Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:13 pm
to demoralize town
I think you’re too focused on mech. We should be basing this more on play - highest scum equity to lowest. This way if we’re wrong on both Enchant or STD, this game won’t take forever.In post 4072, Aristeia wrote:well it would take 4 days to elim all 4 VTs
we could do it in a day if we fast night every night or 8 days if we don't
I don't see point in protecting like that.In post 4078, Ausuka wrote:Ok I might have a better idea
Since I am guaranteed to survive the night, I will jailkeep randomly in [Save the Dragons, Titus]
Roden if scum has a 50% chance of being caught out and not knowing who I jailkept - since scum aren't multitasking.
This is a small upside since it's not a hard clear on Roden anyway, but there's no apparent downside to it
I looked back to when Roden claimed his results on Enchant. He claimed them after you claimed jk on Wallflower but he made it a point of saying that no one targeted Enchant. Had he wanted to save Wallflower, why say that? If Roden’s scum, he could say he cannot confirm results, couldn’t he? So by confirming no one visited Enchant, he guaranteed the mech guilty on Wallflower.In post 4081, Ausuka wrote:Roden can't kill and use voyeur at the same time
In post 2986, Wallflower wrote:What's the scum agenda though? I feel like Enchant can only be scum if scum with MathBlade.In post 2982, Aristeia wrote:town should never pick bp over ascetic cop
What do people make about this?In post 2992, Wallflower wrote:I think I'm with you on this, and I think Math is the way to go todayIn post 2987, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think atp we should just cut the massclaim now and avoid any further damage if it's this contentious
In post 1561, Wallflower wrote:Actually, you know what?
VOTE: Enchant
I don’t care about the numbers
In post 1585, Wallflower wrote:My thoughts might not make complete sense and maybe I have this pathological need to be DIFFERENT, but my understanding is that the main reason this matches Math-scum is the giving up on saving HEM rather than just continuing to push the townread, right? I am concerned by that too, but given the state of the game and especially HEM not even posting at the time, I can see a world where math truly feels that way.In post 1571, Titus wrote:I do think it's best to avoid talking to Math atm until he's ready to listen about how he's affecting people and how his communication isn't working. He's just not willing to. I'm not going to engage his opinions on me, but if someone thinks he makes a particular point they'd want my input on, I'd be glad to answer.
I don't think Math will be better until Dwlee or I flip or are mech cleared, even if I reasses on Dwlee. Math's positions make me not want to though even though I don't have a strong read on Dwlee. I just feel he is town.
Also, given the fact we're getting a Math wagon together,, I find Wallflower's timing off. Enchant strategically isn't be best lim for day 1 because he's a certain power role. If he took vengeful (pretty much a scum claim) it will not change. If he took ascetic cop, he'll get a result unless scum kill him. The only exception is that if Enchant took a one shot vig. He'd use it N1 and would have next to no idea who to shoot. However, there's a risk any scum takes the one shot vig.
When it comes to Enchant, it just feels… wrong to me that we have to let speculation about a role Enchant may or may not have take them off the table, especially when there’s no one else I actually could vote for right now and say “yeah that feels right to me”
This could be possible scum distancing. Votes Enchant when he was clearly in no danger. Trs him when he is then votes him while suddenly doing a 180 about not wanting to be limmed. I don’t think Wallflower thought she had a chance at not dying. She likely realized it would look bad for Enchant if she didn’t make an effort.In post 3979, Wallflower wrote:On balance, I think Roden is probably town. He hasn’t pinged me in the same way Titus and implosion have, but I often realise that I don’t actually think much about Roden. He’s not at the front of my mind, and I don’t think the reasons for townreading him are that solid. So, while he’s still more likely town than scum, he’s not as much of a townread as others.In post 3969, Harley Quinn wrote:Yes because you still haven’t explained that at all.In post 3967, Wallflower wrote:I've said all along (well for the last couple of RL days) that roden, enchant and gamma are at a similar place in my reads. Not my top picks for scum but possible.
First I'm asked WHY IS ENCHANT A TOWNREAD???
Then I say the same thing as the first line that I said a while back
Then I'm asked WHY IS RODEN A SCUMREAD???
seriously
On balance, I think Enchant is probably town. There are things about how Enchant has played that I think are quite townie for them (for e.g. the way that they went about the BP claim), but I don’t feel confident in my ability to read Enchant, and with a lot of people thinking they are scum, I have to admit there’s a reasonable chance I’m wrong. Sure, deep down I suspect that I am right, but I can’t be as confident in that as people I townread more.
In post 3863, Enchant wrote:Or you are bad at game.In post 3861, Harley Quinn wrote:I just don’t understand why scum wouldn’t have targeted Ari but fliiped scum!Wallflower doesn’t make these posts.
In post 3871, Enchant wrote:I will turn after second scum die and i am jailkept while kill happens.In post 3869, Roden wrote:You're not conftown, we've been saying you were going to get elim'd on Day 4 since the start of the game.In post 3860, Enchant wrote:You don't really want to see me walts with conftown status while bulletproof, do you?In post 3855, Harley Quinn wrote:Ari, Ausuka, Dwlee, Bella, Roden, Gamma all town. I’m very convinced of this. Titus, probably, Implosion maybe? STD who knows?
Who else is left other than Enchant?
Who's scum?
In post 3875, Enchant wrote:Because it's truth.In post 3874, Harley Quinn wrote:Why does this post seem informed to me?In post 3863, Enchant wrote:Or you are bad at game.In post 3861, Harley Quinn wrote:I just don’t understand why scum wouldn’t have targeted Ari but fliiped scum!Wallflower doesn’t make these posts.
In post 3935, Enchant wrote:You literally played with me once before and it was my towngame where you was scum.
Stop lying pls.
I love these last two posts, almost as amusing as his Ari’s the devil but we won’t lim her > HEM because of anime.In post 4053, Enchant wrote:Then why won't you selfvote?In post 4011, Gamma Emerald wrote:I would be down to clown if it got that far