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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:15 am
by Secret Tunnel
Bell I was saying earlier was just

Your statements of

I’m suspicious for acting the way I did around Alisae wagon
I’m experienced enough to know how scum act around town wagons

Or whatever paraphrased

Are contradictory and you cannot logically maintain both statements at the same time

-innocentvillager

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:16 am
by Secret Tunnel
In post 4098, zMuffinMan wrote:oh, thought it was something you wrote overnight. to be clear, you only just started panicking and thinking that you might be killed since day start? (even though mariaboy has been removed from the game, at least as far as voting/posting is concerned?)
Specifically because Maria was removed I think they’re suiciding with the trigger ready potentially?

-innocentvillager

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:16 am
by Secret Tunnel
But we were worried about this overnight took

-innocentvillager

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:17 am
by Bell
Would you or NS fake a PR as scum or have you faked a PR as scum before just to get out of efforting?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:19 am
by Secret Tunnel
I’ve never done that, idk why you’re asking us this though

-innocentvillager

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:20 am
by zMuffinMan
you guys don't think mariaboy were just outright lying or scum?

i sincerely doubt that's the 'trigger'

likely they're either scum whose role allowed them to leave the game for a day or they're town who got removed involuntarily

but i can't think of a good reason to justify the latter unless it can be repeated

though i guess we'll find out soon if it was or wasn't the 'trigger'

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:20 am
by Secret Tunnel
@muffin I was skimming around DL when it happened. My basic ideas of what would shake out-

1) They are town and going to blow up more town
2) They are town and scum RB them to try and force us in a 1v1 with them
3) They are scum and trying to 1v1 us themselves

I obv think 2 is a stretch. 1 is maybe because soft spot for AtE. 3 is just weird too though.

pedit-
If yall would stop posting so I can explain my POV

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:21 am
by Bell
I don't know.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:21 am
by zMuffinMan
is there a reason remilia is on a separate tier to your other strong town reads?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:22 am
by Secret Tunnel
NS’s TR is mostly meta based there so I didn’t really try to read Rem

-innocentvillager

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:24 am
by Secret Tunnel
(meta and figuring the odds of bork snowing me+morph were v low)

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:24 am
by Secret Tunnel
In post 4105, zMuffinMan wrote:you guys don't think mariaboy were just outright lying or scum?

i sincerely doubt that's the 'trigger'

likely they're either scum whose role allowed them to leave the game for a day or they're town who got removed involuntarily

but i can't think of a good reason to justify the latter unless it can be repeated

though i guess we'll find out soon if it was or wasn't the 'trigger'
I’m not great with closed mech so I defer to NS on that and he seemed pretty confident, when Maria left I guess I was like ehh might as well, thought it was consistent with the he suicide bombing us narrative

-innocentvillager

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:26 am
by zMuffinMan
so what's noddy's guess for the scum team?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:27 am
by zMuffinMan
hes being pretty quiet for someone who thinks he's gonna die soon lol

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:28 am
by Secret Tunnel
Do you want my tinfoil team because thats about where im at rn

pedit-

I have other stuff to do and I quite frankly know my reads dont hold much weight this game and given how this game is going thus far I am doubting them further

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:29 am
by Bell
To be clear.

1. NS thought you were going to die, but you didn't/weren't sure.
2. Instead of NS writing up the note, you did. 10 minutes ago. Because you trusted NS that you were probably going to die. Because you don't know who the scum are you didn't think it would be important to share your thoughts?
3. Your reads are an amalgamation of NS's reads and your own. Where you trust NS to have accurate reads or at least don't want to give him a hard time about them/question his logic?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:30 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 4105, zMuffinMan wrote:you guys don't think mariaboy were just outright lying or scum?

i sincerely doubt that's the 'trigger'

likely they're either scum whose role allowed them to leave the game for a day or they're town who got removed involuntarily

but i can't think of a good reason to justify the latter unless it can be repeated

though i guess we'll find out soon if it was or wasn't the 'trigger'
i think if that was the trigger they would of mentioned it, that'd be a pretty important detail to leave out and if they didn't know that's how their role worked that's a textbook bastard mechanic and would be against site rules

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:31 am
by Bell
In post 4114, Secret Tunnel wrote:Do you want my tinfoil team because thats about where im at rn

pedit-

I have other stuff to do and I quite frankly know my reads dont hold much weight this game and given how this game is going thus far I am doubting them further
Don't give us the tinfoil, just give us your honest thoughts on who's scum.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:33 am
by Secret Tunnel
I'm always honest lol

april/bulge/joyed was my tinfoil team

Re: today- it feels very much like aprils about to come in and say it has to be morph and just keep yelling about how morph is scum and we are scum and joyed is town and blahblahblah

To put it more simply I could see april doing that kill as a way to get an easy misclown off and I feel like this is a puppetmaster type game and that makes me most sus of april/morph/muffin but I dont think its morph and I think muffin looks more town than april

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:34 am
by Bell
In IV/NS world Bee/Maria are holding their trigger on their finger.
Where's that confidence coming from?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:35 am
by zMuffinMan
why's april scum?

and what made you guys think mariar was gonna bomb you?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:36 am
by zMuffinMan
theoretically if they were gonna use the bomb and that was the trigger, they're not exactly in a rush to use it, probably? literally dont have to post all day so it's not like they need to do it immediately lol

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:36 am
by Bell
If they're scum there are less variables involved in guessing that Maid cafe's actions are going as intended. Though I don't understand clearly why they don't think they could be lying. Though I do know that they were town reading them.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:38 am
by Secret Tunnel
The "We already discussed who to target" and then they start talking about various other reads and then slip us in at the last second as lock scum. Beeboy modded that scum game of mine we talked about earlier and I feel like a quick look through my ISO should look pretty different especially given how I spelled out my gameplan in the scum PT but maybe they werent paying attention

re:April its a gamestate read that I just explained. I think if theres someone rattling and shaking everyones heads up this game its them

pedit-
maria literally said she was doing it at daystart

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:38 am
by Secret Tunnel
In post 4115, Bell wrote:To be clear.

1. NS thought you were going to die, but you didn't/weren't sure.
2. Instead of NS writing up the note, you did. 10 minutes ago. Because you trusted NS that you were probably going to die. Because you don't know who the scum are you didn't think it would be important to share your thoughts?
3. Your reads are an amalgamation of NS's reads and your own. Where you trust NS to have accurate reads or at least don't want to give him a hard time about them/question his logic?
Almost exactly correct.

I think it’s been obvious that I’ve been mostly taking a backseat this game to let NS drive especially since he knows the plist better.

-innocentvillager