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↑ shos wrote:

↑ Iecerint wrote:
Shos: Whether I was targeted depends on what your definition of "is" is.

?????
what?

My inference at the time was that your defense to the apparent discrepancy was that you were saying that the person you were referring to in that message was yourself. The wording is a reference the way that Clinton claimed he didn't lie about having sex with Monica Lewinsky. This is why I thought it:

shos wrote:

yes, apart form myself obviously.

and it means that I did not see wisdom targetting me, and I *did* get a message, so it must have been a day action.

Bold added. It reads like you were saying that your comment D2 referred to you watching yourself N1, which sounds so utterly ridiculous that I pre-mocked it before that:

iec wrote:inb4 "Oh, I meant that I targeted myself."

Day 2 start was at x:12 (1393)

Eddie's message was sent at y:33. I have to convert the times to check if x=y, but either way it's not five minutes.

Maybe I can WIFOM my way out of all possible scumteams!

Gosh I hope not, we need your scumflip to find your buddies!

Also, shos, you claimed that that line was relevant to your role earlier.

↑ Wisdom wrote:However, there's also this:

↑ shos wrote:also I know that someone targetted me tonight.

shos, explain.

↑ shos wrote:Tgat has relevance to my role

↑ Wisdom wrote:Are you sure that wasn't you being targeted by Rhinox?

Look at me remembering all these details from the day!

I am such a careful reader of words that matter!

Such town wow.

I think that his "well apart from myself" comment has to do with him thinking you were calling discrepancy on "i got nobody targeted me" vs "i always target myself"

↑ Wisdom wrote:So the "I know I was targeted" referred to Eddie's message?

↑ Iecerint wrote:

↑ shos wrote:

↑ Iecerint wrote:
Shos: Whether I was targeted depends on what your definition of "is" is.

?????
what?

My inference at the time was that your defense to the apparent discrepancy was that you were saying that the person you were referring to in that message was yourself. The wording is a reference the way that Clinton claimed he didn't lie about having sex with Monica Lewinsky. This is why I thought it:

shos wrote:

yes, apart form myself obviously.

and it means that I did not see wisdom targetting me, and I *did* get a message, so it must have been a day action.

Bold added. It reads like you were saying that your comment D2 referred to you watching yourself N1, which sounds so utterly ridiculous that I pre-mocked it before that:

iec wrote:inb4 "Oh, I meant that I targeted myself."

that was not an answer to what you asked, it was a comment on the "inb4" thingie.
for explanation of the "discrepancy", see my later post. I still don't understand what the "definition of is is" is about.

But your 4054 is a good point.

To be clear, he's contrasting that with this. Here's Wisdom's post before that one:

↑ Wisdom wrote:Re: the shos thing

shos is telling the truth that the "conftown" thing was about me, not Rhinox.

Spoiler: Relevant Quotes

↑ shos wrote:

↑ Wisdom wrote:yes

Though shos is less likely because he didn't seem to know it was Eddie, unless he was faking it

nope, definitely didn't know. I was all yes/no/yes/no, when I said you might be conftown but then you confused me again so no and then yes and no and FINALLY you fully claimed so yes.

↑ Wisdom wrote:I asked you if you're talking about the "thinkin" thing and you said no. Eddie used that word

But still, why would that make me conftown?

↑ shos wrote:

↑ Wisdom wrote:yes

Though shos is less likely because he didn't seem to know it was Eddie, unless he was faking it

yeah I didn't actually attempt to hint at the wording of the PM, I didn't get that you did. And I figured it would make you conftown because being a scum messenger is completely useless?

Shos it's simple. Why did you claim that you knew someone had targeted you at night...and then claim that no one has targeted you at night?

↑ Wisdom wrote:Day 2 start was at x:12 (1393)

Eddie's message was sent at y:33. I have to convert the times to check if x=y, but either way it's not five minutes.

Nevermind that. Magua actually started the day at x:25. And you are telling the truth it happened instantly, because you immediately posted 1396 in response.

↑ shos wrote:I still don't understand what the "definition of is is" is about.

Refer here.

The connotation is that it is a technical "out," but one that is transparently something that no one really believes.

↑ Wisdom wrote:Day 2 start was at x:12 (1393)

Eddie's message was sent at y:33. I have to convert the times to check if x=y, but either way it's not five minutes.

are you able to send the action during the night?

you should ask eddie literally. he should confirm everything I say.

ask him when he got the 'day start' PM and compare to THAT; not to the actual opening of the thread.

↑ Iecerint wrote:

↑ Wisdom wrote:However, there's also this:

↑ shos wrote:also I know that someone targetted me tonight.

shos, explain.

↑ shos wrote:Tgat has relevance to my role

↑ Wisdom wrote:Are you sure that wasn't you being targeted by Rhinox?

I'm not getting the point
of COURSE it has relevance to my role, is that not clear?
and yes I'm sure I wasn't being targetted by Rhinox, lol. that is regardless of my role - if he was loud and I was the target, I would receive ANOTHER message from the 'loud' part.

I cannot ask Eddie, he is not part of my team anymore. But as I said, I believe you on that part.

I don't believe you on all the others. Are you claiming you did not trust the mod result that you were not targeted by anyone?

You getting a day message isn't relevant to your role.

For example, if Wisdom sent me a message and I knew that someone had sent me something, I wouldn't say "that had relevance to my role."

You said this D3.

↑ Iecerint wrote:To be clear, he's contrasting that with this. Here's Wisdom's post before that one:

↑ Wisdom wrote:Re: the shos thing

shos is telling the truth that the "conftown" thing was about me, not Rhinox.

Spoiler: Relevant Quotes

↑ shos wrote:

↑ Wisdom wrote:yes

Though shos is less likely because he didn't seem to know it was Eddie, unless he was faking it

nope, definitely didn't know. I was all yes/no/yes/no, when I said you might be conftown but then you confused me again so no and then yes and no and FINALLY you fully claimed so yes.

↑ Wisdom wrote:I asked you if you're talking about the "thinkin" thing and you said no. Eddie used that word

But still, why would that make me conftown?

↑ shos wrote:

↑ Wisdom wrote:yes

Though shos is less likely because he didn't seem to know it was Eddie, unless he was faking it

yeah I didn't actually attempt to hint at the wording of the PM, I didn't get that you did. And I figured it would make you conftown because being a scum messenger is completely useless?

Iece, I am still not getting the point.
these quotes show that I did not know WHO sent me the message, and that wisdom tried to hint with the WORDING CONTENT of the message, and I didn't get it because I was talking only about the CONTENT ITSELF.

I feel like an entire scumteam is attempting to punch holes to get me mislynched, lol. look at the sudden cooperation between Tbone and Iece.. astonishing.

↑ T-Bone wrote:Shos it's simple. Why did you claim that you knew someone had targeted you at night...and then claim that no one has targeted you at night?

because I had no reason to think it was faulty. I got the message *SO SOON* after the game started, that I was 99.999% sure that it HAD been a night action.

↑ shos wrote:of COURSE it has relevance to my role, is that not clear?

It doesn't. Your role said that you were NOT targeted and you claimed knowing you were targeted based on your role.

↑ Iecerint wrote:For example, if Wisdom sent me a message and I knew that someone had sent me something, I wouldn't say "that had relevance to my role."

↑ Iecerint wrote:For example, if Wisdom sent me a message and I knew that someone had sent me something, I wouldn't say "that had relevance to my role."

↑ Iecerint wrote:For example, if Wisdom sent me a message and I knew that someone had sent me something, I wouldn't say "that had relevance to my role."

I don't think it is hard to understand.

Okay I believe him.

Like, I could buy you being MISTAKEN (well, more like CONFUSED, because you would STILL have no reason to think it was part of your role) if it were D2 when you were still confused about stuff for reasons I don't get, but you claimed it was related to your role *today*.

Your role is not "message receiver."

Pedit omg lol

T-Bone needs a troll title. I miss Zorblag.

Also wait a second, Iece is right. You said that D3, not D2, meaning you were talking about N2. Eddie sent you the message at the beginning of D2, meaning your supposed dilemma was between N1 and D2, not N2.

I am eating peanut butter and giggling uncontrollably.

I should sleep.