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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:57 pm

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Tbh I wish I had meta for Coral

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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:58 pm

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SKITTER IM A HUMAN WRECK
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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:58 pm

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I LOST TO A TWELVE YEAR OLD GIRL AT POKEMON
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:59 pm

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I ACTUALLY LOVED IT THOUGH
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:00 pm

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VOTE: coral
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:00 pm

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you probably made her day

you are an angel Isis.
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:00 pm

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Cool, let's get to that conversation!

Here's a sequence of quotes that frame the unvote contextually:
In post 2051, Meuh wrote:Ugh seems genuine
VOTE: Pavowski
I think this is better
This is the vote on Pavowski that I really liked. She's coming back to Pav after spending some time on GuiltyLion, and this vote comes as a response to some great posts of his.
In post 2055, Meuh wrote:To me he's scummy in a circumstantial way if that makes any sense?
The general position he's in, the way he has interacted with others and others have treated him, the feeling of some people being aware of him being scummy, while some seem to prefer ignoring his existence, I guess. It all makes me uneasy.

On an individual basis I also feel iffy about him.
I don't recall ever reading a Pav post and thinking "yeah, this was probably written by a townie"; which I've felt with I'd say most of the players in this game, even other people I do or have scumread. Like I would have to dig a bit for it, but I feel like I've had moments with people like GL, Gamma or you in that way. Not really with Pav.
She then explains this read further to Isis. The reasoning threw me a bit because of the emphasis on gamestate, which felt unusual for her, but by itself it's quite good.She has a post about the way she's using gamestates/positioning that alleviated my concerns, and I found it persuasive as I was in that game.

Great, the stage is set there. So why does she unvote?
In post 2219, Meuh wrote:What if it's just something like Pav/Fruit/Coral. :cool:
None of which have townpinged me much and the 3 of them voting in very different spots.
I think Fruit might just be scum from POE. While I'm having conflicting feelings about this game, generally I townread most players
Also fwiw I don't think the way the worst interacted with Ari before replacing out clears him but also that's touchy so I don't really wanna discuss it much

also vibessssssssssssssssssssss
It's important to understand before we get to the unvote that the thinking on Fruit was already telegraphed in advance. Cool, but what's the turning point then?

Oh boy, spoiler, it's our old friend Gamma on the verge of another meltdown because people won't vote with him.


This is the entire sequence in context:
In post 2300, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2299, Meuh wrote:He’s probably chilling in wolf chat
If this is serious, why no effort to deal with him? If not, fuck off, I’ve made it clear I’m not in a joking mood.
In post 2298, Gamma Emerald wrote:I just think it’s fucking stupid that whoever is town in this shithole of a game apart from me/Marci/beat/pav+you, Titus, and GL have basically opted to take a shortcut to solving the game vs. actually solving
Here’s a fun question for anyone pushing any combination of me/Marci/pav: what the fuck do you think TUF is doing here?
In post 2299, Meuh wrote:He’s probably chilling in wolf chat
Meuh is still on Pav here.
In post 2300, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2299, Meuh wrote:He’s probably chilling in wolf chat
If this is serious, why no effort to deal with him? If not, fuck off, I’ve made it clear I’m not in a joking mood.
In post 2303, marcistar wrote:tbh fruits weird yeah
In post 2304, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1292, The Ugly Fruit wrote:The issue is im currently dealing with putting the names of players to their profile picture, and just memorizing the names in the first place, I made a Doc to help with this, it's a process.

as of now the Self-Meta from skitter caught my eye, (and is why im voting her rn) and that meuh and marci should of taken up a full 5 pages worth of discussion on clothes alone ...thinking about it now marci has been feeling very, uh disconnected from all of what's been happening? like im reading through everyone's messages, but marci gives off very Filler Vibes
In post 1991, The Ugly Fruit wrote:VOTE: Marci One I need to place my vote on someone, two looking back at D1 I wasn't really feeling marci's plays
Latter post feels off looking at the former
In post 2305, Meuh wrote:@Gamma I do think Fruit is scum, it was like a half-jokey comment. Sorry. The issue is that I also don’t think my read on him is very compelling because it’s coming from a perspective of the game that most people don’t have. (I townread most players)
My read on Fruit is more of a gamestate read than a Fruit read and I don’t find his ISO particularly compelling

PEdit: VOTE: The Ugly Fruit
She swaps after a combination of getting castigated by Gamma for not voting Fruit and Gamma actually pulling up a substantive point against the slot.

The issue in this progression is that it's off of scum. There's no concerns about process here and the idea that she unvoted for no reason is trash and untrue.
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:01 pm

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VOTE: skitter30
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:01 pm

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Wait Isis swapped to Coral lmao

BACK ON CORAL

VOTE: Coral
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:01 pm

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I didnt let her win but she was on rapid strike urshifu and I was on Arceus without the dunsparce and that matchup is like 25-75 if you cut the dunsparce

I'm gonna uncut it next week just because of regis anyways
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:02 pm

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LET IT BE KNOWN THOUGH SISTER ISIS

I AM WILLING TO GO THE DISTANCE WITH YOU THIS GAME

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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:02 pm

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Faker r u scum
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:03 pm

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I'm gonna be ordering Wendy's and texting a girl* and then driving home I might be distracted enough to leave the coral vote out for a bit but I don't believe in it like a ton.

Want gl to look at it

There's some lil reasons but idk

Uncleared obvtown on the wagon paranoia
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:03 pm

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You can say that today but unless Meuh flips scum tonight I don't want to hear it AT ALL tomorrow lmfao
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:04 pm

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In post 4181, Faker wrote:She swaps after a combination of getting castigated by Gamma for not voting Fruit and Gamma actually pulling up a substantive point against the slot.

The issue in this progression is that it's off of scum. There's no concerns about process here and the idea that she unvoted for no reason is trash and untrue.
Gamma isn't voting fruit

Gamma's defense of Pavowski is pretty awful and I don't see why anyone would be convinced by that.

If Meuh was convinced by Gamma she should be able to explain how Gamma castigating the Pavo voters changed her mind.

She literally didn't even say when she vote-switched that she did it because she thinks Pavo is town for ____ reason.
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:04 pm

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I don't follow

Meuh is town
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:05 pm

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She actually keeps advocating for her perspective on Pav afterwards to Gamma on that page.

I did notice that Gamma wasn't voting Fruit there but was too lazy to fix it, looking at the quotes it's obvious he's frustrated that no one is voting or pushing the slot with him.
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:05 pm

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If meuh thinks its pav fruit coral
Why does she leave the 5 person pav wagon to either start or be the second vote on fruit

We know pav is scum
Ans fruit is town

This has not been adequately explained

Sure the progression tracks with her earlier stated reads
It still doesnt make sense as a thing to do at that point in the game
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:06 pm

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Isis i am very confused >.>
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:07 pm

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In post 2300, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2299, Meuh wrote:He’s probably chilling in wolf chat
If this is serious, why no effort to deal with him? If not, fuck off, I’ve made it clear I’m not in a joking mood.
I have a bit more I want to do after the unvote but skitter wanted this NOW so I gave it to her NOW, will modify as I keep working through
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:07 pm

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I agree that her vote on Pavowski is
very very good


it's actually the
THIRD TIME
she voted for Pavowski, she got zero traction the other two times.

This is the first time everyone in the game, Skitter, Me, Titus, Guiltylion hop on the train CHOO CHOO CHOO.

Cakes says he can vote there.

Pavo is literally inches from dying - so why would she change her mind on the wagon she actually wanted and
had good reason to want
when she's finally getting it?

If she has cold feet, then like who is giving her cold feet? She doesn't even
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Pavowski when she hops off - it's like oooh look over there a fruit!
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:07 pm

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the quote+ memory bug strikes again, F
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:07 pm

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Like i dont get why gamma's pov is important or relevant or how it explains why meuh switched
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:08 pm

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In post 4193, skitter30 wrote:Isis i am very confused >.>
Im a treasure that's why I named myself after a pirate
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