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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:33 pm

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krazy thinks scum would bus after one of their teammates got lynched

and then wagons texcat with dunstral, one of his scumreads sheeping him
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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:35 pm

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Yeah, that lines up!

I think you also might be higher than Dunn on my list at this point. So your displeasure is my... pleasure.

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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:36 pm

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like you said it was first impression reads and then you completely ignore them

pretty useful
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:37 pm

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In post 4149, Creature wrote:though, lately I've been like "but damn, that player might be just pretty lynchbait"

and like a lot of players rn feel like lynchbait
ooh pick me pick me!
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:38 pm

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In post 4178, Ankamius wrote:
In post 4149, Creature wrote:though, lately I've been like "but damn, that player might be just pretty lynchbait"

and like a lot of players rn feel like lynchbait
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:39 pm

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I don't have any scumreads currently

why is your vote on scum
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:48 pm

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In post 4180, Ankamius wrote:I don't have any scumreads currently

why is your vote on scum
because voting scum is how i win


tbh the best way to see this is to go look at tex iso

the short version though:
she casts a lot of naked votes, shadecasts others for casting naked votes
of the votes she casts and directions she pushes, it's usually on the softest targets - today she expressed suspicion on wave/rob, but did nothing with it and then just sheeped mylowagon
most of her contribution is null points, townreads, etc that don't stick her neck out - there's actually very little town-motivated pushing anywhere
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:56 pm

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mylo is town

texcat is less sure but so-so at best
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:02 pm

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don't understand how we're letting these players away with soft defending wheme

and then letting them wagon the most lynchbaity players in the game aka the weak players
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:02 pm

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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:03 pm

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In post 4183, Golden Robster wrote:don't understand how we're letting these players away with soft defending wheme

and then letting them wagon the most lynchbaity players in the game aka the weak players
is this not what tex did?
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:03 pm

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In post 4181, TehBrawlGuy wrote:she casts a lot of naked votes, shadecasts others for casting naked votes
of the votes she casts and directions she pushes, it's usually on the softest targets - today she expressed suspicion on wave/rob, but did nothing with it and then just sheeped mylowagon
most of her contribution is null points, townreads, etc that don't stick her neck out - there's actually very little town-motivated pushing anywhere
this is literally any lurker
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:05 pm

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In post 4185, TehBrawlGuy wrote:is this not what tex did?
when did she soft defend tex?

also is this question sarcasm because you're asking me for empirical validation about your argument?
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:05 pm

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wheme*
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:10 pm

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In post 4187, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 4185, TehBrawlGuy wrote:is this not what tex did?
when did she soft defend wheme?

also is this question sarcasm because you're asking me for empirical validation about your argument?

in referring to potential CFDs off wheme:
In post 3032, texcat wrote:What about Mylo?
also here:
In post 3098, texcat wrote:
In post 3039, Flavor Leaf wrote:The fact that Wheme, Lalendra, and Mylo are on PP also points towards PP town. They’re either scum joining on, or town that is being used a scum sheep votes for scum.

Wheme likely has the worst ISO in this game, to be honest. We had Wave, who I think is town, alongside the masons and Penguin being the only ones on the Wheme wagon initially when PP was picking up steam.
Have you looked at Mylo's ISO? Have you looked at ArcAngel's ISO (though it has improved somewhat with BrawlGuy's replace in)?
In post 3096, Scioness Sajj wrote:After yesterday I feel okay with my vote on Wheme.

I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.
I have this sneaking suspicion that scum is controlling this game. Perhaps it's just my bad gut. The one advantage that town has over scum is numbers. And we give up that advantage when so many players are not playing.

Yesterday when we started consolidating wagons, it looked like it was going to be either Performer or Wavemode. And then it actually ended up being Performer and Android. And today, it looked like it was going to be Penguin and Robster, but now it's looking like Penguin and Wheme. Based on this alone, I'd say Wavemode and Robster are likely scum.

it's a legitimate question, imo she soft defended wheme and has been voting lynchbait players for most of the game
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:10 pm

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In post 4181, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 4180, Ankamius wrote:I don't have any scumreads currently

why is your vote on scum
because voting scum is how i win


tbh the best way to see this is to go look at tex iso

the short version though:
she casts a lot of naked votes, shadecasts others for casting naked votes
of the votes she casts and directions she pushes, it's usually on the softest targets - today she expressed suspicion on wave/rob, but did nothing with it and then just sheeped mylowagon
most of her contribution is null points, townreads, etc that don't stick her neck out - there's actually very little town-motivated pushing anywhere
I skimmed texcat's ISO and I don't understand this case at all.
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:11 pm

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In post 4190, Ankamius wrote:
In post 4181, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 4180, Ankamius wrote:I don't have any scumreads currently

why is your vote on scum
because voting scum is how i win


tbh the best way to see this is to go look at tex iso

the short version though:
she casts a lot of naked votes, shadecasts others for casting naked votes
of the votes she casts and directions she pushes, it's usually on the softest targets - today she expressed suspicion on wave/rob, but did nothing with it and then just sheeped mylowagon
most of her contribution is null points, townreads, etc that don't stick her neck out - there's actually very little town-motivated pushing anywhere
I skimmed texcat's ISO and I don't understand this case at all.
do you want to not skim it
or ask anything that i can clarify
or suggest other options
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:12 pm

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In post 4189, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 4187, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 4185, TehBrawlGuy wrote:is this not what tex did?
when did she soft defend wheme?

also is this question sarcasm because you're asking me for empirical validation about your argument?

in referring to potential CFDs off wheme:
In post 3032, texcat wrote:What about Mylo?
also here:
In post 3098, texcat wrote:
In post 3039, Flavor Leaf wrote:The fact that Wheme, Lalendra, and Mylo are on PP also points towards PP town. They’re either scum joining on, or town that is being used a scum sheep votes for scum.

Wheme likely has the worst ISO in this game, to be honest. We had Wave, who I think is town, alongside the masons and Penguin being the only ones on the Wheme wagon initially when PP was picking up steam.
Have you looked at Mylo's ISO? Have you looked at ArcAngel's ISO (though it has improved somewhat with BrawlGuy's replace in)?
In post 3096, Scioness Sajj wrote:After yesterday I feel okay with my vote on Wheme.

I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.
I have this sneaking suspicion that scum is controlling this game. Perhaps it's just my bad gut. The one advantage that town has over scum is numbers. And we give up that advantage when so many players are not playing.

Yesterday when we started consolidating wagons, it looked like it was going to be either Performer or Wavemode. And then it actually ended up being Performer and Android. And today, it looked like it was going to be Penguin and Robster, but now it's looking like Penguin and Wheme. Based on this alone, I'd say Wavemode and Robster are likely scum.

it's a legitimate question, imo she soft defended wheme and has been voting lynchbait players for most of the game
what makes 3032 and 3098 scummy though

this looks like the type of thing I'd post as town when I'm getting a really bad feeling about how the day is going
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:14 pm

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idk

something's really wrong about this game
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:15 pm

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the fact that wheme flipped scum?

i'll give you that they make sense from worried town, but the posts also vibe from the perspective of a scummate who thinks wheme is potentially savable
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:17 pm

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this was supposed to be the focal point of today
In post 3507, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3300, Flavor Leaf wrote:Remember who is stalling back and forth.
yeah this needs to be the precedent for d3.
instead we got this

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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:18 pm

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In post 3456, Ircher wrote:
Day 2 VC #37 (LYNCH)Golden Robster (0) -
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (1) -

Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (0) -
Andriod18 (1) -
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (1) -
Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (0) -

Myloninja13 (1) -
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (0) -
Not Voting (1) - Frozen Angel

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline
Day 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:15 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:15:00).

Moderator NotesWhemeStar is V/LA on July 14.
Seeking a replacement for EspeciallyTheLies (who requested it) and Andriod18 (who failed to pick up their prod).
Prodded Pine. They have (expired on 2018-07-14 15:25:53) to respond in-thread
with game-relevant content
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Unless I find a replacement before the end of the day, there are no plans to extend the day's deadline.

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History
Day 2
Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral (4): Myloninja13 () --> JarJarDrinks () --> PenguinPower () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk () --> (Null) () --> PenguinPower () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Creature () --> WhemeStar () --> Wavemode () --> Scioness Sajj () --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Flavor Leaf () --> (Null) () --> PenguinPower () --> WhemeStar () --> (Null) () --> WhemeStar ()
Pine (1): Andriod18 ()
Creature (3): Myloninja13 () --> PenguinPower () --> WhemeStar (*)
Kublai Khan (5): Flavor Leaf () --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> PenguinPower () --> WhemeStar ()
WhemeStar (4): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Flavor Leaf () --> PenguinPower ()
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 () --> Kublai Khan () --> (Null) () ==> (Null) () --> WhemeStar ()
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () --> PenguinPower () --> WhemeStar ()
Ausuka
(7): PenguinPower () --> Myloninja13 () --> Flavor Leaf () --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 () --> TehBrawlGuy () --> WhemeStar ()
Lalendra (7): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Andriod18 () --> Flavor Leaf () --> (Null) () --> PenguinPower () --> WhemeStar ()
EspeciallyTheLies (1): PenguinPower ()
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 () --> EspeciallyTheLies () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () --> Flavor Leaf () --> (Null) () --> Flavor Leaf () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () --> WhemeStar ()
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan ()
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 () --> Myloninja13 ()
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat ()
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) () --> Wavemode () --> WhemeStar () --> (Null) () --> WhemeStar () --> (Null) () --> WhemeStar ()
Vaxkiller (5): WhemeStar () --> Myloninja13 () --> PenguinPower () --> WhemeStar () --> PenguinPower ()
Wavemode (6): Texcat () --> Andriod18 () --> Flavor Leaf () --> (Null) () --> WhemeStar () ==> WhemeStar ()
PenguinPower (7): Myloninja13 () --> Kublai Khan () --> Flavor Leaf () --> Myloninja13 () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () --> WhemeStar ()
Myloninja13 (1): PenguinPower ()
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 () --> WhemeStar () --> PenguinPower ()
Flavor Leaf (5): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan () --> PenguinPower () --> Golden Robster () --> WhemeStar ()


Spoiler: Previous Voting History
Day 1
Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):
Osuka
() --> Texcat () --> Lalendra () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
Srceenplay
(0): (Null)
Performer
(5):
Osuka
() --> TheRampage () --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()*
Joral
(0): (Null)
Almost50
(8): Hopkirk () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 ()
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):
Almost50
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka ()
--> JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () --> (Null) () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()
Pine (2):
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Creature (6):
Performer
() --> Myloninja13 () --> TheRampage () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()
Kublai Khan (6):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Scioness Sajj () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
WhemeStar (3): Lalendra () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Flavor Leaf ()
Hopkirk (9):
Osuka
() --> Lalendra () -->
Osuka
() --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Edosurist (2): Texcat () -->
Almost50
()
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller () --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()^
Ausuka
(9): JarJarDrinks () --> Creature () --> Myloninja13 () --> (Null) () --> TheRampage () --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() --> Lalendra () --> Andriod18 ()
Lalendra (3):
Almost50
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
EspeciallyTheLies (2):
Almost50
() -->
Performer
()
Lovebird (1): Edosurist ()
Davesaz (1): Wavemode ()
Frozen Angel (3):
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
JarJarDrinks (8):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Charles510 () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 ()
Osuka
(10): Wavemode () --> JarJarDrinks () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Pine () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() --> TheRampage () -->
Performer
() --> Vaxkiller () -->
Performer
()
Texcat (4):
Osuka
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan () --> Lovebird () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
()
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat () --> TheRampage () --> Texcat () -->
Performer
()
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) ()
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Andriod18 () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Golden Robster () --> Wavemode () --> TheRampage () -->
Performer
()
Wavemode (5): Texcat () --> Charles510 () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
TheRampage (3): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
()
PenguinPower (1):
Performer
()
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Scioness Sajj (4):
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Flavor Leaf (1): Andriod18 ()

Pre-GameDunnstral (2): Texcat () --> Pine ()
Srceenplay
(1): Andriod18 ()
Pine (1):
Osuka
()
Kublai Khan (1): Pine ()
Hopkirk (1):
Osuka
()
Edosurist (1): Pine ()
Osuka
(2): Pine () --> Wavemode ()
Texcat (1): Pine ()
Wavemode (1):
Osuka
()
No, that doesn't make sense with this, TBG.

I think Whemestar was heavily bussed from what I'm seeing so far, and Texcat being on a Mylo wagon for 1000 pages before the hammer doesn't fit that theory at all.
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:19 pm

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Somewhat related question: What has Frozen Angel's activity looked like throughout the game?
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:21 pm

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I mean I was with you on the Dunn wagon and mostly all you've done is complain about other people's wagons rather than pushing it. Why is Dunn better than tex, Rob?
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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:22 pm

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In post 4197, Ankamius wrote:Somewhat related question: What has Frozen Angel's activity looked like throughout the game?
absent from a good portion of d2 and d2 lynch

she was fine when she replaced
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