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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:08 am
by PJ.
↑ mykonian wrote:No. Issue is that you need to create time. Not any tank can run it, you need that and waveclear to bugger off and do some jungle. Tanks that tend to build sunfire top that weren't top tier in the last top tank meta are champions that require help pushing the lane anyway. You can't do it with shen. You are just going to be sitting there with a fancy summoner, clearing waves that are pushed into your tower.
So... bruisers with good/great early waveclear. Shyv, Renekton, Pony, sion maybe, gangplank maybe, garen maybe and after that zac becomes even more awkward. I don't even know if that still counts. Of that list I only play zac. So perhaps it is strong, but it is narrow, and 3 of the 7 champs I named aren't in meta toplaners anyway for all kinds of good reasons.
Say silver sion doing it last night. He died level 1 to golems. I fortunately helped him by killing his laner at 3. Steamroller victory.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:12 am
by animorpherv1
↑ PJ. wrote:He died level 1 to golems.
So, regular sion start?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:45 am
by zoraster
↑ KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:Anyone tried running smite top for the sickingly good jungle item for tanks?
I tried it with Mundo. Worked well, but I think to be really useful you need to also have some jungle mentality (really think about when's a good opening to take Krugs/Gromp, invade to steal blue, make sure you have the scuttler on timer).
Honestly, cinderhulk is very good, but the combination with skirmishers is what makes it really good.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:03 am
by PJ.
Is dying lvl 1 to golems normal?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:28 am
by KaleiÐoscøpe
Sion dying to a camp, then killing it with passive, getting lvl2 and an extra couple potions then teleporting to lane is a good Sion start
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:35 am
by PJ.
I don't think he got level 2 but he definitely started golem killed it and died, then tped to lane. Sounds not good but cause wasting tp right away.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:40 am
by zoraster
he should get level 2 from killing krugs as long as no one else is there to leach and you get both of them. Wasting TP right away isn't that big a deal. You figure you respawn around 2:40, you TP in at 2:45, so your TP is back up at 6:45ish. It means you can't back early, but you have a few extra potions, which should make that unnecessary as Sion. I don't think most Sions would want to TP elsewhere on the map before 7 minutes anyway, but I'm no expert.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:49 am
by KaleiÐoscøpe
Chances are unlikely that your ult is up before tp, or that you need to be there to contest dragon that early. Its a perfect start for a laneswap Sion because he cant be bullied out that easily with the extra pots and start lvl2
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:59 am
by PJ.
I definitely did dragon before tp was back up.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:32 am
by KaleiÐoscøpe
Unless mid or bot got killed, in which case the dragon was free, it shouldnt happen without the other team noticing it
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:47 am
by animorpherv1
↑ PJ. wrote:I don't think he got level 2 but he definitely started golem killed it and died, then tped to lane. Sounds not good but cause wasting tp right away.
If he didn't get 2 he didn't clear the entire camp, which should have happened.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:24 am
by Iecerint
URF has destroyed my ability to manage mana.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:31 am
by hitogoroshi
↑ PJ. wrote:I definitely did dragon before tp was back up.
I find for the four minute drake kids (Nunu, Udyr, etc.) it's not really about local force but just "are there wards", pretty much as a binary outcome.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:49 am
by Gendaberry
Can anyone suggest a fun tops and jungles to play that aren't picked/banned too much? My top and jungle pools are pitiful since I don't play them often and I don't want to play Yorick every time I'm forced into top.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:58 am
by hitogoroshi
Vladimir is radimir. And you should get an AP top if you play Yorick already.
For jungle, mummy is a timeless classic.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:12 am
by BROseidon
Jayce top has been a go-to for me for a while.
WW top is also fun
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:17 am
by KaleiÐoscøpe
Malphite top, tele bot at 6 and get a double kill and dragon
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:38 am
by Voidedmafia
'Nuff said.
Or Diana (although meta seems to favor her mid over top)
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:58 am
by PJ.
Fiora best champ
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:59 am
by PJ.
Skarner for jungle
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:02 am
by Iecerint
I find toplane Vladimir so relaxing. But that might not be what you mean by "fun."
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:34 pm
by Voidedmafia
First game today. Took a hell of a long time to get into queue, but once we got in they surrendered at 21 mins after a 4-0 in our jungle around blue. It's the second time I (think?) I've beaten a Yasuo in lane as Xerath. Cool? Idk if Ghost is good on Xerath, either. Heal or ignite feels better, honestly.
Other game I just finished. Much longer than the other one, and it's been awhile since I played Malz. I was debating at the end if I should've gotten Liandry's or something, but I wasn't sure. I mean, what after Void/Rab/Morello/*defensive item* should Malz get?
Anyways, game was pretty back and forth, though we got the win regardless. Kinda weird, though. Not sure who was supposed to be the AD carry. I'm a little miffed Garen didn't go Aegis for the MR because they ALL were AP. Even Ez.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:35 pm
by Gendaberry
You know, I forgot that Diana existed for a bit. That's probably my best bet since she can cover both top and jungle. Thanks for that.
On another note, the more I play ADC the more I realize how awful I used to be at it. I have no clue how I managed to climb with it despite playing nowhere close to as greedy as I should have been.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:43 pm
by Oman
I find ignite terrible on xerath. If you're close enough to ignite you're out of position.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:40 pm
by PJ.
bad name.