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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:42 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 4142, Shoshin wrote: In post 4140, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The Reality/Wheme NKs either point to you or someone framing you. Why? Because no one else would feel threatened by either because they were VOYEURS and not WATCHERS.
Why would I feel threatened by them over someone like Random/Wisdom who are voting me no matter what I say? Wheme was at least changing his mind about shit, and Reality was about to reevaluate everything in the game after I died from Sajj's vig.
Remember, scum thought Sajj was going to shoot me.
Please stop insulting my intelligence. Lol
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:48 am
by Shoshin
To believe I'm scum, you have to believe the following:
1. I'm in the hood with Reality & Wheme or somehow have access to it.
2. I knew Nico was a macho cop prior to N2.
3. I'm a scum doctor who fakeclaimed bodyguard on D2 to Shepard, told him I was on Nico, and in fact protected Nico the same night that I also killed her.
4. I tried to stop a mislynch on Angel despite having no reason to do so as scum.
5. I tried to stop a mislynch on Sajj despite having no reason to do so as scum.
6. I killed Wheme, the guy who has been saying I'm town for a large portion of the game and has actually showed a willingness to reconsider his previous reads, instead of the people who haven't shown any indication of changing their minds about me (e.g. Random).
7. Chick preferred lynching me, her supposed partner, over Random.
8. I bussed Creature on D1 and D2.
In contrast, to believe that Random, the worst, or Wisdom is scum, you don't have to believe anything that crazy. To believe Random is scum, you have to believe:
1. Chick lied about being neighbored with Random and she was in fact neighbors with Reality & Wheme (no less likely than the idea that I have access to the Reality/Wheme hood), or alternatively
1. Chick and Random are scum neighbors (not that implausible given our mod)
Or to believe that the worst is scum, you just have to believe:
1. the worst bussed Creature on D2.
Or to believe Wisdom is scum, you just have to believe:
1. He's fakeclaiming.
Why's it so hard to believe they're scum compared with me?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:49 am
by Shoshin
In post 4150, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: In post 4142, Shoshin wrote: In post 4140, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The Reality/Wheme NKs either point to you or someone framing you. Why? Because no one else would feel threatened by either because they were VOYEURS and not WATCHERS.
Why would I feel threatened by them over someone like Random/Wisdom who are voting me no matter what I say? Wheme was at least changing his mind about shit, and Reality was about to reevaluate everything in the game after I died from Sajj's vig.
Remember, scum thought Sajj was going to shoot me.
Please stop insulting my intelligence. Lol
You should stop insulting mine... You're the one who is mislynching, not me. If you're smart, show it.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:50 am
by Nancy Drew 39
If there is a 4th, sadly by process of wagonomics but based on Shoshin’s heated reponses to the worst, that is some theater.
But I’m far from sold on that. Both random and the worst posted that they’re were 4 scum not 3. I have trouble seeing the scum motivation in that but if the game doesn’t end today, we can re-evaluate.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:50 am
by Shoshin
Reality believed that I had access to her hood.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:50 am
by Shoshin
Fuck this. You've already made up your mind...
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:50 am
by Shoshin
You're not engaging me in good faith, Nancy. This is very disappointing.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:52 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 4152, Shoshin wrote: In post 4150, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: In post 4142, Shoshin wrote: In post 4140, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The Reality/Wheme NKs either point to you or someone framing you. Why? Because no one else would feel threatened by either because they were VOYEURS and not WATCHERS.
Why would I feel threatened by them over someone like Random/Wisdom who are voting me no matter what I say? Wheme was at least changing his mind about shit, and Reality was about to reevaluate everything in the game after I died from Sajj's vig.
Remember, scum thought Sajj was going to shoot me.
Please stop insulting my intelligence. Lol
You should stop insulting mine... You're the one who is mislynching, not me. If you're smart, show it.
Yep, I’m definitely convinced now.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:53 am
by Nancy Drew 39
Prove it. Post the quote.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:54 am
by Nancy Drew 39
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:55 am
by Shoshin
lmao read the game. I literally have done this multipel times now.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:57 am
by Wisdom
In post 4151, Shoshin wrote:Or to believe Wisdom is scum, you just have to believe:
1. He's fakeclaiming.
lol
Yeah, lets not mention catching and lynching chick, or the fact that reality and wheme are both kills id never do
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:01 am
by Wisdom
dunno why im answering, i know exactly what youre gonna answer
"blah blah chick was scumread by everyone" - bs, nobody was voting or pushing her when i replaced in
"blah blah wifom" - yeah wifom is shit. I simply don't kill ank, the person who knows me the best in this playerlist, when he is townreading me and is suggesting lynches i agree with. I simply dont kill wheme when hes scumreading the same people i am and when nancy is showing signs of scumreading him. Both are terrible nightkills id never ever do.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:01 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 4128, Wisdom wrote:nancy, its shoshin and tw
Unless its only one scum left, in which case it's just shoshin
In post 4130, Wisdom wrote:Like, your only option is to push it's tw solo but youre not even doing that
So its prolly both of you
Or the game just ends with a town win?
Shoshin is hedging her bets. She still could bus. Her pushing you is really bad. Taly was the first one to call TPF scum. And Shoshin criticizes others for not reading the game.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:02 am
by Shoshin
I'm done.
Nancy, you're not engaging me in good faith. I'm not playing further games with you.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:04 am
by Wisdom
and what even is your point with that quote? Ank was just speculating
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:05 am
by Wisdom
yeah from what i read taly was pretty accurate
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:06 am
by Shoshin
Of course Ank was speculating. That's why I kept saying her scumread on me was so bad. She believed the only way I could be scum was if I had access to her hood, and she believed I did in fact have that access.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:07 am
by Wisdom
i dont understand why youd need hood access to be scum
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:09 am
by Shoshin
Why would scum protect the cop from their own nightkill?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:09 am
by Wisdom
because gambit
mastina and ank did it in minuet
we've already covered that
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:11 am
by Shoshin
The protected a cop from being nightkilled? Why?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:11 am
by Shoshin
I haven't read Minuet, but I'd like to know WHY they protected their nightkill?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:13 am
by Shoshin
In post 3351, Reality Check wrote:It requires neighborhood access though, otherwise there's no motivation to protect Nico as scum.
The gambit "
requires
" neighborhood access. REQUIRES.
That's not speculation. That's a clear statement about what the gambit requires, from the person who performed the gambit in Minuet.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:14 am
by Shoshin
The gambit is unlikely because (a) I claimed bodyguard, not doctor, prior to performing the action, and (b) we're talking about a cop who scum needed to kill, lest the cop get off more investigations.