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In post 1788, Shaziro wrote:

In post 1742, Klazam wrote:

In post 1734, Dunkerdoodles wrote:yeah ok
dont blame me if this flips town
VOTE: creature

ME NO LIKE THIS POST

Kok, Idgaf if you want me to be vigged. at least im not being antitown like nero.

End of day scumreads if i do get vigged:

Gamma, Nero, Kok (maybe), dunk

Strange that you assume you will be a vig target rather than a night kill

In post 1147, Shaziro wrote:

In post 1111, Chara wrote:i agree somewhat, that the Creature lynch is not as informative as it could be. it's like lynching a cop guilty. i don't think anyone would be arguing for leaving a guilty alive. perhaps it's different for players like Titus who don't want to rely on meta or players who just don't know him.
i am reminded of the "town winrates go down when scum is lynched day 1" theory. it's interesting.

would still rather lynch essentially confirmed scum. seeing a scum role would be useful to tell us about the setup and remove a night factor. i've waited to lynch scum Creature before on the insistence of other players and it didn't really help anything because he doesn't post.
i guess leaving him alive would be fine if a vig shoots him.

posts like this are the reason I townread Chara so goddamn hard. We have the -exact- same thought process for this.

In post 3494, Shaziro wrote:Ok, I think I support a massclaim now tbh, but I'll go ahead and claim anyhow because NKA may just be useful here.

I'm Japan, hence my first post in this game starting with a haiku, and I have Bushido. I'm a vig. I shot Dunker, and I shot Kokichi.

In post 3392, Kokichi Oma wrote:Vig gamma please.

VOTE: actiondan

In post 3390, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'll lynch ActionDan on the principle that he thinks that I can be scum this game.

In post 3370, Kokichi Oma wrote:L y n c h. G a m m a

In post 3332, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 3330, Shaziro wrote:

In post 3168, Shaziro wrote:

In post 3163, Kokichi Oma wrote:Good. Now you have a full day to think of a believable claim and reason as to why you used a watcher shot on the clear yesterday and not tonight.

You're poisoning the well against him now. Gross.

Here's a direct quote which I can be bothered to get because it's recent. Beyond that, it's a mix of the seemingly purposeful spearing of attempts to get information, the constant insistence that they be World Congress leader, the attempts to powerlynch Gamma despite Gamma (at least to me) being obviously town, and their smug attitude towards votes on them which smacks of scum trying to convince town that voting them won't do anything so don't bother.

TL;DR they've been scummy as shit all game both in action and in my gutread on them, I'd be happy to see them flip.

Wow pushing on scum makes me scum. Who knew

In post 4078, Kiana Kaslana wrote:OtM I was strong townreading your slot thanks to Titus and I still do so now, but please do summarize your reads and catchup once you're done, because it's all over the place and I can't make much sense of the fragments.

<3, Kiana

In post 111, Creature wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald

In post 700, Joey_ wrote:If we nominate a town block of about 5-6 people who will receives the most of the delegates for the coming days, if they get killed off they will keep somewhat of a head-start to keep the snowball effect, so town can get more delegates to give it to town and so on. It keeps the WL and 2nd runner up at least in town hands (if we have half decent reads, its not hard to find 4-5 obvious town slot in a 20p setup)

In post 1040, Joey_ wrote:EBtw town circle for now -> kokichi, nero, sharizo and prob dunk

In post 2358, Joey_ wrote:Also spec wise, a religion spreader + invest role + some sort of blocking role makes sens for a scum team (this is conf bias too and gamma could lie and about his role as scum)
This also means that there might be an orange religion spreader? Hm

In post 4084, OnTheMark wrote:Gotta go for now but a summary of claims and religions/world Congress stuffs would be super helpful if it exists.

In post 4082, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1040, Joey_ wrote:EBtw town circle for now -> kokichi, nero, sharizo and prob dunk

And this is why you don’t town block and then distribute based on said block.

Dunk is confirmed mafia and Shaziro could be SK.

Just stawp it.

In post 4083, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 2358, Joey_ wrote:Also spec wise, a religion spreader + invest role + some sort of blocking role makes sens for a scum team (this is conf bias too and gamma could lie and about his role as scum)
This also means that there might be an orange religion spreader? Hm

This makes sense

We need a list:

Who has gotten religious and who hasn’t? And do we know what religion does yet?

In post 4068, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 442, Joey_ wrote:Im breaking the RP because i feel like it keeps me from responding quickly to new stuff and it might hinder my wincon.

@Elbirn about Brass: I disliked most of his content, its especially pretty underwhelming compared to the rest of the table. That being said, my mind changed since i made that vote because he's obviously and very heavily softing that his behavior is explained by his role which IMO is not something i think scum just does. He also had that attitude since the very first post so this is coherent with his posting.

Also inb4 anyone try to push that i am fishing for claims, Brass implied something about his role easily 4-5 times since the beginning of the game, if you didn't notice yet then you are just not paying attention, me saying that in this post doesn't help scum as much as it helps town give the guy some space.

Dear Prime Minister of Stars,

If you feel the RP was stopping you from responding immediately at this point in time, and not the others what caused your stop? I wonder who or what was being pushed at that time. And why did you feel the need to respond immediately? (Yes I am a hyperposter

as well

I am

not

saying hyperposting is scummy. I am saying I need to ascertain the root cause)

This is what I call a “significant event”. Anything that causes yourself or someone else to make a playstyle change or a change in reads is a significant event. Those need to address the why.

Sincerely,

I fucking hate this RP and doing this to make a point

In post 4090, Joey_ wrote:

In post 4082, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 1040, Joey_ wrote:EBtw town circle for now -> kokichi, nero, sharizo and prob dunk

And this is why you don’t town block and then distribute based on said block.

Dunk is confirmed mafia and Shaziro could be SK.

Just stawp it.

In post 4083, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 2358, Joey_ wrote:Also spec wise, a religion spreader + invest role + some sort of blocking role makes sens for a scum team (this is conf bias too and gamma could lie and about his role as scum)
This also means that there might be an orange religion spreader? Hm

This makes sense

We need a list:

Who has gotten religious and who hasn’t? And do we know what religion does yet?

How could you go reading my iso from post 1040 to 2358 in literally a minute ???

In post 4089, Joey_ wrote:

Resolutions

Spoiler:

DAY 1

[

Ban Luxury

~ Silk]

PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.

Effect(s) Unknown.

[

Congressional Peace-keeping

~ brassherald]

PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to

brassherald

's Civilization, a move that is sure to curtail aggression in the region.

brassherald receives Protection Night 1.

DAY 2

Temporary Ban Gold

[/i]

PASSES

ivilizations around the world will monitor its effects going forward, but already it appears that the very wealthy and very religious are being hit hard by the move away from the gold standard. Effect(s) Unknown.

Temporary Ban of Ivory

 

PASSES

The World Congress is applauded for its conservation efforts, and animal rights activists begin contacting member Civilizations about expanding other initiatives around the world. No gameplay effect(s)

DAY 3

[Embargo City States]

PASSES

International Games PIDGEY

PASSES

 

Spoiler: Day 2 Options

DAY 2

1.

[Temporary Ban Gold]

[/i] (non-consec)

IMO hinting at kills in some ways, apparently you might get gold for blood. Also hinting that gold is linked to Religion and that Religious Gold is especially bad.

2.

[Temporary Ban Ivory]

(non-consec)

Saying that it lasted too long and that it's one of the worst thing humanity is doing to the nature. Elephant and rhinos are endangered (Africa?)

3.

[Temporary Ban Furs]

(non-consec)

2 Italian and 1 American clothing brands listed implying they are the leaders in the fur trade. Banning Furs can help protect those animals that are close to extinction, none animal are hinted.

4.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

Implies that the World Congress is going to act on said Nation and that is more than just denunciation.

5.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

This one is actually interesting. it says that the City States are really small and that they makes the global politics more complex and that it can interfere with the politic of the others bigger and powerful civilisation. IMO this could mean that there is 3p players with 3P win-con and Town win con. This one could shut-down their 3p win-con, in that way it would make the Global Politics simpler between the bigger and more powerful civilisations (Mafia and Town ?)

6.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 
Hinted to be linked to Culture (?). It says that we should protect the Cultural Natural Wonders around the world. Maybe it will affect everyone ?

7.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

In the same ways, it says that there is a Word Wonder in each and every Civ, might affect everyone ?

8.

Funding Arts

(non-consec)

It says that Art in general and around the world will get a boost and will flourish. The Resolution is to make or oppose the making of a program about art in every Civ.

9.

Funding Science

(non-consec, can self assign delegates)

This one is interesting too because it's not what i thought it was before reading the description myself.
Basically it says the the Science in general, around the world, will get a boost and will flourish. But, the resolution is about supporting or opposiong 1 Civ to talk about making a program about science in their own Civ. So this might actually boost Science scum even if we target the IC.

Spoiler: Day 3 Options

1.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

2.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

3.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 

4.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

5.

International Games Nation

(consec, can self-assign delegates)

 

***This one seems complicated, i prefer to wait for the IC to give me his thoughts! But basically you can nominate a player who will then gain some kind of advantage, like abilities? unsure

6.

SECRETO PEPITO

 

@BRASS im not sure if this one is a good idea to out as it might give info to mefias!!!

Gamestate 3.0

Alive

14/21

Spoiler:

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader ?	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader ?	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Dead

7/21

Spoiler:

Elbirn	Kokichi Oma	ActionDan	NeroCain
Weak Permanent BG	Neihborizer	VT	JK
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Varsoon
Role Cop
▓▓▓▓
Creature	Dunkerdoodles
Role Blocker	Pagan Spreader
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Spoiler: My reads

[

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Actually going to quote the whole post here since he also asked for resolution.. OTM how could you miss those posts ?

In post 4095, Joey_ wrote:FUCKING OPEN THE SPOILER GODDAMIT

In post 4097, Joey_ wrote:CLAIMS