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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:07 am
by CloudKicker
Rain, you are wrong and you are use single piece of stupid information to tie that up with your read, which is something you accused me of doing at your replace-in

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:08 am
by CloudKicker
In post 4112, Sakura Hana wrote:You know Rainn has a point, it feels like everytime i want to lynch CK he just starts insulting me about "how he should be conf town to me".
Because you should Sakuara, its infuriating that you are wavering your read on me

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:09 am
by Sakura Hana
It's still manipulative.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:10 am
by CloudKicker
In post 4116, Rainn wrote:
In post 4111, CloudKicker wrote:d2, why do you put this lynch on my ass? I was like 4-5th vote and I was at work all evening, i saw the flip when i finished my shift at 23h something and was upset, i even sent a rage PM to the mod because the quick hammer should never have happened, never. My 4-5th vote was to make emphasis on scum's intent to have wheme produce content or claim, my vote wasn't to lynch him right then and there. Wheme did produce content and I would've unvoted, no one did and a bunch of scum votes finished the wagon in like a few hours.
Like...

you basically backpedal here.

First you claim to have suggested for the wheme wagon to not happen.

Now you claim to haven't made it in time to the thread to "save" wheme.

lol.

Ofc you also finish with your favorite line "it's conf bias".

I think pisskpop slot has good odds of being scum but your slot is just a priority here.

The ingenuity baffles me.
In post 4123, Sakura Hana wrote:Remember this?:
In post 1683, CloudKicker wrote:also sakure dont even imply that you are capable of independently doubting anything
It's just insults
In post 1956, CloudKicker wrote:you should be the single slot who should townread me the most because we are almost mechanically cleared to each other, but you are so blind that i need to state that for you
More insults.
In post 3818, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 3816, Sakura Hana wrote:Nor why you are so sure i am town.
Exactly, you dont even understand a basic pov tell
Even more insults.
Take a 5 minutes and read my town meta, thats textbook town me

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:12 am
by Sakura Hana
I mean, you're probably not the first player, but the first player in a very long time, that has me considering very hard voting you despite townreading you just coz im done taking insults.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:12 am
by Rainn
In post 4119, CloudKicker wrote:2. LAMIST is considering scummy on this site. What makes it scum indicative? What do you think is my motive by trying to be townread? Don't you think that motive could also come from town?
LAMIST means "look at me I'm so town".

It's different than town genuinely trying to be town read (look at distressed-me in d2 trying to town tell but also being sincere or at least as sincere as possible on it).

You don't try to look town by being genuine, sincere or explaining thoughtful reads.

Yo do it by hyper posting over-the-top posts in engaged talks that you quickly leave in the dust (you did all that talk about fish only to go back to primate, for example).

You also try to look town by making up stuff like you did in your interactions with Sakura, in your "I defended them so much" about unwind and...your complete lie about Wheme wagon.

You also public discourse everything. Every post you write is like a talk to the audience instead of being you going through the emotions/reads inside your head.

This behavior is scummy and if it wasn't it wouldn't be a tell in the first place. I don't care about your home site, even changing the amount of days in a game of mafia drastically change things.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:13 am
by CloudKicker
And yes I am manipulative if i need to be, if you aren't you don't play the game well. Sakuara d2 I had to convince you that I am town else id be lynched probably. You are the slot that should understand most that I am town from your pov, like we said earlier.

Its not important what people do, its important why they do, motives is gold in determining if something is AI, not the path taken.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:14 am
by Rainn
In post 4129, Sakura Hana wrote:I mean, you're probably not the first player, but the first player in a very long time, that has me considering very hard voting you despite townreading you just coz im done taking insults.
Sakura I want CK and you want Fish

Can we trade?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:14 am
by CloudKicker
In post 4130, Rainn wrote:
In post 4119, CloudKicker wrote:2. LAMIST is considering scummy on this site. What makes it scum indicative? What do you think is my motive by trying to be townread? Don't you think that motive could also come from town?
LAMIST means "look at me I'm so town".

It's different than town genuinely trying to be town read (look at distressed-me in d2 trying to town tell but also being sincere or at least as sincere as possible on it).

You don't try to look town by being genuine, sincere or explaining thoughtful reads.

Yo do it by hyper posting over-the-top posts in engaged talks that you quickly leave in the dust (you did all that talk about fish only to go back to primate, for example).

You also try to look town by making up stuff like you did in your interactions with Sakura, in your "I defended them so much" about unwind and...your complete lie about Wheme wagon.

You also public discourse everything. Every post you write is like a talk to the audience instead of being you going through the emotions/reads inside your head.

This behavior is scummy and if it wasn't it wouldn't be a tell in the first place. I don't care about your home site, even changing the amount of days in a game of mafia drastically change things.
Why do you dismiss all my post just to engage the most irrelevant fucking part and talks about semantics??

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:15 am
by Sakura Hana
Honestly speaking i SR OS harder than Fish, but wanted to solve the RP vs Fish shenanigans first.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:15 am
by CloudKicker
Rainn's content about the mechanics of the game were pretty good, but this whole push on me is objectively abysmal

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:15 am
by Fish Monger
In post 4132, Rainn wrote:
In post 4129, Sakura Hana wrote:I mean, you're probably not the first player, but the first player in a very long time, that has me considering very hard voting you despite townreading you just coz im done taking insults.
Sakura I want CK and you want Fish

Can we trade?
No, Id kill you first, were I scum

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:15 am
by Fish Monger
In post 4135, CloudKicker wrote:objectively abysmal
no

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:16 am
by Sakura Hana
I feel like we shouldn't go on a tangent on that but...
Im just tired of listening to CK.
I'll consider it.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:17 am
by CloudKicker
In post 4133, CloudKicker wrote:Yo do it by hyper posting over-the-top posts in engaged talks that you quickly leave in the dust (you did all that talk about fish only to go back to primate, for example).
Btw thats you having reading issue. Why do you even think its scummy to vote primate there? I said hes my top fos many times and i said fish was scummy. Can't I vote someone else than a recent fos? Like am I scummy for not OMGUSING someone i just 1vs1'd ? lold

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:18 am
by CloudKicker
Rainn's push on me wouldve been considered a scum claim in any decent table, its hilariously bad and content less

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:18 am
by Rainn
In post 4131, CloudKicker wrote:And yes I am manipulative if i need to be, if you aren't you don't play the game well.
That's a half-truth

When I don't fool around I'm usually the most town read player in the games. If I had to say anything, yes, it is because I'm manipulative.

When I start game as town, I really take care about first impressions and of explaining my thought process, as well as not being too flippant. I also try to make town cohesion get better.

However, what you've done is a different kind of manipulation.

hard insulting people, completely making stuff up, posting with ingenuity. That's scummy-manipulation.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:18 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 4139, CloudKicker wrote:Like am I scummy for not OMGUSING someone i just 1vs1'd ? lold
What does this even mean

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:20 am
by Rainn
In post 4133, CloudKicker wrote:Why do you dismiss all my post just to engage the most irrelevant fucking part and talks about semantics??
bc your posts are too large already, so making a long post to explain why you're wrong to each point you make, it's fairly tiring and no one would be interested in walls.

so i focus on one point mainly.

tbh the first point that sticks out to me as being bs.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:21 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 4140, CloudKicker wrote:Rainn's push on me wouldve been considered a scum claim in any decent table, its hilariously bad and content less
The funny thing, is that you have way less content than Rainn's push on you, and Rainn's push on you isnt even half his content.
If his push on you is "contentless" what does that make you.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:22 am
by Sakura Hana
Last time i heard from you you were like "LET'S VOTE WHOEVER THE MASONS WANT TO VOTE".

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:22 am
by CloudKicker
In post 4141, Rainn wrote:
In post 4131, CloudKicker wrote:And yes I am manipulative if i need to be, if you aren't you don't play the game well.
That's a half-truth

When I don't fool around I'm usually the most town read player in the games. If I had to say anything, yes, it is because I'm manipulative.

When I start game as town, I really take care about first impressions and of explaining my thought process, as well as not being too flippant. I also try to make town cohesion get better.

However, what you've done is a different kind of manipulation.

hard insulting people, completely making stuff up, posting with ingenuity. That's scummy-manipulation.
No one asked you, why do you give content you haven't been solicited for? yet you don't answer to my posts when I engage you on your content. See, that is scummy and a common scum tell. Also you dont think you are being manipulative? You keep saying that I am posting with ingenuity when I was being transparent from the start of the game and I answered the majority of your post about this topic, yet you keep the same opinion again and again, refuses to take new infos into consideration. Refuse to take into account the culture of my main mafia site in trying to read me. Thats not very towny of you is it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:22 am
by Rainn
Sakura, I can lynch both Fish and Oversoul as long as you also include CK there

I was planning to lynch OS anyway later.

I would rather like CK first thought tbh. I think he is the hardest one and if he is scum he will endgame just like okapoka did in colors.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:23 am
by Sakura Hana
VOTE: CK

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:23 am
by CloudKicker
lol okay whatever, Rainn won I am mafia