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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:47 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
..I'm getting too upset. I'll be back in a bit.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:47 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 4148, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:There's very few players I expect to correctly find town-me; and you're one of them.
I can very very very rarely read you, and in this specific clusterfuck of a game, reading you isn't exactly easy.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:51 pm
by Nachomamma8
and i guess there's nothing i can do since i have work soon and you're leaving again.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:56 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
Well, I'm here, I'm just trying to calm down.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:56 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
Getting worked up doesn't really help anyone.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:00 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 4151, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4148, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:There's very few players I expect to correctly find town-me; and you're one of them.
I can very very very rarely read you, and in this specific clusterfuck of a game, reading you isn't exactly easy.
You under-estimate yourself. I've only really fooled you twice (1531 doesn't count because lol masons).

NY 165 and that one Vi upick that I shant name.

You've got me right in Walking Dead, Xenoblade, Perpetual Mylo, Chef mafia (fuck you for mislynching me anyways~) mismatching flavor (we nightkilled you for a reason bro) Pick and ban, We the Purple (it took you a while but you pegged me), red wedding, fire emblem....

So yeah, history kinda says you should be able to get me right.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:02 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
The fact that sakura got it right first should be your wakeup call, bro.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:04 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 241, morph the cat wrote:
In post 240, Lush Life wrote:but why don't you want to explore teriyaki's probably correct read on rememory?
Spayhalf aside, I have a crackpot theory that is probably down a rabbit hole on why not to; that I won't be elaborating on until it's relevant if it ever does become so.

I'm kind of already itching to townblock and so is spayhalf.
This is a strange interaction with flipped scum.
This elaboration would be wonderfully relevant now.
In post 256, morph the cat wrote:As for my other head, transparency is her thing.
You're right with this.
On a scale of 1-10, how transparent was ffery this game? (1)
Would you be reading ffery in the morph slot as town in my position? (no)
In post 350, morph the cat wrote:T {the inno child; kaze; gaiden; borkmolliejiffy}
This is the second weird interaction with flipped scum.

I don't think ffery's replace out was trust tell town levels like you said it would be. I think ffery's replace out was alignment neutral; I don't think she'd be happy to replace out as either alignment and just because you have a scum role PM doesn't mean that you can't get frustrated in all the same way. I'm sure you recognize that her getting lynched in Xenoblade instead of replacing out (especially considering this was before everyone was so raw with one another) doesn't actually mean that she has honor to stay in and take the lynch in the end: her staying in Space Mafia after Wake's idiocy shows that she can "take" a lynch as town as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:09 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 4157, Nachomamma8 wrote:This elaboration would be wonderfully relevant now.
Fuck if I remember, hang on, I'll have to mine google talk logs.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:09 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 4157, Nachomamma8 wrote:You're right with this.On a scale of 1-10, how transparent was ffery this game? (1)Would you be reading ffery in the morph slot as town in my position? (no)
about a 5 or so/dunno

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:11 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 4157, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't think ffery's replace out was trust tell town levels like you said it would be. I think ffery's replace out was alignment neutral; I don't think she'd be happy to replace out as either alignment and just because you have a scum role PM doesn't mean that you can't get frustrated in all the same way. I'm sure you recognize that her getting lynched in Xenoblade instead of replacing out (especially considering this was before everyone was so raw with one another) doesn't actually mean that she has honor to stay in and take the lynch in the end: her staying in Space Mafia after Wake's idiocy shows that she can "take" a lynch as town as well.
I'm well aware it's not true trust tell level, and as I hinted at before, she's probably raging in the dead/spoiler QTs that her replace out behavior has become the topic of discussion.

I'd kill to be able to post the relevant logs of our decision to half-replace out, but I can't, so you'll have to bear with me as I paraphrase them and strip timestamps.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:12 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 4157, Nachomamma8 wrote:This is the second weird interaction with flipped scum.
We both felt gaiden was acting natural and agreed with Kaze's little meta-dive. It reminded ffery of her and bork's dive on fuzzy in 1525.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:13 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 4152, Nachomamma8 wrote:i have work soon
Also I don't think I've told you "awesome that this exists!" yet so there, now I have.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:13 pm
by Nachomamma8
It would have been ignored almost entirely if you didn't bring it up as a major point of contention for your slot being town, if you didn't probably have the entire scumteam in your preliminary townlists, things like that.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:14 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 4163, Nachomamma8 wrote:entire scumteam in your preliminary townlists
You think the other three or four or whatnot are in my day one town list?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:15 pm
by Nachomamma8
Yes.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:15 pm
by Nachomamma8
aka probably
if you're town, muffin might be scum, dramonic seems scum...

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:16 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 2100, GoodCop_BadCop wrote: Action Dan
Waynegg
Lush Life
Tsukasa
Mac

Kazekirimaru
Muffin
Messiah Complex

Pieguy

^Untouchable Pile for today

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:17 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
I'm going to dinner, I'll be able to reply as cabd from my phone and will quote them later.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:17 pm
by Nachomamma8
last one might be in the true null/scum lean list, though

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:17 pm
by Nachomamma8
i was referring more to the joint list you made with prohawk

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:24 pm
by pieguyn
pdodge

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:35 pm
by Cabd
In post 4170, Nachomamma8 wrote:i was referring more to the joint list you made with prohawk
I'll hunt it down when I get back unless somebody wants to quote it for me.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:48 pm
by zMuffinMan
saki wrote:what do you all of you have against me anyways
posts like this
gcbc wrote:A combination of "kise already semi-outed me so I can't run any cool gambits" paired with over-eager "Hey cool, strongman flip, I'm practically confirmed town suck it scum" and also general frustration at certain aspects of the game.
so prohawk said that you did this partially as some sort of gambit to find scum. what did that mean?
gcbc wrote:And then we get shitpile after shitpile of utter GARBAGE dropped on us. She replaces out, giving up. I almost do so as well, but I've got a policy against it
this feels like huge exaggeration - especially given mollie was the only one piling this "garbage" onto you and nothing mollie said was even that bad
gcbc wrote:And then guess what? more shitpiles. Shitpile after shitpile after shitpile
also what is this referring to? jaqen?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:17 pm
by Cabd
In post 4166, Nachomamma8 wrote:aka probably
if you're town, muffin might be scum, dramonic seems scum...
How does me being town change muffins alignment, nacho? It's not like the crux of the issue, lush's result, is gonna magically change.