Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[Spiffeh]

Yes, Manatee confirmed she was corrupted on Night 2.

[Annie Edison]

PA is your husband around? (Not bc I don’t want to talk to you I have a question specifically for him)

[Medea the Alien]

Thanks, I scanned her ISO and didn't see it.

Oh, hi Annie, I have a question for you! Why did you get all snarky at me about questioning your logic in suddenly not wanting to be sharded after being halfway to demon voluntarily anyways, then turn around and ask Cabd if hey, this thought you had that maybe getting the second shard made sense after all, is it legit?

--PA

[Medea the Alien]

You probably don't get Cabd for an hour or so; work meeting.

--PA

[Annie Edison]

I don't think I said it made sense to get a second shard, I explained my logic viewing it as like keeping a game in odds/evens. I invited correction if I was incorrect, but that was my view because at the time scum didnt have lol2shardsandcorruption.

I also was admittedly annoyed that I kept getting so much shit for being paranoid about you guys then you started getting paranoid about me and Im just like "ok."

I was also annoyed I kept getting yelled at over titus elim even though I apologized like 10 times

basically tldr im childish but was trying to limit how much hit the thread

[Medea the Alien]

I'm here now. But only sporadically.

[Annie Edison]

I slept on the corrupter stuff.

Do you remember our conversation about my gameplan if I drew godfather?

Does that make any sense from a manatee-scum PoV?

[Spiffeh]

I thought PA was gonna spit some fire about AA9 given her question about Manatee was answered and I would feel vindicated

I am disappointed this hasn't happened yet

[Medea the Alien]

I slept on the corrupter stuff.

Do you remember our conversation about my gameplan if I drew godfather?

Does that make any sense from a manatee-scum PoV?

I think it's unlikely to be manatee lass at this point.

[unwnd]

You may not be getting vindicated Spiffeh

But that recent post from Medea? I sure am

[unwnd]

My problem is that my heart is too big and my brain too small.

[Medea the Alien]

But that recent post from Medea? I sure am

Which?

[unwnd]

One above me

[Annie Edison]

Hm.

CephTD who’s scum?

[Medea the Alien]

Universe A:

It's {pooks, cephtd, scumcorrupter} and we need to get the corrupter.

Universe B:

It's {pooks, cephtdthecorrupter, ???} and we need to lim cephtd.

Universe C:

It's {pooks, ???, ???} and we need to get the scum corrupter but game is already over because I don't forsee NOT eliminating cephtd.

[Snarky Fishes]

Universe A:

It's {pooks, cephtd, scumcorrupter} and we need to get the corrupter.

Universe B:

It's {pooks, cephtdthecorrupter, ???} and we need to lim cephtd.

Universe C:

It's {pooks, ???, ???} and we need to get the scum corrupter but game is already over because I don't forsee NOT eliminating cephtd.

Still want to read the scumcase.

[Medea the Alien]

Are they not in your scumpool?!?

What exactly is the shape of your leftovers?

[Snarky Fishes]

Right, I forgot we did that. So then what is the corruption that Manatee received?

We were corrupted on N3. Want us to elaborate on that or do you want it from manatee in particular?

[Snarky Fishes]

Are they not in your scumpool?!?

What exactly is the shape of your leftovers?

I came into Day 4 wanting to push unwnd and Spiffeh.

I'm not convinced dragons are scum, and I'd really like to see your case.

[Spiffeh]

Ffery thoughts on AA9 based on what I’ve provided today?

[Medea the Alien]

Having spiffeh in your scum pool at daystart is extremely shocking to me, even prior to his clear.

[Snarky Fishes]

Ok Manatee confirmed earlier that they were corrupted on Night 2. I assume they also got demonized on Night 2 (since I received two shards and was demonized on Night 3). Assuming this to be true and Manatee is telling the truth, this implies that scum can both corrupt and give shards to the threshold of demonization to the same player in the same night. We know that Manatee was the target of this ability on N2, and Snarky has claimed to be corrupted so they seem to have been the target on Night 3.

This leads to an important question:

Who was corrupted on Night 1?

It seems like something that immensely furthers the scum alternate win condition that they seem to be going for, and since Annie Edison publicly had one shard from the handout on Day 1 and the fact that scum can corrupt AND give shards to the same player in the same night, why wouldn't they use corrupt+give shard to {ANY PLAYER}/give shard to Annie Edison to lock in two demons the first night? We know they didn't do this because Annie Edison claims to have been demonized Night 2.

The fact that no one is claiming to be corrupted Night 1 indicates to me that scum did not have access to this ability on Night 1. Even if it's X-shot there is no reason for them to wait to use this ability because what if the player with this ability was limmed Day 2? Then they wouldn't have been able to make use of it. So there must have been another reason that scum didn't use the corruption ability Night 1.

Probably because they needed to demonize the teammate with this ability in order to use it

. That makes sense because it feels like an OP ability and a mechanics-based delay on this role seems like a good idea for balance purposes. And demonization resolves the next Day so scum wouldn't be able to start corrupting until Night 2 at the earliest.

Guess who claims to have received two shards and been demonized on Night 1 and thus the only player who could have gained the ability to corrupt?

I have started as a human and turned into a demon after receiving two shards on night 1.

This is assuming that scum don't have another way to distribute shards/demonize themselves, which I think is a reasonable assumption. Someone check my logic, but

this makes it VERY LIKELY that ArcAngel9 is the Corrupter.

She should be the next player to claim.

ArcAngel's demonization always felt odd to me outside of this. She got some pressure from Annie Edison on Day 1 but she exited Day 1 being almost universally townread so why bother demonizing her more likely lims for the day like myself or CephTD?

Why do you think scum would choose players likely to be eliminated to demonize?

[Snarky Fishes]

Having spiffeh in your scum pool at daystart is extremely shocking to me, even prior to his clear.

Explain the clear to me?

[Snarky Fishes]

Are you talking about the fact he was human when Rhea checked him N3?

[Annie Edison]

You should have reread day two Medea. It’s not surprising.

He’s not scum though.