doctor in a game to check for broken combinations arising from its synergy with other power roles. Follow the Cop, for instance, arises when it is known in advance that there is a Cop and a Doctor in the game. Another broken combination involves two Doctors in the same setup; they can protect each other each Night and thus become immune to kills for the rest of the game. Because of this, full Doctors have fallen out of vogue in favour of Jailkeepers, modified Doctors, or simply not including a protective role at all.

It is not unheard of for Mafia to have Doctors of their own in games with Vigilantes, Serial Killers, or even rival Mafia factions. Their power is about the same in practice as that of standalone Town Doctors. Note. however, that in typical flavours, Mafia Doctors do not have guns, and therefore act as Godfathers to Gunsmiths.


So, either you are right, or the wiki is. Who do you think Isis & NSG are more likely to follow?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:19 am
by Nero Cain
U do know that a strongman negates doc protection right?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:19 am
by Almost50
In post 4021, Nero Cain wrote:Scum have a strongman, it negates the doc
And what if you targeted Roden N1?? He eats rope on D2. Then??

The solution is NOT to give Scum Strongman here. It's to make the Doctor INDECISIVE

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:26 am
by Nero Cain
Ok w/e man roden is a strongman and I think cheeky is most likely the last scum. If you or her were like a traitor or something then this game ends on a cheeky flip

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:38 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4010, Gamma Emerald wrote:A50 claimed the have JKed Nero N2
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh :cool:

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:39 am
by Almost50
In post 4033, Almost50 wrote:
In post 4021, Nero Cain wrote:Scum have a strongman, it negates the doc
And what if you targeted Roden N1?? He eats rope on D2. Then??

The solution is NOT to give Scum Strongman here. It's to make the Doctor INDECISIVE
Actually there are other ways around it. like making one of them Macho or Ascetic. Anything that makes it impossible for them to simultaneously target each other. In fact the Indecisive solution is the most pro-Town one since it allows them being on each other for "half the game", while Macho/Ascetic should prevent that from ever happening

But -as you said- whatever. I am already voting Roden so it's cool

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:40 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4023, Nero Cain wrote:I wonder if it's ever been this hard to kill a gulity result
We're dealing with competing guilties LOL

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:41 am
by Dwlee99
I bet N2 A50 jailkept DGB, which is why Nero was able to get a result.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:42 am
by Nero Cain
I mean, not really

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:42 am
by Almost50
In post 4035, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4010, Gamma Emerald wrote:A50 claimed the have JKed Nero N2
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh :cool:
Don't worry about it. There are 10 players alive with presumably 2 scums left. Roden is one and the other is in me/Arc/Cheeky 100%, so it's in the bag even if we go with the 2 mislims first.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:45 am
by Nero Cain
The only gulity is on roden. If u wanna say that a50 is scum bc he might be lying about his actions or that arc is scum bc she refuses to vote a guilty then fine

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:46 am
by Nero Cain
What a50 said

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:48 am
by Almost50
In post 4038, Dwlee99 wrote:I bet N2 A50 jailkept DGB, which is why Nero was able to get a result.
Erm.. I think we will have a word or two about this post-game. This is all I can say for the time being.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:49 am
by Gamma Emerald
A50 perhaps JKed cheeky n2
that where the unexplained block is, not DGB (since Shrek flipped scum)

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:54 am
by Dwlee99
In post 4043, Almost50 wrote:
In post 4038, Dwlee99 wrote:I bet N2 A50 jailkept DGB, which is why Nero was able to get a result.
Erm.. I think we will have a word or two about this post-game. This is all I can say for the time being.
lmao

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:55 am
by Dwlee99
In post 4044, Gamma Emerald wrote:A50 perhaps JKed cheeky n2
that where the unexplained block is, not DGB (since Shrek flipped scum)
Right. But also it'd be funny if it was blocked but dgb targeted scum anyway.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:28 am
by TemporalLich
VC 5.5
Roden
(5)
- Nero Cain, KittyTacky, Gamma Emerald, Dwlee99, Almost50
[E-1]

CheekyTeeky (1) - Roden
Almost50 (1) - ArcAngel9

Not voting: CheekyTeeky, DrippingGoofball, Dragon of the West

With 10 alive it takes 6 to exile.

Day 5 will end in (expired on 2021-09-03 11:30:00) or when an exile is reached.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:26 am
by ArcAngel9
Someone, please protect me, jail keep or watch me

with that said... If I am dead, eliminate Almost50.

VOTE: Roden

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:29 am
by TemporalLich
VC 5.6
Roden
(6)
- Nero Cain, KittyTacky, Gamma Emerald, Dwlee99, Almost50, ArcAngel9
[EXILED!]

CheekyTeeky (1) - Roden

Not voting: CheekyTeeky, DrippingGoofball, Dragon of the West

With 10 alive it takes 6 to exile.

Day 5 will end in (expired on 2021-09-03 11:30:00) or when an exile is reached.