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↑ Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Everyone should just be abusing freelo Renekton right now.

insert lulu, ruin day

Gotta love troll premades that decide they will double jungle and leave me solo bot as janna.

Oh well i was having fun with sion in the end.

↑ zoraster wrote:

↑ animorpherv1 wrote:I'm so fucking sick of losing every match and not being able to do anything about it. I just feel like I've gotten worse. I don't even know what to do anymore.

Man. You have had a rough time lately. Fortunately it hasn't been ranked?

Also, stop playing with JDamage. You've played 12 times with him and lost every single time.

First of all, if was on this forum (he hates forums for some reason) you'd already be torn to shreds. It's a bug of his so it's become a bug of mine over time.

i also do not have enough words that simulate "no" here, because he's my best friend. Even if he is D5.

I have no idea what the first paragraph means.

But as to the second, you're the one who came into the thread bemoaning your losses, which is fair. But I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that maybe playing a bunch with a Diamond guy who you have a 0-12 record playing with has something to do with it.

↑ zoraster wrote:I have no idea what the first paragraph means.

But as to the second, you're the one who came into the thread bemoaning your losses, which is fair. But I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that maybe playing a bunch with a Diamond guy who you have a 0-12 record playing with has something to do with it.

I think he's complaining about you getting his friend's name wrong

Also I 100% agree, don't play at Diamond MMR if you're not Diamond and then complain about getting stomped

Oh. That's pretty high up there on "petty things to care about."

↑ Psyche wrote:i want to win winning is fun
but i also probably want to stay adc

http://imgur.com/a/p5mCJ

This is the infographic for ADCs that Penguin is using to learn. It's not perfect but it's a great help for starters!

If you want to do the ADC thing, grab Ashe and Sivir. Both are pretty strong and only 450 IP. If you're spending RP, I'd suggest Lucian or Graves. Having an escape built into your ADC kit is pretty awesome. Don't spend more than 450 IP on a champion until you've filled at least your primary role's rune page.

↑ zoraster wrote:Having an escape built into your ADC kit is pretty awesome.

So, I agree with this 800% when you're learning. Don't learn on Kog, learn with an escape. Ashe is great too because she has the slows and the giant flying dildo ult for 450ip.

I also recommend Corki for learning, he's fun, has a boatload of magic and true damage for when everyone else goes AD as well, and has some casting in his kit for fun weaves. The only issue is that his "escape" is like a bullshit 4000 second cooldown, and is easier to flay than the enemies of House Bolton.

ashe seems too popular at the moment; i shant touch her
but i do already have sivir, though i feel as if i've forgotten how to use her
i will try out sona

↑ Cabd wrote:

↑ Psyche wrote:i want to win winning is fun
but i also probably want to stay adc

http://imgur.com/a/p5mCJ

This is the infographic for ADCs that Penguin is using to learn. It's not perfect but it's a great help for starters!

There's no ashe in that list.

AND NO TEEMO

↑ Oman wrote:[...] easier to Flay than the enemies of House Bolton [...]

I love this reference

↑ Oman wrote:So, I agree with this 800% when you're learning. Don't learn on Kog, learn with an escape.

/disagree

Learn ADC on a champion on which you need to care more about your positioning. It's much better to learn to position well early on and then later supplement it with escape skills than it is to learn to rely on escape skills early on and then trying to shed bad habits later.

Teemo isn't a marksman, and this infographic was made pre-ashe rework and woulda been useless anyways.

↑ Maestro wrote:

↑ Oman wrote:[...] easier to Flay than the enemies of House Bolton [...]

I love this reference

I do, too. Even if I loathe House Bolton.

↑ DeathRowKitty wrote:

↑ Oman wrote:So, I agree with this 800% when you're learning. Don't learn on Kog, learn with an escape.

/disagree

Learn ADC on a champion on which you need to care more about your positioning. It's much better to learn to position well early on and then later supplement it with escape skills than it is to learn to rely on escape skills early on and then trying to shed bad habits later.

i disagree with this is more effective than the reverse as tempting as the "bad habit" line is. Anyway, adcs with escapes are pretty prevalent: Lucian, graves, Corki, Tristana, Caitlyn all have escapes. Learning to play with escapes is still learning to play and positioning with escapes should be different than without.

↑ zoraster wrote:

↑ DeathRowKitty wrote:

↑ Oman wrote:So, I agree with this 800% when you're learning. Don't learn on Kog, learn with an escape.

/disagree

Learn ADC on a champion on which you need to care more about your positioning. It's much better to learn to position well early on and then later supplement it with escape skills than it is to learn to rely on escape skills early on and then trying to shed bad habits later.

i disagree with this is more effective than the reverse as tempting as the "bad habit" line is. Anyway, adcs with escapes are pretty prevalent: Lucian, graves, Corki, Tristana, Caitlyn all have escapes. Learning to play with escapes is still learning to play and positioning with escapes should be different than without.

I think knowing not to stand within x distance of a Riven as a squishy champion, for example, is a much better thing to learn early than how to press a button and get out of danger that you should be learning to anticipate (and you have flash to learn that anyway). Trial by fire. If you're not dying for getting into situations that will later bite you in the ass, you won't learn not to get into them.

Cait's a great first adc, because she can bully lane but her escape is limited and you learn to manage mana effectively with it. I guess same goes for corki W post-mana increace nerf

↑ zoraster wrote:But I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that maybe playing a bunch with a Diamond guy who you have a 0-12 record playing with has something to do with it.

Going to post some recent games I played without him, then.

I almost singlehandedly threw this game 3 different times.
Ranked!
Volibear top
Mordekaiser!
Mordekaiser again!
Kassadin top

It's not me playing with diamonds.

Game 1: No defensive stats/QSS is a ballsy move. You're not Zed, you dont automatically get out of every fight.
Game 2: Your mid and top lost horribly. I don't think you're entirely the cause of this loss?
Game 3: Shyv's damage is actually pretty mixed and the rest of their team is mostly AP, you'd probably have gotten more out of Sunfire/Randuin than FH. Also it's always better to complete your Bracer item than to build a second one.
Game 4: Heal Ignite on a no mobility/no CC champ is not something I'd recommend. Jayce is also a fucking awful matchup for Morde, but Team Builder so yeah...
Game 5: Everyone lost. See game 2.
Game 6: You picked Kass into Trynd. YOU ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAAAAAME! :p

↑ dramonic wrote:Game 3: Shyv's damage is actually pretty mixed and the rest of their team is mostly AP, you'd probably have gotten more out of Sunfire/Randuin than FH. Also it's always better to complete your Bracer item than to build a second one.
Game 4: Heal Ignite on a no mobility/no CC champ is not something I'd recommend. Jayce is also a fucking awful matchup for Morde, but Team Builder so yeah...

I only really want to comment on these two, and game 6.

Game 3 - I was ahead and started to get BORK (my one-item Volibear instawin damage item)- at this point, Shyv started out damaging me after being DOWN KILLS, CS, AND LANE PRESSURE. So I felt like the best item to counter shyvanna was frozen heart, as a lot of her damage comes through her autoatacks directly or the %hp from her e + autos. Also, I was building warmogs. That takes 2 bracers.

Game 4 - I was trying out a method of playing morde that works for a friend of mine. I do generally run flash/ignite.

Game 6 - I wanted an AP champ so we couldn't have everyone build armor and have us lose lategame, and I didn't know what to play that is a magic damage threat that beats trynd - I don't think it exists. So I picked for the team, and not lane.

That all said - my only point I'm making here is that it's not the fact that I only lose when I play with diamonds. Which is not true.

↑ animorpherv1 wrote:Game 6 - I wanted an AP champ so we couldn't have everyone build armor and have us lose lategame, and I didn't know what to play that is a magic damage threat that beats trynd - I don't think it exists. So I picked for the team, and not lane.

Vlad Teemo Malphite Kennen Maokai Swain Mundo Lulu Singed

Don't own, Don't play, Isn't a damage threat, Don't own, Isn't a damage threat, Didn't play at the time, Don't play, Don't own, Don't play.

↑ animorpherv1 wrote:Game 3 - I was ahead and started to get BORK (my one-item Volibear instawin damage item)- at this point, Shyv started out damaging me after being DOWN KILLS, CS, AND LANE PRESSURE. So I felt like the best item to counter shyvanna was frozen heart, as a lot of her damage comes through her autoatacks directly or the %hp from her e + autos. Also, I was building warmogs. That takes 2 bracers.

Her only physical damage is AA and Q. The most significant damage when skirmishing with her is gonna come from W, E procs and Cinderhulk. Didn't know Warmog's build path tho so k.

Game 6 - I wanted an AP champ so we couldn't have everyone build armor and have us lose lategame, and I didn't know what to play that is a magic damage threat that beats trynd - I don't think it exists. So I picked for the team, and not lane.

Their team's only "bruiser" is nunu. Elise, Trynd and Jinx can't armor-stack. Against a team like that you couldve gone AD and it would've been okay.

I'm not trying to criticize, I'm just saying what couldve gone better