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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:51 pm
by Joey_
In post 4173, RadiantCowbells wrote:You agreed with me there was something weird about him not townreading me no matter what else he did that was Towny and you know I have a consistent issue scumreading people who scumread me for bad reasons

You can be mad at me. Do you think it's scummy

Ok then
i agreed it was a bad read from him and he shouldve tred you, just like i disagreed with his pk/TSE read and i wanted him to lynch GL

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:53 pm
by Joey_
I will actually play for my win condition because I am done being petty

RC & Suji; fuck you both, its not polite to lynch someone who hasn't got the chance to even say a word, especially after a 165+ pages game over 2 months, thats not very courteous

That being said, nEE has been scumtelling tone wise and content wise every single post today, nothings makes sens from this slot. I just wish that it means they are scum and not just bad town

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:58 pm
by Joey_
I sincerely believes RC deserves to be lynched this game regardless of content, as in he has done nothing of value if you consider that his reads changes every 2 pages and he always ends up voting town. Lynching him for fucking up the game seems fair for me, i wouldn't be mad but i don't think theyre last scum

Suji, well. I think him hammering me here is very off and out of character, i am pretty sure he fosed nEE much more than he did fos me. I even questionned nEE in cirno hammer's twilight and he agreed. So if anything, that would be his most scummy move of the game so far. I think lynching cirno over them was excruciatingly bad and is again, thanks to RC who failed to notice how dead obvious town was cirno

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:13 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I'm trying and failing to take Suji scum seriously.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:18 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Both on account of Sujis play and account of Norways.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:29 pm
by Sujimichi
In post 4176, Joey_ wrote:RC & Suji; fuck you both, its not polite to lynch someone who hasn't got the chance to even say a word, especially after a 165+ pages game over 2 months, thats not very courteous
I apologize. It was an impatient and myopic thing to do, and you are justified in your frustration toward me.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:33 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I'm also sorry.

I think this was the game if there was ever a game we could have gotten along and lynched scum together and I blew it even if we still win.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:46 pm
by chennisden
Joey_ was town

(expired on 2019-11-24 20:46:35)...

Have fun?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:50 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I'm mulling over whether I place the vote right now or I do the case I was planning to and give Norway a chance to respond meaningfully to it.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:57 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I mean.

If Sujis actually scum.

I don't see how we get to both of us voting her anyway.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:19 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Tbh I'm more trying to avoid getting raged at in endgame if Suji is scum and quickhammers.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:46 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
That’s just RC’s profile it seems.
RC’s tactic used against Menalque in a nutshell, picking apart every ounce of the opponent’s post to talk about things that don’t really matter much, but is presented as a ubiqutous scumtell. He literally had thousands of tells on why Menalque was scum, but he wasn’t. I mean this isn’t exactly a humble man we’re talking about here, this is the kind of dude that openly brags about his reads being awesome, yet he apparently keeps mislynching. Good going boyo.
I’m really not a fan of his tactics.
Just look at the comparison.
Quotes like "makes me want to vomit in his scum face" and now on me: "Norwegian is a meme", "NB is cute" etc. Classic belittling strategy. It’s excellent at convincing others, it really is. So i have quite a bit of respect for the effectiveness of the game he is pulling here, i just don’t like it personally.

Anyway, ask me any questions and i will clarify them.

I mean i could go about what RC likes doing and spend the next 12 hours picking apart and explaining why every single sentence in his next 300 posts are scummy but i simply don’t have time for that shit. I just want to make this end this in a town victory so we can all go home for lunch.

/Rant over

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:26 am
by Sujimichi
Okay, you don't appreciate his tactics, he has an inflated opinion of his ability, and he was wrong. How does that make him mafia?

Leave RadiantCowbells out of your decision for a minute. Since you are now coming from the perspective now that Awoo/RC have to be mafia, and you were fairly strongly townreading Awoo before RC replaced him (I believe, since you discredited Joey_'s deepwolf case on Awoo), I would like for you to explain to me how you view that slot as scum.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:46 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I really only have 2 choices here. Either it's you or it's RC. RC seems hell of a lot more likely with his intention to vote me today.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:06 am
by Sujimichi
  1. I don't think that statement is true. I am very likely to vote you as well.
  2. From your point of view, why does RC seeming to vote you mean he is scum, and not that he is town who is reading you incorrectly?
  3. You didn't do what I asked.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:17 am
by RadiantCowbells
/shrug

Assuming that I'm still right and we lynch Norway and he flips scum

Given that one of the phases was 3 town I walk out of the game with a 50% scum lynch rate as opposed to a 0% in phases where scum didn't literally have to flip.

This game would be bad by my standards certainly but 50% scum lynches isn't terrible tbh.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:18 am
by RadiantCowbells
0% before I entered the game.

I'm more upset over the how than the actual events

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:20 am
by RadiantCowbells
You can't have it both ways really

If you want to argue that it's easier for me to lynch 50% scum in the late game then that's a point in my favor more than anything given my short lifespans tbh.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:34 am
by RadiantCowbells
I think GL intended to go down in 5 way after PK and have his scumflip plus his unending defense of the townblock be used as evidence by whoever the remaining scum is that the townblock contained scum and I think that's true regardless of who the scum is.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:45 am
by RadiantCowbells
I also really don't see how calling you cute or a meme is especially belittling but okay sorry I didn't mean to insult you.

I do have non-zerp doubt on Suji to the point that I wish we'd lynched them as the flex lynch over GIF even if I think that's GIFs fault but realistically I'm not going to end up voting them and I don't think I would even if Norway was gonna vote me 100% of the time.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:46 am
by RadiantCowbells
I just don't want to vote because that gives Norway the license to say lol he's confirmed scum fmpov as opposed to him being accountable for his play

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:49 am
by NorwegianboyEE
You don’t want to vote because you want Suji to vote first. That much is obvious.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:51 am
by RadiantCowbells
I don't see the relevance.

If Suji is already essentially locked into voting you whether I vote you first or not the end result is the thing.

The only difference is that she had asked you to explain why you think I'm scum over her and without the votes locked in you can't hide behind it being mechanically confirmed due to Suji not hammering.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:52 am
by RadiantCowbells
Not that 50% scum lynch rate isn't below average for me

But it's not some kind of woat performance

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:05 am
by Sujimichi
In post 4196, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You don’t want to vote because you want Suji to vote first. That much is obvious.
Are you going to answer my question? If you aren't going to, please let me know.