Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Succinct]

[*]Your Flubber trajectory is fake.
[*]Your reads are fabricated.

Saying they're fake doesn't make them so.
I can explain everything I've posted.

[*]You are going after low-hanging fruit.

Something I'm adverse to as scum, but care little for as town, because low-hanging fruit can and do draw scum.

[*]You've been flying under the radar, deliberately avoiding drawing attention.

Alternatively: this is my playstyle. I've done nothing to fly under the radar. People calling me town because of Enter's their choice, not mine. It's actually annoyed me the whole game; I've wanted to be townread because of

my

contribution, not his. I can't force people to pay attention to me.

[*]Your predecessor has been guilty of all of the above.
[*]Your predecessor is guilty of shadethrowing town.

I can't answer for these and you know it.

[*]Your position on Flubber is the perfect position that scum would have loved being in.

I voted at first available opportunity. I don't often move votes, to a fault. Moving my vote's a big deal.

I think you've made a sizable number of mistakes in this game. That's not to say you've been playing poorly, in fact, I think you've played well, because town didn't manage to catch you. So it is just your poor luck that Tohru replaced in and managed to identify your sneaky plans almost immediately, and ruining your narratives and your strong control over the game.

Nice to see the line of people bragging they "caught" me only to be wrong grows by one more game. Why am I not surprised.

1. It's clear that even if the statement is true, it is clear you are unable to play as optimally as you would be able to on your main, because of the gimmick being a handicap/additional complexity. Maybe it makes you more transparent (This is not necessarily bad!). Or maybe it does impede both your town and scum games, I don't know!

My gimmick makes it harder to play town, but more rewarding; it has zero effect on my scumplay.

I myself understand the frustration when a perfectly smooth scumgame is ruined by an over-the-top late-game replacement which threatens to destroy the narratives that you have been working over the course of a whole month to build up. It really does suck that I am taking the win away from you.
I... think I need to think about this.

You've no intention to think; were you to, you'd realize the frustration's from the obvtown player I most trust to read me and work with me was replaced by the antithesis of that. Even if you didn't scumread me, I doubt you'd work with me.

@Succinct, do you not have a scumgame anywhere?

Of course not. I avoid replacing into scum slots deliberately. I'd get no challenge from them.

Anyway, No, I don’t consider every Flubber voter to be town. My point was that you’re reasoning wrt to self-preservation in this game vs. protecting the scumteam don’t apply in this game, because if even one scum fails to escape, it’s essentially game over.

My point's that the view "not everyone voting Flubber was town" and the view "scum protected their scumbuddy knowing they needed to escape" are mutually exclusive. If someone voted Flubber was scum, they were inherently not protecting their scumbuddy.

@succinct
did you like go back to check this post?

Actually, yes; after 4017, I went back to my first post, isoed you from that point, searched Flubber, and checked; I found 2171 immediately. For the reason you mentioned (you didn't mention Flubber), I deemed it not worth mentioning. (Anything you don't see me address falls in this category. Since I only quote about 1/20 posts, you can assume I find 19/20 not worth mentioning.)

like i shouldn't look askance at the fact that you haven't engaged with flubber (your biggest scumread!) because you haven't engaged with *anyone* because they haven't engaged with you? that's like shifting your responsibility for sorting people off of your shoulders and onto everyone else's

...So?
I don't see the problem with letting others do the work, as long as the work's getting done. It's more succinct to let others handle it than to hash it out myself, yes?

elbirn's still town

I still want a reminder why.

[Tohru]

This discussion has long stopped being about finding scum and game solving but instead extrapersonal and hot tempers.

If you are lost and do not feel that you are in the mood to think, if you are exhausted, or if you are fatigued from the game, please vote Succinct with me and end this.

Spoiler:

I have been put through hell in the last couple of weeks. Good to know I can always count on the callousness of some people on MS to make that more tolerable.

This is why I'm encouraging you to vote Succinct with me and end the game ASAP.

Your current emotional/mental state (as well as Reck's, this applies to you too) makes it abundantly clear that judgment is impaired and are therefore unable to perform the more mentally-draining aspects of scumhunting effectively.

I'm proposing a very strong and effective solution to end your problems, I really need you to help us with it though.

[xRECKONERx]

i think i know who both nim & tohru are and tbh im exhausted by it

Hello Mister Reckoner, I really need your vote. With your vote and Nimueh's vote on Succinct we can end this game and everyone can leave. Please help us.

yeah if you keep calling me mister reckoner like some fucking weeb roleplayer im going to just vote you out of annoyance

So you're joining the negativity and flame train now?


Yeah, I didn't sign up for this.

im trying to be civil but im drunk and im bringing a lot of baggage into this based on who i think you are so i am just gonna leave

You're certainly wrong about who you think I am, but I do find it eyebrow-raising that you have a thing against "weeb cosplayers" as if my replacing-in has made any change on the cultural faction of my slot. Ankamius and his Brandon alt also had "weeb" avatars.

Yeah, I can tell you're drunk. Vote Succinct with me and call it a day.

couple things:
1. i dont think im wrong about who you are because youre about 2% as subtle as you think you are
2. i really do hate weebs and anime avatars and that's a longstanding fact
3. where in the everloving fuck did you get that my hatred of anime avatars has resulted in a change on your slot?
4. you can go haul off and fuck the entirety of yourself for taking a cheap drunk jab at me

[Nimueh]

If I am doing something wrong, then fair

Spoiler:

but this is straight up mean spirited bullying and cruel entirely unwarranted harassment. You should feel ashamed. @Chara.

I think I will only play in alts from now on, only way to guarantee I don’t get abused.

You're doing something wrong! You're not voting Succinct with me. Please change that!

Nobody likes being abused. But it's inevitable that in life you'll meet rude people or people who dislike your style of play for no apparent reason at all. The best way to deal with that is to not let their words bother you.

That’s hard, when I’m literally being attacked for no reason whatsoever, other than trying to solve a game.

[xRECKONERx]

for the record, im like 90% sure who succinct and nimueh are too just by basic posting style and quirks

im just not dragging that shit out here

you, specifically, tohru ive had an issue with in the past, i think

and anyway, it doesn't matter. meta is useless. i guess im partially upset i played a game with some of these people and partially upset that a goddamn mini game has bloated to 167 pages on day 3 and i feel no closer to knowing what the shit is going on

[xRECKONERx]

i posted a fucking mammoth readcase on elbirn earlier and 0 people have commented on it or had a reaction to it

which i guess basically fucking summarizes why i hate this game right now

[Tohru]

If I am doing something wrong, then fair

Spoiler:

but this is straight up mean spirited bullying and cruel entirely unwarranted harassment. You should feel ashamed. @Chara.

I think I will only play in alts from now on, only way to guarantee I don’t get abused.

You're doing something wrong! You're not voting Succinct with me. Please change that!

Nobody likes being abused. But it's inevitable that in life you'll meet rude people or people who dislike your style of play for no apparent reason at all. The best way to deal with that is to not let their words bother you.

That’s hard, when I’m literally being attacked for no reason whatsoever, other than trying to solve a game.

Yeah? Reck's attacking me for only having an anime avatar, so join the club.

Please help me vote Succinct. I notice you haven't voted him yet.

I joined this game to play Mafia not Shrink.

[xRECKONERx]

wow i make a random comment about how you have an anime avatar and i dont like anime avatars and suddenly you and nimueh are SOUL SISTAHS because you're feeling So AtTaCkEd RiGhT nOw

hard pass

within the game, im more likely to stick with elbirn but i would probably hammer succinct because 4150 is pinging me as coming from a very comfortable place and i feel like we're likely to have at least one scum between succinct/elbirn so fuck it

[Succinct]

okay i'll agree with that.
Enter's replace out and the leadup to it was really towny and i should just concentrate on that regardless of how i feel about Succinct.

Chara:

Did you read this?

considering this is Succinct's only scumread, i wonder why they didn't go harder on it,

I can't go harder than I do.
You expect me to bs reasons?
I made my points.
They held.
Nobody engaged those points.
No new points were raised; nothing changed existing points.
What more

could

I have done?

Honest question, because I genuinely could use the feedback from the answer.
What you saw

was

me trying.
If my trying wasn't good enough, tell me what needed to be better.

or consider

why

scum Flubber decides to try and live another day for seemingly no reason.

I was tired, I was exhausted, I was dejected. It wasn't worth the effort. I knew he wasn't getting lynched. I wasn't happy he wasn't getting lynched, but nothing I said or did would change it. I couldn't argue we should lynch him in spite of the claim, because from a theory standpoint we

should've

let him live, and I

knew

that theory.

How would you feel knowing the correct theoretical play's to let your scumread live, in spite of a bs claim?

Elbirn/Succinct/NMSA left
there

The fact Elbirn and NMSA are my scumreads should tell you which person's town.

[Nimueh]

Spoiler:

I know it seems too much to ask but you would think it would be possible, to have even one day in the last two fucking weeks, when I catch a break from literally balling my eyes out for hours. Did I commit some terrible crime in a past life or something, because the is like some bad film noir parody or something.

[Chara]

i posted a fucking mammoth readcase on elbirn earlier and 0 people have commented on it or had a reaction to it

which i guess basically fucking summarizes why i hate this game right now

sorry for not commenting. i liked it. just voting Succinct because of Tohru.

Succinct's two most recent posts have convinced me that's more likely town, actually.

[xRECKONERx]

Spoiler:

I know it seems too much to ask but you would think it would be possible, to have even one day in the last two fucking weeks, when I catch a break from literally balling my eyes out for hours. Did I commit some terrible crime in a past life or something, because the is like some bad film noir parody or something.

sorry you feel this way but it probably doesn't belong in a mafia game tho

[Tohru]

wow i make a random comment about how you have an anime avatar and i dont like anime avatars and suddenly you and nimueh are SOUL SISTAHS because you're feeling So AtTaCkEd RiGhT nOw

hard pass

within the game, im more likely to stick with elbirn but i would probably hammer succinct because 4150 is pinging me as coming from a very comfortable place and i feel like we're likely to have at least one scum between succinct/elbirn so fuck it

Chill dude. I want out of this game as much as you do. I need Nimueh's vote and you can hammer and we can all live happily ever after.

[xRECKONERx]

I want out of this game as much as you do.

and yet you just signed up for it ...........?

whatever im not engaging this for the time being
it's either fake or completely disassociated from reality and im not sure which

[Chara]

and i've let a lot of scum go on claims that should be left alive, theoretically.

[Tohru]

I want out of this game as much as you do.

and yet you just signed up for it ...........?

whatever im not engaging this for the time being
it's either fake or completely disassociated from reality and im not sure which

I signed up to play a Mafia game but apparently it's bundled with everyone's sob stories, toxicity, and interpersonal squabbles as well.

[Chara]

Chill dude. I want out of this game as much as you do. I need Nimueh's vote and you can hammer and we can all live happily ever after.

tris is town so i don't see this ending the game.

[Tohru]

Chill dude. I want out of this game as much as you do. I need Nimueh's vote and you can hammer and we can all live happily ever after.

tris is town so i don't see this ending the game.

It's too bad we're lynching Succinct and not tris.

[Chara]

oh, i miscounted how many town votes we need on scum. we don't need everyone. was thinking this was mylo for some reason.

[Tohru]

oh, i miscounted how many town votes we need on scum. we don't need everyone. was thinking this was mylo for some reason.

10 players alive. 8 town alive. 6 players to lynch.

{Tohru, Elbirn, Skitter, Chara, ?, ?}

[xRECKONERx]

I want out of this game as much as you do.

and yet you just signed up for it ...........?

whatever im not engaging this for the time being
it's either fake or completely disassociated from reality and im not sure which

I signed up to play a Mafia game but apparently it's bundled with everyone's sob stories, toxicity, and interpersonal squabbles as well.

okay so like last time ill respond ooc but:
when you replace into a game with people you know dont want to play with you under an alt and then get all indignant that people are upset about playing with you when you fail to hide who you are.................dont be shook
also like fr you and nim are the main people FOR REAL leaning into the "woe is me" sob story shit so like maybe take the persecution complex down a couple notches

in any case, i posted a giant readthru of elbirn 2 pages ago and you have yet to actually say anything about it so id LOVE your thoughts

[Succinct]

i think i know who both nim & tohru are and tbh im exhausted by it

You absolutely do, and I'm not surprised.

you, specifically, tohru ive had an issue with in the past, i think

Can vouch for. You're who I had in mind for 3994. (Don't remember if Tohru's actually on it, but I know you had issues with him previously at least.)

i posted a fucking mammoth readcase on elbirn earlier and 0 people have commented on it or had a reaction to it

It was a good case, but I had nothing to say for it beyond believing it was a good case. My bad. <3

[Tohru]

Trying very hard to get Nimueh & Reck to just finish this but instead they flood the thread with negativity instead of just putting themselves out of their misery.

[xRECKONERx]

@succinct: very quickly, can you just link to a game that you think gives you reason to think i have negativity with tohru's main acct?

[Chara]

i don't see that vein going anywhere good, Reck.