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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:42 pm
by The Pied Piper
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:If sky flipped town I was lynching tpp for them. They flipped scum so I am lynching their partner.
Everything combined with their bs soft claims and everything and refusal to claim = scum.
I have never ever ever in my life seen a player who is bad at sheeping.
Congratulations, you are bad at sheeping.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:49 pm
by True Ogre
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:If sky flipped town I was lynching tpp for them.
Possibility 1: Because Skybird was town and Piper was pushing them so horribly into a mislynch.
Disproven.
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:They flipped scum so I am lynching their partner.
Possibility 2: Because Skybird is scum and Piper pushed so horribly in throwing their buddy under the bus.
Why did you hammer Skybird then, if it gave you precisely no information and you thought she was town?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:52 pm
by Dwlee99
I didn't think they were town when I hammered. They claimed town post-hammer, iirc?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:07 pm
by True Ogre
No they didn't claim town after the hammer.
You'd said Skybird's claim seemed genuine, then something about her not being new, then hammered.
And
then
you said she was scum before she'd said anything else.
Then she asked if she was dead, and then she said good luck.
Then you said don't worry you'd lynch Piper for her.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:11 pm
by itlepip
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:I didn't think they were town when I hammered. They claimed town post-hammer, iirc?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:15 pm
by Dwlee99
↑ Skybird wrote:Thanks Cerb, that's what I meant. Oh well, good luck
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this is a town claim.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:15 pm
by Dwlee99
↑ True Ogre wrote:No they didn't claim town after the hammer.
You'd said Skybird's claim seemed genuine, then something about her not being new, then hammered.
And
then
you said she was scum before she'd said anything else.
Then she asked if she was dead, and then she said good luck.
Then you said don't worry you'd lynch Piper for her.
ftr her claim was genuine, she was a kingmaker.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:27 pm
by True Ogre
↑ Dwlee99 wrote: ↑ Skybird wrote:Thanks Cerb, that's what I meant. Oh well, good luck
!
this is a town claim.
"Oh well, I was town, good luck everyone" is a town claim.
When I read that post from Skybird I was at least hopeful that she was scum.
Why does the word "everyone" == a townclaim?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:30 pm
by True Ogre
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:ftr her claim was genuine, she was a kingmaker.
So you were reading the claim as genuine from setup-spec and not from the way she presented it?
You also said that if it was genuine it was positively town, so at that point you were believing the claim and presuming she was town?
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:Dont flash wagon sircakez or feel my wrath.
Skybird seems genuine in their claim. And if the claim is genuine the role is positively town.
Lynch TPP.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:45 pm
by Dwlee99
↑ True Ogre wrote: ↑ Dwlee99 wrote: ↑ Skybird wrote:Thanks Cerb, that's what I meant. Oh well, good luck
!
this is a town claim.
"Oh well, I was town, good luck everyone" is a town claim.
When I read that post from Skybird I was at least hopeful that she was scum.
Why does the word "everyone" == a townclaim?
Cause everyone includes town. imo wishing everyone luck is a town claim, scum generally wish luck to their partners
↑ True Ogre wrote: ↑ Dwlee99 wrote:ftr her claim was genuine, she was a kingmaker.
So you were reading the claim as genuine from setup-spec and not from the way she presented it?
You also said that if it was genuine it was positively town, so at that point you were believing the claim and presuming she was town?
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:Dont flash wagon sircakez or feel my wrath.
Skybird seems genuine in their claim. And if the claim is genuine the role is positively town.
Lynch TPP.
I read her claim as genuine. claim meaning her being a kingmaker, and as everyone mentioned a kingmaker makes little sense as a scum role but later cant remember what happened but they probably did something scummy and i wanted to lynch them off that
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:54 pm
by True Ogre
And when they did that scummy thing, it didn't make one dent at all in your Piper read. No impact.
Seamless transition from Skybird is being mislynched, to Skybird is being bussed.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:56 pm
by SirCakez
↑ Dwlee99 wrote: ↑ True Ogre wrote:Twilight Day 2 (before Skybird flipped scum, with you making the assumption they'd flip town):
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:don't worry sky I'll lynch tpp for you.
Your first post Day 3 after a Skybird scumflip:
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: TPP
Seniors let's do this.
Seems like you were committed to pushing Piper today regardless of how Skybird flipped.
Can you explain that please?
If sky flipped town I was lynching tpp for them. They flipped scum so I am lynching their partner.
Everything combined with their bs soft claims and everything and refusal to claim = scum.
So you're saying
If Sky flipped town you were going to lynch TPP
If Sky flipped scum you were going to lynch TPP
???
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:57 pm
by Dwlee99
Do you want me to go into skybird's iso to dig for associatives? Hint: I dont need to because tpp's claim is total bs and needs to be lynched
pedit yes cakez, that is what I am saying.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:58 pm
by The Pied Piper
What is my claim?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:00 pm
by Dwlee99
Skybird scum: Their scum/townreads are all wifom.
Skybird town: They scumread tpp and wanted them lynched
pedit A BS role that lets you know other town power roles and who has them and will be made clear when you flip, aka not a real rolr and you need to eat rope
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:01 pm
by The Pied Piper
I do not have a role that "lets me know other power roles".
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:01 pm
by The Pied Piper
And guess what? Never claimed that. Try again.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:03 pm
by True Ogre
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:Do you want me to go into skybird's iso to dig for associatives? Hint: I dont need to because tpp's claim is total bs and needs to be lynched
pedit yes cakez, that is what I am saying.
When you're so sure someone's scum you should be able to state your own reasons somewhat transparently without needing to dig, but sure go ahead.
All I'm hearing is "bull soft on Seniors" and I can't remember why you were scumreading Piper yesterday, I think it was "bull push on Skybird/Seniors"???
(Also I just did a tri-ISO on Rob, Skybird and Piper an hour or so ago and I can only see one associative indicator there. A connection is possible but extremely unlikely. Interested if you spot the same thing.)
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:04 pm
by The Pied Piper
Every single time I open this game I come a little closer to understanding how kuribo feels.
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:04 pm
by Dwlee99
it isnt the soft on seniors holy fuck. THEY SOFTED A TICTAC INNO
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:06 pm
by The Pied Piper
Correct. We said that we had reasons to believe that Tictac was town. Why was that assertion of ours scummy?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:06 pm
by The Pied Piper
Do you believe that there was a soft on Seniors?
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:08 pm
by Friendless Seniors
I think softing an innocent on scum probably adds to the scumminess of the situation
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:09 pm
by The Pied Piper
Oh good, both of you are here!
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:10 pm
by Dwlee99
↑ The Pied Piper wrote:that's what i wanted to hear. sorry, dreams are weird, and usually someone's alignment is the exact opposite of what I dream so if i dream they flip scum then they're always town (but of course i don't use that to clear them while i'm playing the game), but what is the "exact opposite" of benign third party?
↑ itlepip wrote:My point was that before someone says the obvious "OMG DON"T PUT YOURSELF IN YOUR AUTO CIRCLE!!" is not relevant.
meh, everyone has themselves in their own circle. i kind of roll my eyes when i see someone claiming to townread themselves but anyway carry on.
↑ Dwlee99 wrote:not crumbing softing same thing
↑ itlepip wrote:TPP what was your intention with that soft?
We've been saying we have
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to believe that tictac is town since the start of day 2. It's just the first soft that anybody paid any attention to
. I can't answer your question more fully without outing a bunch of PRs for no reason; sorry.
If anybody I believed to be town were in danger of being lynched I'd explain enough to prevent that from happening but as it is all you really need to know is that I have a townread on tictac that will be explained sooner or later. Possibly sooner not until my hydra partner is less busy.
EAT ROPE