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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:26 am
by Tywin Lannister
Almost is sure freaking out right now when he supposedly already shot me. You'd think he'd move on to someone else if he knew I'd die tonight anyways. He's fucked when I flip town though. Guy got himself caught with his lies.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:29 am
by Almost50
In post 4044, Tywin Lannister wrote:I'll be dead regardless long before you are,
To my knowledge we are only 7 left alive, so if you're not lynched today I don't even see how you would die before I do!
In post 4044, Tywin Lannister wrote:because comm basically confirmed you somehow.
So scum aren't going to shoot a confirmed vig?? I'm not following. Because I know you claimed a VT, so.. in a hypothetical world that you're town.. tell me again: Why would YOU die before me?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:29 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
Tywin if Almost is scum how do you account for Nero's death which points to Almost being town>

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:33 am
by Almost50
In post 4044, Tywin Lannister wrote:and then you made up multiple modifiers that can't all be true or you'd be the most OP role ever invented.
What modifiers? I only said I could not be redirected, but could still be blocked.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:37 am
by Almost50
In post 4044, Tywin Lannister wrote:It's possible you're just a Mafia framer that made a great gambit.
To my limited knowledge; Framer only makes an innocent townie look guilty to investigations, but I've never heard about one who returns a certain ROLE too, let alone make someone GUILTY return an innocent result (I know a lawyer should do that, but also just a guilty returning not guilty result).

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:38 am
by Almost50
In post 4044, Tywin Lannister wrote:So you can explain everything to town after I'm gone
I already did. I explicitly said I should be lynched if you flipped Town.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:41 am
by Almost50
In post 4045, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 4042, Almost50 wrote:You ARE missing the fact I said it was a TIMSHIFTED shot so it should have resolved on the same night not the next one. Can you explain that?
Maybe the mod changed things from previous Timeshift Mafia games, but it's my understanding that only scum have that. I still think you're lying or id be dead already.
3rd or 4th time you bring this up, which makes me wonder: How come you had no problem with my timeshifted shot that hit NERO and resolved ON THE SAME NIGHT my normal shot resolved on TTTT. And I'm the one who didn't read?? *Smirk*

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:43 am
by Almost50
In post 4049, Tywin Lannister wrote:Also, why would I assume you are a vigi without x-shots,
My shots ARE limited. :wink:

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:43 am
by Tywin Lannister
One more thing:

@Almost: please explain why you said SlySly is confirmed town? That's clearly not the case, and it's another blatant lie. There's absolutely no way that you'd know that whatsoever even if it were true unless you are scum. Please explain. Comm said that Not Chara and you are confirmed town, NC based on no info given but assuming he investigated the slot, and you because he investigated fitz and you 'claimed' vigi convienently after nobody else did. So technically, you're not confirmed, but that's not what I'm asking about. I'm asking why you said Sly is confirmed town. Only an actual cop with an investigation or scum would know that. Sly never claimed, and he certainly wasn't confirmed by Comm. So you have some explaining to do with this one bud.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:48 am
by Tywin Lannister
In post 4056, Almost50 wrote:
In post 4045, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 4042, Almost50 wrote:You ARE missing the fact I said it was a TIMSHIFTED shot so it should have resolved on the same night not the next one. Can you explain that?
Maybe the mod changed things from previous Timeshift Mafia games, but it's my understanding that only scum have that. I still think you're lying or id be dead already.
3rd or 4th time you bring this up, which makes me wonder: How come you had no problem with my timeshifted shot that hit NERO and resolved ON THE SAME NIGHT my normal shot resolved on TTTT. And I'm the one who didn't read?? *Smirk*
This makes absolutely no sense. You really have issues with common sense and the ability to be intuitive with what goes on. How would I have any idea if you used a timeshift shot on Nero or not? Do you think I see all your night actions? Are you confusing me with the mod? Are you just insane? What's the deal with you?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:49 am
by Almost50
In post 4049, Tywin Lannister wrote:YOU were the one who kept insisting over and over and over that there HAS to be a Redirector. Not a bus driver. Not any other role. Redirector.
And I'm proven right. It didn't make sense for a bus driver to switch two town slots for starters. It is evident now that we know both Comm and Ram are Town that a bus driver EVEN IF it resolved before the JK (not sure about NAR) still could not have switched me with fitz because I would have been jailed myself and my shot would not have gone through (I KNOW kills resolve after JK and I KNOW I don't have a strongman modifier and I even said that. I can't bypass protections).

Town!Comm targeted fitz (excuse me for dropping your Town status here, fitz. It's for the sake of the argument). fitz was jailed by Town!Ram. Comm instead got MY ROLE. What are your suggestions to explain it?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:52 am
by Almost50
In post 4049, Tywin Lannister wrote:Also, seems like you shoot quite a lot but there's only 1 NK ever.
Really? Then I must be hallucinating. I was under the impression Nero, TTTT and PV all dies the same night!

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:56 am
by Almost50
In post 4049, Tywin Lannister wrote:The very weird thing is that you want to lynch me when you've already supposedly shot me.
I .. SHOT .. YOU .. AND .. YOU .. DID .. NOT .. DIE. You're probably BP or NK immune or something. Or maybe there is a scum Doctor who is protecting you. I doubt Comm would have been shot before me if only one scumster remained, unless you were counting on my shot to rid you of another town player. In fact, that is why I held my shot the night before. I only had this one shot left and I wanted to be sure.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:59 am
by Elena Fisher
Maybe it's better to see if he dies tonight and lynch the next lynchable player (Me)

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:01 am
by Almost50
In post 4049, Tywin Lannister wrote:Now that I brought it up, you claim it was timeshift. That's gotta be a lie or you are scum who just slipped.
So you didn't even notice the shot on Nero was also Timeshifted. The SHOCK of losing your encryptor must've confused you then. :P I know every town player did notice that because it was the reason they excluded there being a SK.

I like your reaction here. I really do. Trying everything you can to shade me. I mean, who cares what you say now? Once you're lynched the game is over and you're excused. Great game though. I REALLY tip my hat for you, my friend.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:01 am
by Tywin Lannister
In post 4061, Almost50 wrote:
In post 4049, Tywin Lannister wrote:Also, seems like you shoot quite a lot but there's only 1 NK ever.
Really? Then I must be hallucinating. I was under the impression Nero, TTTT and PV all dies the same night!
Was that not the night scum used their timeshift? How many do you apparently have? Again, according to ssbm, scum had 1 timeshift shot in every other game, and only scum had it. So now you are timeshift immune, multi-shot vigi that is a strongman, can't be redirected, and.. Again, any more modifiers you wanna add? Seems like you're more powerful than scum based on the flips. Either there are two left, you're lying about multiple things (once a liar, always a liar, and in most games, the motto is lynch all liars), scum have some crazy roles to counter yours, or your role is so OP that it's game breaking and the game shouldn't have passed review. Again, one of these things seeks the most likely, and that is that you're just a liar.

Also, I didn't die when you claimed to have timeshift shot me. So again, you're a liar. Maybe Mafia have a poisoner or something that makes 3 people die on N3 and only one person on literally every other night since then. Funny how that works, and funny how I didn't die when you claimed to have shot me. Again, you're a liar. A bad one.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:08 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
Elena
I am not voting you at the moment,,,,or plan to

Tywin
We are not voting Almost he is conf town by the bullet to Nero unless you can prove otherwise......

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:09 am
by Elena Fisher
[quote="In post 4066, TheFuzzylogic99"]Elena
I am not voting you at the moment,,,,or plan to
/quote]
What changed?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:12 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
I don't remember scum reading you.....

plus I want to lynch either Twyin or fritz who both are on the Vifam wagon. I guess I should be a candidate also since I was on the wagon as well.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:13 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
As I said I think its very likely scum was on the Vifam wagon.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:17 am
by Almost50
In post 4058, Tywin Lannister wrote:One more thing:

@Almost: please explain why you said SlySly is confirmed town? That's clearly not the case, and it's another blatant lie. There's absolutely no way that you'd know that whatsoever even if it were true unless you are scum. Please explain. Comm said that Not Chara and you are confirmed town, NC based on no info given but assuming he investigated the slot, and you because he investigated fitz and you 'claimed' vigi convienently after nobody else did. So technically, you're not confirmed, but that's not what I'm asking about. I'm asking why you said Sly is confirmed town. Only an actual cop with an investigation or scum would know that. Sly never claimed, and he certainly wasn't confirmed by Comm. So you have some explaining to do with this one bud.
Now this IS a scum claim. You are now saying Comm got a Vig result on fitz, and I claimed it while the real Vig is sitting around still watching?? And after you asked about me saying Sly was "confirmed" the first time I asked you to quote it, and you didn't. fitz however did come up with the quote and the exact wording "almost" confirmed. You must have developed an allergy tp the word "almost" though, so you're excused. :P

Framer is ridiculous, and Framer on fitz while Comm investigated him is even more so. How would I have known who Comm would investigate? And -even assuming the unthinkable and that there is a role that returns a certain role rather than guilty/not guilty- it would have been much easier to just make fitz look guilty, lynch him, then the Role Cop follows.

In fact, it was I who saved Comm from the lynch by claiming and lead the charge on James instead, while you postured pretending to demand more discussion (which I bought, so kodus to you) giving James time to come back and say he was trolling in a desperate attempt to save him for just one more night.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:19 am
by Almost50
In post 4059, Tywin Lannister wrote:How would I have any idea if you used a timeshift shot on Nero or not?
1- Because I said that I did. Right here.. in this thread .. back at the time when he flipped.

2- Because I also said I shot TTTT who flipped at the same day start. I shot TTTT on one night and Nero on the next and they both flipped along with PV on the same day. That's how.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:21 am
by Almost50
In post 4063, Elena Fisher wrote:Maybe it's better to see if he dies tonight and lynch the next lynchable player (Me)
He will NOT die tonight because my shot was NOT delayed.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:31 am
by Tywin Lannister
In post 4066, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Elena
I am not voting you at the moment,,,,or plan to

Tywin
We are not voting Almost he is conf town by the bullet to Nero unless you can prove otherwise......
The only way I could prove otherwise is assuming other roles beyond a Redirector (also an assumption). Comm investigated Fits and got vigi. We all assume there's a Redirector (although why no Busdriver or framer or literally dozens of other roles? Because Almpst wouldn't stop saying Redirector as if he knew already) due to it, but if there's not, then the result of vigi from comm investigating fitz, and Almost's lies combined with only 1 night having multiple NKs, his obvious lies about his modifiers due to the power being game breaking of true, his supposed timeshift shot on me that A) didn't kill me and B) shouldn't have a timeshift shot unless he's scum regardless, and basically the way James played means scum had to gamble hard on something to win. It's not beyond my assumption that Almost would claim vigi after a Mafia framer result, or possibly Nero had some type of role that killed him or got him killed during an NK. It would require me to look up all the possible roles to figure it out though.

I'm not voting Almost, because it doesn't matter. If he's scum, town will lose. Also, apparently I should be dead already, so I'm not really sure wtf is going on. What I do know is that IF almost shot me, he wouldn't need to lynch me today. I also know that I'm the last person alive that was generally looked at as town by all those NK'd (Ram/Comm/etc) and so it's fitting for Almost to buddy up with Sly now to push my lynch. Sly is NOT confirmed town regardless of what almost said, but I promise he said it to get Sly on his side after I'm dead.

Again, I'm not bulletproof or anything like it, so Almost is lying. There's no other explanation unless a doc protected me, and I personally think he is scum that is covering his tracks about WHY his vigi shots never seem to kill anyone at all and why only ONE night actually had multiple NKs. I think he's lying. Again, you'll see regardless after my flip. He's lying about being a vigi. I almost guarantee it. Otherwise, he's lying about being more than a 1-shot, and so his shot on me last night wasn't real.

That or he's literally just crazy.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:32 am
by Almost50
In post 4065, Tywin Lannister wrote:Was that not the night scum used their timeshift? How many do you apparently have? Again, according to ssbm, scum had 1 timeshift shot in every other game, and only scum had it. So now you are timeshift immune, multi-shot vigi that is a strongman, can't be redirected, and.. Again, any more modifiers you wanna add?
I'm now done talking to Tywin.

@The rest of you:

1- Ssbm_Kyouko is NOT the mod. What he said is NOT the bible of the game. I did have a mix of Timeshifted and Normal shots, so I know.

2- I NEVER EVER said I was a Strongman. I always explained I could not be redirected but could be blocked. In fact, EVEN IF Tywin had missed all that before it still doesn't make sense for him to maintain that claim while I claim to have shot him and he didn't die. His first response was that he was not BP, which clearly implies he KNOWS I'm not a strongman.

Continually shading me is his last resort. He is caught scum, and he did GREAT to be honest convincing the rest of us he was Town. He is just suffering from the trauma of being caught untimely. He already had Elena, Sly and Fuzzy lined up for the lynch while he shoots me, fitz & NC. I mean, let's look at the plan (forgive me if I put someone before/after their due time):

We lynch Elena, he shoots me.

You lynch Sly and he shoots fitz.

Now you're in a 3-person LyLo with Tywin, Fuzzy & NC alive. Who do you think the lynch would be?