Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the suicide is really strange - I don't think bell was in any danger of dying today - I had Gamma/Cake/Midway all ahead of him on my list.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I love you too Pooky

You are the best <3

[Tammy]

@Tammy

what do you think?
I buy what Peta is selling me here

I've had misgivings on cakez/ds for a while; well I've been going back and forth on them and had trouble slotting them as town. Think ffery was starting to have cakez concerns last night as well.

They would fit my "I'm trying to slot people as town, listen to people's town reads on people that shouldn't be" mood that is usually the reason why I'm not comfortable with any scum reads. Peta fits that bill too though; my concern going into night was that he seemed to be bending over backwards trying to call nahdia town for any little thing but didn't give bulge that same type of consideration and it felt odd. (But sometimes confirmation bias works that way.)

Anyway, I want to reread and get my thoughts down. This is plausible, yeah, but I want to see how I feel reading through. We don't have many more chances at this.

[midwaybear]

Yeah, that was my thought about peta cuz he didn't seem to be really reconsidering his read on Bulge. I don't scumread him for getting the read wrong, but I feel like he would have been more receptive to Bulge town. Anyways, it could be a playstyle things and my vote is still on DS. We should probably go peta tmrw if this flips green though.

[Alisae]

I mean as long as me and pooky are alive you should be fine

[Alisae]

Like I promise you
As long as I am alive, I will make sure that you never die in this game.

[Tammy]

But i don't want this to happen until I have time to read. There's no reason to rush it.

[Alisae]

I don’t actually think Peta hardpushing Bulge like he did is the most amazing strategy as scum?
If that’s his strategy what does he does he win in the late game? By the time we get to late game he’s super suspect

[Tammy]

Like I promise you
As long as I am alive, I will make sure that you never die in this game.

<3

[Alisae]

But i don't want this to happen until I have time to read. There's no reason to rush it.

I have a habit of wanting to rush things but I’ll try to keep that in check.
Take ur time

[petapan]

my concern going into night was that he seemed to be bending over backwards trying to call nahdia town for any little thing but didn't give bulge that same type of consideration and it felt odd. (But sometimes confirmation bias works that way.)

i mean that is not at all atypical for me, you know, but i was correct not to jump to gamma and i was probably correct not to jump to nahdia (even though at one point i did put them second in my poe), i just locked myself in as the people who were outside the poe shouldn't have been, for the most part

[Alisae]

Also Peta said that he would refuse to wagon gamma if gamma came up because he was that confident in bulge
That would be suspect if gamma was scum but gamma was town so its points in his favor

[Tammy]

I don’t actually think Peta hardpushing Bulge like he did is the most amazing strategy as scum?
If that’s his strategy what does he does he win in the late game? By the time we get to late game he’s super suspect

I'm not saying he did, oh and for whoever thought peta as town wouldn't bus, my very first memory of peta is getting tunneled by a town him. (I was town and replaced into a slot he was already scum reading.) I think he eventually got over it though!

I mean if he's scum and playing tactic the plan probably isn't to win in lylo? It's just to push through to another day. I don't really think that's the case though.

[petapan]

i mean that would require the assumption i trust one of my partners to endgame more than myself and the only one who'd be close to fitting that bill is cakez

and as scum i

want

to endgame. i live for 3 way.

[Tammy]

keep it pg peta!

[Alisae]

Yeah if Peta is scum I don’t think he was thinking about the late game which to me would seem like he’s making a mistake so I don’t exactly think that scum!peta would make a mistake like that?
Either way I’ll let you re-read

Pedit: I don’t think Cakez ever wins late game and I think you’re the only person who can if you decided to employ a deepwolf strategy

Pedit2: Also I just remembered that Cakez saying that Bulge almost AtE’d out of being the lynch is just so bad

[Tammy]

I'm not arguing that's the case by the way. Just in the hypothetical why you would do that as scum world.

[midwaybear]

Alisae who did you doc?

[Tammy]

My two points of intense dislike for cakez was his mini-attack on ffery day one for saying her reads were proto-reads and his attack on bulge for his readslist.

[midwaybear]

Yeah Cakez is shady, but it might be is normal play. I would probably hang him by PoE though.

[Alisae]

Cabd

[Tammy]

Diamond Sentinel's play has made no sense. He feels missing from this game when he shouldn't be. And Taylor had that odd moment when she pointed out that she thought he was town at a point when it seemed weird to say it. Think someone debunked this bit though.

And I need to come to terms with my scumread of Nahdia, which I do think is a bit cofirmation bias at this point. They do have a few posts that feel genuine and townish, but as whole they just read so scummy. BUT I really did like their point that DS sounded like scum who thought it was unfair that there were so many masons.

Those are just little thoughts that I'm going into a reread with. It shouldn't take me too terribly long to reread though.

[Alisae]

Tammy I don't think Nahdia makes sense with Bell being scum.
I also just can't think of anyone for Nahdia to be paired with.

[midwaybear]

Why isn't Nahdia scum with Bell?

[Alisae]

Bell wanted to kill Nahdia and Nahdia wasn't doing anything that would indicate theater to me