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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:54 am
by Taly
With that, VOTE: Start The Vote.

If anybody has more questions about my stances, feel free.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:56 am
by Taly
I'm slightly paranoid of
Peta/Cakez
S/S but I don't have grounds for that.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:59 am
by Taly
I'm also still reading this gamestate in a
Toog
-town universe.

I don't follow any logic that would suggest
Dunn/Toog
S/S, however vaguely it's been stated.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:03 pm
by Taly
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Also curious on how I give off the impression of a powerful player. I feel like I've proved this Event more than any that I am very fallible.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:07 pm
by Taly
In post 4052, Taly wrote:I'm also still reading this gamestate in a
Toog
-town universe.

I don't follow any logic that would suggest
Dunn/Toog
S/S, however vaguely it's been stated.
I'll complete this idea with the main points:

1) Toog's
quickwagon and hammer conveyed a counter to another player. Unless Blue Team is quite literally 0-1 scum and all a bunch of mislimmable town slots, I have a hard time seeing the duel as S/S.
2) Toog
spent about the entire PT trying to bring cohesion to the team.
3) Toog
does not seem pressured at all, no matter how much suspicion that slot gets. They feel more focused on solving and grabbing a sense of the game than survivalism.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:09 pm
by Taly
In post 4049, Taly wrote:3) I don't want to give scum the benefit of a tie. I don't care if that "informs town", that will always be an argument of WIFOM, which we do not need. I'd probably - and reluctantly - vote Peta to avoid this.
Let me rephrase this too -
I will vote any alternative if it avoids a tie.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:15 pm
by Taly
Taly wrote:I'm slightly paranoid of
Peta/Cakez
S/S but I don't have grounds for that.
In post 3633, Ydrasse wrote:sircakez/peta/toog
What a parallel.

Makes me want to anime GIF.

Image

Boa is my fucking spirit

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:17 pm
by petapan
In post 4033, Taly wrote:
Peta/Dwlee/Gammagooey
, I feel compelled to speak with you 3.
hi, i'm home from work now

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:19 pm
by Gamma Emerald
What if it was Toog and 2 people in blue team? There was an early sentiment that the duel wasn’t really clearing for Toog, but they never gained traction. Maybe that’s why they didn’t feel pressured? And with Infinity getting nominated and how many people were sussing them, Toog could basically do whatever in the pink room with the knowledge that it was basically going to be a landslide. As for the duel, I just looked at the votes and Peta and Saber were the last two. Now I’m worried about a Peta/Harley/Toog team tbh
I started this as an attempt to devil’s advocate but this all sounds internally consistent :eek:

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:20 pm
by Taly
petapan wrote:
In post 4033, Taly wrote:
Peta/Dwlee/Gammagooey
, I feel compelled to speak with you 3.
hi, i'm home from work now
Rank my 10 posts (starting with ) in order from least mindmelding to most mindmelding.

IF
you want to do some homework ;D

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:23 pm
by petapan
In post 4051, Taly wrote:I'm slightly paranoid of
Peta/Cakez
S/S but I don't have grounds for that.
fwiw i think i'd be an absolute nutcase to try to bus cakez with dunn while dunn was getting run up


cakez is, like, the only one of my townreads that i consider fallible in that i could see him plausibly tmi bussing his teammate (sorry cakez!) but in terms of how he reacted to me attacking him was just incredibly genuine and i'm confident enough in that to just say bank on it

i'm, like, a little floored he's townreading me and wasn't sure why but was afraid to question it

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:38 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3746, Gamma Emerald wrote:How did everyone in the pink room act when they started posting?
Did anyone answer this?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by Ydrasse
stagehand pt informs me they were a right wreck

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:43 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 4061, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3746, Gamma Emerald wrote:How did everyone in the pink room act when they started posting?
Did anyone answer this?
will get to this

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:49 pm
by Dwlee99
Do not vote out peta over infinity pleaaaase

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:03 pm
by petapan
In post 4059, Taly wrote:
petapan wrote:
In post 4033, Taly wrote:
Peta/Dwlee/Gammagooey
, I feel compelled to speak with you 3.
hi, i'm home from work now
Rank my 10 posts (starting with ) in order from least mindmelding to most mindmelding.

IF
you want to do some homework ;D
lol uh

not sure all of these are statements i can mindmeld on as i am obviously biased on some of them but ok

4052/4054 - the points toward toogeloo-town are, i feel, more likely true than the reasons for suspecting them at this point in time. i was annoyed at them not really putting in effort and believe in policying that type of play every time (because, as i said earlier in the game, i was in a game where a scum did nothing but troll all game and still ended up making F5).

i also think that if toog is town ydrasse is suspect from the wagon movement toward the end of Event Two

4055 - will vote anyone to avoid a tie, yes agree ties are bad and letting scum control the kill is the worst outcome because we just learn less
4050 - yeah i'm ready to start the vote i guess

4045 - re: regretting the nominations - this one is hard. i obviously feel much less good about my vote now, but so much of that is hindsight and have knowledge and interactions i didn't when i made that decision, and so that couldn't have been taken into account

i believed my choice made sense at the time based on the evidence i had and i struggled to find a better vote

but also, crucially, i don't know the alignments of infinity of the saberslot right now. it's still an incomplete judgment

if i was wrong then clearly there was a failure in my process somewhere, i drew the wrong conclusions from the information i had

but it's also possible that my secondary and tertiary suspects at the time were also wrong and i was just so lost that i was never going to make the right call

this is part of why i like plying town less, trying to sort through information is hard

4047/4049 - i think infinity probably is flipping town at this point in time, yes. has had enough posts that ring true

however, i hate to do this, but

in the event i actually go over here, do not clear infinity based off this phase

because as scum, what are their options here? if they weren't on record as scumreading me they can't really push hard against me. the only thing they could do really is act resigned and hope people read it as townie and paranoia on me. i don't think their play this phase is, like, unfakeable for scum. i wouldn't go right back to the well on them, i'd flip other people first assuredly (skitter and, uh, saber slot, eugh) but i don't think it makes them definite town

i'm still bracing for the townflip and will feel bad if it happens but i am making no assumptions before that

4048/4053 - the ego boost thing/you being proven fallible i don't have much to say about these, i think the feeling of fallibility sort of points to you being town but if you're scum i would be okay with losing to you at this point

4051 - paranoid of me/cakez, while obviously i can't agree with that i did explain to you the only reason to tinfoil cakez but i think he's just solidly town

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:39 pm
by Harley Quinn
In post 4045, Taly wrote:I'm regretting that I didn't vote
Saber/Harley Quinn
slot and wish
Skitter
swapped with
Infinity
for the nom.

Essentially, neither nom is one I want eliminated above others.
:(

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:41 pm
by Harley Quinn
I was so excited when I got my role pm buy seeing that some people already had their minds made up before I even made a single post is seriously disheartening.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:41 pm
by Dwlee99
What's so great about your role

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:44 pm
by Harley Quinn
In post 4068, Dwlee99 wrote:What's so great about your role
I said I was excited to get my role pm because I’m town. What else did you think I meant?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:45 pm
by Dwlee99
Idk just having some fun

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:45 pm
by Dwlee99
Anyway start vote and kill infinity

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:50 pm
by Harley Quinn
In post 4039, Infinity 324 wrote:gamma I've accepted my fate

maybe people will listen to you in the next phase
This is giving me townpings. Would Infinty make this post as scum?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:54 pm
by Dwlee99
Sure why not

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:32 pm
by Toogeloo
I'm willing to town read anyone who town reads me. Get it while it's hot!