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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:43 am
by DrewVa
In post 3946, davesaz wrote:According to a working theory I have on how to identify town!Gamma, this ISO is coming up a big negative.
In post 3966, davesaz wrote:Did I mention that Gamma's ISO comes up not town according to a work-in-progress method I have for reading him? Giving full details would reduce the usability of the tell, but I can say there is something specific lacking from his game which has been present the past several times I've seen him as town.
No way is Davesaz, Underdog. :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:48 am
by Fortian
Yeah there's not a world where Daves with Gamma/Chick given he's pushed both pretty strongly at times, was one of the bigger helps in getting Chicka lynched D1.

Pretty sure FL is just always town and legitimate here. Also we're a wasted investigation, can effectively self-confirm tomorrow if need be, wouldn't mind some confirmation that Wisdom is town here.

@Profii - Just 100% confirming that your result is that Amzela isn't any form of group scum here, right?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:51 am
by DrewVa
In post 4164, ruru wrote:
votecountWith 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

BuJaber (5):
Wisdom (4075),Flavor Leaf (4099),Fortian (4137),DrewVa (4138),profii (4161),
Not voting (5):
BuJaber,Tails,davesaz,DrippingGoofball,Amzela,

(expired on 2018-12-28 05:45:00) remain.

Spoiler: mobile-friendlier
BuJaber (5):
Wisdom (4075), Flavor Leaf (4099), Fortian (4137), DrewVa (4138), profii (4161),
Not voting (5):
BuJaber, Tails, davesaz, DrippingGoofball, Amzela,
According to Profil, there are likely 2 SKs in this game.

Us/Profil/Wisdom/FL are not amongst them.

Tails/Amzela? I guess DGB, possibility but they sound more neutral 3P than SK.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:53 am
by DrewVa
In post 4176, Fortian wrote:Yeah there's not a world where Daves with Gamma/Chick given he's pushed both pretty strongly at times, was one of the bigger helps in getting Chicka lynched D1.

Pretty sure FL is just always town and legitimate here. Also we're a wasted investigation, can effectively self-confirm tomorrow if need be, wouldn't mind some confirmation that Wisdom is town here.

@Profii - Just 100% confirming that your result is that Amzela isn't any form of group scum here, right?
So Profil got an inno on Amzela?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:55 am
by DrewVa
@Profil, could you please elaborate more on your odd-night SK kill theory?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:00 pm
by DrewVa
Fortian, probably town here as well.

@Fortian, Profil did some VCA that had Wisdom and us, voting similarly. If Wisdom is scum here, he’s accomplishing it by playing against his wincon.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:22 pm
by ruru
votecountWith 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

BuJaber (5):
Flavor Leaf (4099),Fortian (4137),DrewVa (4138),profii (4161),Wisdom (4171),
Not voting (5):
BuJaber,Tails,davesaz,DrippingGoofball,Amzela,

(expired on 2018-12-28 05:45:00) remain.

Spoiler: mobile-friendlier
BuJaber (5):
Flavor Leaf (4099), Fortian (4137), DrewVa (4138), profii (4161), Wisdom (4171),
Not voting (5):
BuJaber, Tails, davesaz, DrippingGoofball, Amzela,

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:46 pm
by DrewVa
Longest time between L-1 and hammer, ever.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:34 pm
by BuJaber
FL continues to lie. He could not have targetted me even if he tried.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

@Nancy - I don't think I'm wrong about your personality if I got your alignment right. Your continuing misunderstanding of so many roles and flips in this game is scummy just as an exsmple but based on your passionate arguments with so many players here in the I've concluded that you're town because you felt very different than overkill 1.
Thor had a different and conditional wincon and had a wild shot. He wasn't town. He was 3p.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:46 pm
by DrewVa
you're hardclaiming ascetic?

/misunderstanding roles again

-d

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:50 pm
by BuJaber
No and I have no interest in full claiming. You either believe me over FL based on my play throughout the game or you don't. I know most of you don't know me well but I've been scumhunting very well and it shows.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:00 pm
by DrewVa
In post 4183, BuJaber wrote:FL continues to lie. He could not have targetted me even if he tried.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

@Nancy - I don't think I'm wrong about your personality if I got your alignment right. Your continuing misunderstanding of so many roles and flips in this game is scummy just as an exsmple but based on your passionate arguments with so many players here in the I've concluded that you're town because you felt very different than overkill 1.
Thor had a different and conditional wincon and had a wild shot. He wasn't town. He was 3p.
Why couldn’t FL have targeted you?

No, it’s not “scummy”. Anyone who knows my meta, knows that’s 100% NAI for me. Thor may have been 3P but his wincon, was nevertheless pro-town. So, that isn’t a valid argument.

Wrt my “passionate arguments”, this is the first time you’ve said that. You said I was town for my “confidence”, iirc?

And that isn’t AI for me at all. I knew I was eventually doomed in Overkill 1 and I was going to be lynched eventually, that’s why I wasn’t confident. I was pretty confident in Heroes Wanted, so only the “passionate argument” thing, is actually a good reason for townreading me. I also never fake my emotions as any alignment. So, ATEing, derping, confidence, are all 100% NAI for me.

In Overkill 1, you were very different. I have felt something was off about your posting from early into the game.

I feel FL is being very genuine here and having played with town!him in YGM, I feel fairly confident, that he is also town here.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:04 pm
by DrewVa
In post 4185, BuJaber wrote:No and I have no interest in full claiming. You either believe me over FL based on my play throughout the game or you don't. I know most of you don't know me well but I've been scumhunting very well and it shows.
You’re at L-1, I think you need to full claim here. Ye?

So, if you are asetic, you need to claim it now.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:09 pm
by BuJaber
Passionate argument with people about your cases does come off as very confident. The two are closely related. If you think I'm talking about AtE then I'm sorry for using the wrong words. AtE is never AI just because it's AtE. There's town AtE and scum AtE.

How was I different in overkill 1? If you think I was then you have to expand your view of my meta. This is only the 2nd time you've seen my town game.

I know that FL didn't target anyone. That's all you need to know

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:12 pm
by Flavor Leaf
lol, if you're trying to soft potential tracker, Lt. Mustang already flipped tracker.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:14 pm
by DrewVa
In post 4188, BuJaber wrote:Passionate argument with people about your cases does come off as very confident. The two are closely related. If you think I'm talking about AtE then I'm sorry for using the wrong words. AtE is never AI just because it's AtE. There's town AtE and scum AtE.

How was I different in overkill 1? If you think I was then you have to expand your view of my meta. This is only the 2nd time you've seen my town game.

I know that FL didn't target anyone. That's all you need to know
No, you need to explain WHY, if you want to get votes off of you.

Alchemist21 was town tracker, so how would you know that? Based on Clem fake claim, we also no. that there’s no motion detector in this game either.

So, I don’t believe there are 2 town trackers in this game.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:15 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Someone hammer. If I'm lying I'm lock scum, and you can kill me tomorrow.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:16 pm
by BuJaber
TIL tracker is the only investigative in the game.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:17 pm
by DrewVa
In post 3728, Almost50 wrote:
As for N3, we had Two additional deaths; Alch & Alonzo.


Alchemist21 was...


Spoiler:
You are "Barney Ross" (from: The Expendables
2010
and follow ups). As a
Town Tracker
you are tasked with finding some baddies and exposing them before the whole town ends up in the graveyard.

Obviously this means you have the standard win con of the Town; which is to eliminate all evil to get your win. GOOD LUCK

"I got a feeling everyone else passed on this job."
"I didn't come after you, dipshit! I came for HER!"

Now just PM me back with your role so I know you understand it and are up for the task.


and...


Alonzo was...


Spoiler:
You are "Deke DaSilva" (from: Nighthawks
1981
). As a conservative street cop; your powers are limited and your investigation reports are not yours to announce.

In other words, you're an
Amnesiac Vanilla Cop
who's investigation results are received and handled by "someone else", so just do your duty and leave it for your superiors to decide what to do with the results.

Deke DaSilva
: Lieutenant? I just got these latest transfer orders from the Captain.
Lt. Munafo
: Yeah, don't sing me any operas. I'm not feeling well right now and I'm in a bad mood.
Deke DaSilva
: I'm not gonna sing any operas. I'm talking about these transfer orders. Come on, Munafo. I've been working Decoy for nine years and now I'm pulled and I'd like to know why.
Lt. Munafo
: Hey, don't start with me. It's Lieutenant. You don't know me well enough to call me Munafo. But I know you, DaSilva. The gung-ho Lone Ranger of the street crime unit. Well, you can forget about that because we've been asked to cooperate with a special federal/state unit, and we will. You and Fox have been assigned to an ATAC unit.

Obviously
you are aligned with the Town
and have the standard win con of eliminating all evil to get your win. GOOD LUCK.

Now PM me back with your role so I know you understand it and are up for the task.
@Bujaber, you should have checked all the flips, before you softed this. :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:18 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4192, BuJaber wrote:TIL tracker is the only investigative in the game.
there's a watcher flipped, alongside Alonzo's vanilla cop which is attached to my role. Also Profii.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:18 pm
by DrewVa
In post 4191, Flavor Leaf wrote:Someone hammer. If I'm lying I'm lock scum, and you can kill me tomorrow.
Anyone who can, hasn’t posted yet.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:19 pm
by BuJaber
Since you need it spelled out.

JK.

N1: RCE
N2: RR
N3: DGB
N4: FL

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:20 pm
by BuJaber
Woooow ..that was so hard to figure out.. the soft was right in front of you

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:21 pm
by BuJaber
If scum kill me instead of wasting their shot on my planned target I blame you

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:22 pm
by DrewVa
In post 3727, Almost50 wrote:
These were the flips of the 4 found corpses


Nero Cain was ...


Spoiler:
You are "Lincoln Hawk" (from: Over the Top
1987
). Although this town is crime infested you are more concerned about winning back your son and winning at the world arm wrestling championships. You're a trucker though, so that must count for something.

OK, you are a
Bus Driver
aligned with the Town. With some good skill and reads you can very much sway this game Town's way, or you can severly demolish all it's chances to eliminate this evil.

"What I do is I just try to take my hat and I turn it around, and it's like a switch that goes on. And when the switch goes on, I feel like another person, I feel, I don't know, I feel like a... like a truck. Like a machine."

"All I can say is I made a mistake. I know that. You know, sometimes that happens in life. We all make mistakes, but it won't happen again."

As always; you win when all threats to town have been eliminated. GOOD LUCK.

Now just PM me back with your role so I know you understand it and are up for the task.


Malakitty was ...


Spoiler:
You are "Marion Cobretti" (from: Cobra
1986
). You are a tough-on-crime street cop, and you must protect the innocents from all the violence that has plagued this town.

You thus are a
non-weak
Elite Body Guard
aligned with the Town. Your job is to die for the cause, so let's hope you don't die defending the wrong person, but even if you do; chances are you're taking another bad guy with you.

"I don't deal with psychos. I put them away."

You have the standard win con of the Town; which is to eliminate all evil to get your win. GOOD LUCK.

Now just PM me back with your role so I know you understand it and are up for the task.


CheekyTeeky was ...


Spoiler:
I dunno what to say. You are "Stud/The Italian Stallion" (from: The Party at Kitty and Stud's
1970
). All you need to know is it was an X-rated flick, so with no further ado: You're a
Mafia Roleblocker
).

Kitty
: Someday you'll be known as the Italian Stallion.
Stud
: Let's get high.

You win when you've eliminated all competition and have gained control over the town.

Now how about you PM me back with your role so I know you understand it and are up for the task.

P.S. Just in case you need a fake claim at any point; you may claim "Robert Rath" (from: Assassins
1995
). You are a
Jack Of All Trades
(One Roleblock, One Cop, One Doctor), and if challenegd for the abilities you may point out that those are the abilities of a JOAT from the Great Idea Mafia page and even claim you asked me the same and that this was my response.

"Sure. And after that, if you don't mind, I'd like to go to the hospital."


Creature was ...


Spoiler:
You are "Freddy Heflin" (from: Cop Land
1997
). As the Sheriff of a suburban New Jersey community, populated by New York City police officers, you slowly discover the town is a front for mob connections and corruption.

You are thus a
Watcher
and you need to try and find some crime perpetrators before the whole town is subverted and taken over by the mobs.

"I look at this town, and I don't like what I see."

Obviously
you are aligned with the Town
and have the standard win con of eliminating all evil to get your win. GOOD LUCK.

PM me back with your role so I know you understand it and are up for the task.
Bujaber, lying when everyone can verify it, isn’t helping your cause here.