In Memory

[drealmerz7]

it's obviously nothing personal

I am having trouble communicating

I'm trying to work on communicating better, to do that I need to express what my issues are

wahhhwahhhwahhhh that I'm not coddling about it

[The DEO]

English is my first. The people have English as a second language. Calrification as that sentence structure if not taken literally implies I do.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

Please use proper capitalization in your posts. The all caps doesn't make me believe you more or less and is just annoying to read. All you are doing is shouting someone is scum ad nauseum when if you are an SK then everyone is scum to you. If you are going to start correcting people's grammar, I am going to correct yours.

~~Math

oh fuck off seriously

YOU ARE TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT

I AM TRYING TO INCREASE EFFECTIVENESS OF COMMUNICATION

[drealmerz7]

I seriously have to take like 3 times as long with her posts to try and fucking understand what she is saying, no one else has this issue?

I have worked with people from another country before and have English as a second language.

Grammar is not alignment indicative and pointing out mistakes during the game only serves to make someone feel shitty. Stop it.

~~Math

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE FUCK I'M DOING

LEARN TO FUCKING READ

I AM HAVING ISSUES WITH THEIR POSTS

I SAID SOMETHING

YOU ARE BEING A SCUMFUCK TWISTING INTO THIS SHIT

[drealmerz7]

how about you let FA and I work it out and stay the fuck out of it, eh?

[The DEO]

it's obviously nothing personal

I am having trouble communicating

I'm trying to work on communicating better, to do that I need to express what my issues are

wahhhwahhhwahhhh that I'm not coddling about it

The best way to communicate better is to not yell and scream at people.
It is to ask questions and why...repeatedly. The more others talk the more effective you are when you do talk because other people feel like they are heard.

I am working at it myself but I would suggest not going to defensiveness and yelling and just listen and ask why?

Get to know people.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

well it's REALLY FUCKING FRUSTRATING TO BE GOING OVER SHIT THAT HAPPENED AGES AGO AT THIS POINT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T FUCKING READ, YA KNOW?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[The DEO]

how about you let FA and I work it out and stay the fuck out of it, eh?

I am not going to let you insult someone in thread like that.

It is not scumhunting to tear down people's communication skills.

So respectfully I will not stay out of it.

Now who do you think is scum?

Make a case without yelling.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

it's content

are they being a shit-communicator because they're scum trying to be difficult? I don't fucking know but I'm tired of it and I'm pushing them about it and addressing it

[drealmerz7]

you think playing mafia for so many years your ability to articulate the english language would be a bit better, is all

it's not a fucking insult, it's how it fucking is

get your fucking egos out of it

[The DEO]

well it's REALLY FUCKING FRUSTRATING TO BE GOING OVER SHIT THAT HAPPENED AGES AGO AT THIS POINT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T FUCKING READ, YA KNOW?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

If Frozen Angel can't read (I think she can as she has modded games), this yelling only brings people down and has no Town purpose. Stop it.

If you want to call her scum for not doing so fine. That is your prerogative but do not pretend insulting people is a valid strategy to hunt scum.

~~Math

[The DEO]

you think playing mafia for so many years your ability to articulate the english language would be a bit better, is all

it's not a fucking insult, it's how it fucking is

get your fucking egos out of it

I only have one ego and I believe in stating what I mean without attacking the other person.

Your point about FA not reading the thread closely is lost when you do all caps and berate people constantly. Seriously. If you think I am scum or FA is you need to take a chill pill and calmly explain why.

I am interested in what you think but the more you insult FA the less I care and think you are an SK just spamming this thread.

Go cool off.

~~Math

[The DEO]

Yeah but have you played with RC or in one of his games?

Dude has some crazy creativity going on in his brain, and I wouldn't put it past him to try something like this.

Also, my whole not-being-part-of-the-game for Day 1 is borderline bastard, but I also have some priveleged information as it relates to my role, etc. Still, I'm just saying that it's a possibility.

Scumread would be FA for a lot of lamist and iioa type posts that I touched on earlier, and "not-a-town-read" would be Alisae because I never really liked the Gamma slot and she hasn't done anything to improve that feeling.

How do you have "privileged information" as a 1 shot BP?

~~Math

@zefiend -- Just pointing this out again in case you lost it after Drealmerz's explosion.

[drealmerz7]

we seriously have spend 50 fucking pages or so hashing the mechanics of all the Night-shit (well, you all have) and one of the main people involved isn't even up on all the information, even though they appear so confident to know what the fuck they are talking about and how to go about it all

it's fucking ridiculous, and being pissed is absolutely valid

[The DEO]

drealmz how does it feel to be a jerk to those who don't have English as their first language yet still write it better than over 50% of the population that does?

What do you think of Frozen Angel and mhsmith?

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

like

she is wasting everyone's fucking time and energy

why aren't YOU FUCKING MORE PISSED??!?!?!

[JaeReed]

They're not groupscum together. That's about all I have. Did you read the spoilered bit in the PT?

[The DEO]

we seriously have spend 50 fucking pages or so hashing the mechanics of all the Night-shit (well, you all have) and one of the main people involved isn't even up on all the information, even though they appear so confident to know what the fuck they are talking about and how to go about it all

it's fucking ridiculous, and being pissed is absolutely valid

I am not saying pissed is invalid.

I am saying make a valid point and do so without attacking people.

For example, FA earlier claimed to hunt via mechanics and said she is good at it. Missing that seems contradictory. Instead of going and finding that post and saying "You are pissing me off because you claim X in post ABCD but here you are not caught up on the mechanics." It is sketchy to me.

The more you focus on grammar and yelling the less likely people are to listen. I have seen rage as either alignment and it doesn't help me believe you or your case. Focus on the play not the player or grammar.

~~Math

FYI Capitalization is still off.

[drealmerz7]

you're changing the issue

I only bring up the use of language because I am having trouble communicating with them, not because I have an issue with grammar

believe me, I've played with pisskop and not had the issues be this bad

[The DEO]

like

she is wasting everyone's fucking time and energy

why aren't YOU FUCKING MORE PISSED??!?!?!

Oh I am pissed. I assure you I am wanting to throw things here.

However I know that if I do not keep a calm and level head I am no longer hunting. I am taking people's feedback between games and improving.

~~Math

[The DEO]

They're not groupscum together. That's about all I have. Did you read the spoilered bit in the PT?

..Thanks for announcing to the world you have a PT with me and since I have full claimed and Titus being another neighborizer doesn't make sense.

*Smackies*

Please explain your thoughts to everyone best you can.

~~Math

[JaeReed]

It was already announced, Math.

[drealmerz7]

it's about being able to comprehend what the fuck she is saying, what questions she is asking me, me understanding what she understands based on the things she says, and now I just feel like at a complete loss

it has become a big enough obstacle in the game that I need to address it, it has been an obstacle, and I've been dealing with it and being patient, but now it's affecting MY ABILITY to play this game effectively

what else has she missed? like, she's either a useless town slot at this point because she hasn't been paying attention to the game-state and is completely lost, or she's scum fucking with all of this shit on purpose

either way, she can die, imo

[The DEO]

Okay put your thoughts on the FA and mhsmith out here please.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

It was already announced, Math.

like

how am I not supposed to rage that we're wasting time with this shit?

how am I supposed to pick out scum-tactics from bumbling townies?

get on your game, people