Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:59 pm
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Yeah, and? You're just proving my point, nullscumread.In post 4074, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:"I guess I could also reach out to orcinus and PV, in spite of my scumreads on them, but aside from, "Hi, I think you're both scum", I can't really think of anything to discuss (not argue) with them other than that, because while I'm open to being wrong about my read, I don't see how I would be."
Mastin, 3 pages later (and I haven't showed up in these three pages): "Scumread at times, sure. But overall nullread"
what the fuck
Yes. Your claim was scummier than Rancid's.You claimed that the circumstance of my claim made me scummier than rancid.
Interacting with Rancid (rather, lack thereof) is part of the claim, orc.Not that I didn't interact with rancid.
Yes. Because Rancid was upfront about their ability, and had posting that made perfect sense. Doesn't mean that you are scum. Just that of the two, you are the far, far, FAR more likely player toYOU SAID THAT ME CLAIMING WHEN I WAS BEING RUN UP MAKES ME MORE LIKELY TO BE SCUM OUT OF ME AND RANCID.
They have the ~town passion~ off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure there were other things too.In post 4058, AngryPidgeon wrote:Yggdra is null leaning towards "uh how the he'll are ppl townreading them?". I disliked the writing orci off as town for a claim when people jg Ave been talking all game about how roles do not mean anything in this game
From a balancing point, if Orcinus is scum, then town can lynch some other scum, scum Orcinus can govern it, put 2 townie's in instead so a mislynch occurs, then night comes and another townie can die, and the scum-Orcinus-governor mislynch can't even be docced like a NkIn post 4033, MastinSSK wrote:Bluntly, no.In post 4032, Yggdra Union wrote:And governor is a town role.
I've seen a shitload of scum governors; I've not encountered a town one.
Yeah, I know they exist; the role is supposed to be alignment-null. But my experience has been scum governors. ESPECIALLY self-governing.
Just out of curiosity's sake, I'd love to know what that niggle is.In post 4071, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:I'm on town's side. And I obviously think that means we're on the same side.In post 4070, CarbonFiber wrote:Of course there is a whole game going on and I didn't direct my wall at you so I have no idea why you would be tired of talking about it. I particularly don't like posts like these where you discourage analysis or look down upon town players working with each other.In post 4069, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Maybe it's an artifact of where your focus currently is, but I feel like there's a whole game going on here, not just those 3 players.
I'm trying to move up a few thousand feet in terms of how I'm viewing the game, because I'm kinda tired of talking to the same people with the same disagreements and agreements constantly.
From my perspective, it's not moving the game forward. And I don't think anything is going to seriously move the game forward until more players are really engaged today.
I have been moving the game forward by collaborating with townreads and making sure we lynch one of Mastin/AP today. I really don't want this to turn into yet another noisy day where Mastin and AP make a spectacle of themselves and we lynch another lurker. My objective is to make sure we drive one of their lynches through today and I need you on my side if you are town.
I'm not trying to discourage analysis at all, and in fact your criticisms (and tammy's) on day 1 about my typical play were noted and internalized. How that manifests in my in-thread behavior, I don't know yet. I probably won't know what I'm actually doing differently as opposed to what I'm thinking until I get feedback about it in games.
Whoever we vote today aside, there are other reads to solidify today. I guess what's frustrating me is that you're talking about 3 players I think are town. Of the three, the only one I have even the slightest niggle about at the moment is Titan and it's a very small niggle that I feel pretty sure comes down to playstyle/philosophy.
The bit about the same disagreements over and over is a general whine not directed at you.
Heh...well at least I didn't barge into that one and I remained the creepy peeping Tammy behind the windows where I belonged :pIn post 4056, AngryPidgeon wrote:You weren't in Baltimore meet game. Stalker!In post 4035, Titan wrote:In post 4032, Yggdra Union wrote:And governor is a town role.
Hi! Cabd game, there's more to it than x is a town role.
I've been a scum self-governor, and mattp was a scum self governor in Baltomeet.
And Axxle was a town self governor in Reckoning conversely :p
Mostly the concern that he bussed.In post 4065, CarbonFiber wrote: Orc's role does somewhat clash but I'm scumreading Rancid so I am not overly worried about it. What about Orcinus concerned you beyond the possibility that Nacho bussed?
Which would be true if that's what I said. But it wasn't. I said I didn't know what I could say to you, other than that I had a scumread on you at the time. Not that I wasn't going to bother interacting--quite the opposite, I was trying to figure out a way TO interact.In post 4078, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:mastin when you say someone is so scum that you don't even bother to interact with them
that is not a fucking nullread
Aside from Cabd-game being Cabd-game? Yeah. Look up Judge, Jury, and Executioner for a similar mechanic, but throughout the whole game rather than a one-time role. The town could catch one scum (and did), but without two scum as voted, couldn't win the game.In post 4079, PeregrineV wrote:Is there a reason I should think a scumrole would exist that can punish town for catching scum by not only stopping the scum-lynch but throwing a town player into it instead making it a mislynch?
Join the club. Apparently the entire rest of the fucking town is.In post 4083, Titan wrote:Mastin's posts from last night are rubbing me the wrong way.
I haven't meta'd you in a while, but I'm pretty sure this is patently false. It depends entirely on who you choose to buddy. I recall that scum-you is obnoxious to people you think you can lynch. Adding this to my list of stuff to research.In post 4084, MastinSSK wrote:(Helpful hint about me. A scum-me doesn't really tick people off. A scum me is nice. Friendly. Likes to be your ally and buddy-buddy. My play this game...isn't that. Not even remotely.)
I buddy everyone, even the people I try to mislynch. I only turn obnoxious as a defensive mechanism. I explained this already.In post 4085, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:It depends entirely on who you choose to buddy. I recall that scum-you is obnoxious to people you think you can lynch. Adding this to my list of stuff to research.
And what you're yet again forgetting is that Anything Goes had me legitimately scumread you, thus the hostility.In post 4086, Just Sheep Us wrote:yeah, like anything goes
oh wait, we're not allowed to reference that game anymore. i forgot. evidently so did mastin.
LB had a scumread on AP. If I'm remotely close to accurate on who LB is,In post 3423, Lord Business wrote:I called AP from early on, people just weren't that interested in listening.
A comment that, again, makes me deeply concerned about orcinus's alignment.In post 3415, Lord Business wrote:So much for a no lynch huh orcinus?
In post 3387, Lord Business wrote:I think mastins hydra is town. I've seen SSK as scum and he wasn't vey involved. Maybe t was a bad game, and I know mastin has been leading this.
But with mastin when she replaced in to too many heads she seemed far more concerned wit buddying and bucking the trend of others opinions. Here she seems to have just attacked, and stubbornly so.
But please feel free to point to why she might be scum.
At times, yes. Especially as town.In post 4089, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Maybe you have a blind spot about how your posts are taken at times.
I present to you this little tidbit,In post 2865, Natirasha wrote:F-16 when you lynch us and we flip town will you remember that mastin is town? Or will you sit there with your mouth firmly attached to the scum's dick still, because the amount of willful suspension you are showing is exactly why I had you down as scum for as long as I did.
Talk to me about these fragments of town with strongly divergent ideas. Obviously, at a surface level, it is apparent to anyone that reads the thread but I am hoping that you could elaborate in depth on these ideas.In post 3818, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:I forget who suggested it. I've rolled it around in my head a few times. I dunno. I don't think so. The puzzle pieces aren't coming together very easily, though.In post 3816, Just Sheep Us wrote:Please tell me this isn't realIn post 3769, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:My thought is vig. I've given some minor thought to 2 scum teams, and it might make sense of where the daytime lines get drawn, but I'm nowhere near convinced that's what's going on.
I think the huge divergence in RBD reads indicates two very different fragments of town in this game, with two strongly divergent ideas about what is going on.