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In post 180, KingCrabd wrote:

In post 177, Mac wrote: there was something else that caught my eye on a brief skin of the 8 pages:

In post 131, KingCrabd wrote:Nulls:
Orc (not enough posts yet)
Everyone Else because it’s like page 6 and several people only have RVS posts.

Krab person (cabd?) - why did you feel the need to seperate orc for not having enough posts from everyone else who don't have enough posts? I found this kinda bizarre behaviour.

It's weird to see him NOT super hyperactive, after seeing his play in other games. I felt it needed more distinction, hence "not enough posts yet", because orci usually has walls up by now.

In post 4199, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:fery can you tell me what was going through your head when you saw 3412

In post 3412, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:

Had Nero not been lynched, day 1 would have been 179 pages long. But instead of analyzing his wagon for the people who FABRICATED a reason to read him scum, all most of you have done is whine about one person who read him town and said so.

I found a person who fabricated a scum read on Nero

You.


I read Fery's walls and did a hugeass ISO of bulba. I have no meta knowledge but I am still queasy about this for a few reasons.
Mac: yes, Mac was scummy, yes okay that is currently my largest reason to scumread bulbafenix
Forced hydra dissonance: Im comparing this with selkies and I'm not getting anything out of the ordinary
Meta: Seems to me like meta won't be of any help since im getting the vibe that bulba at least is very good at being scum

I think overall aside from the Mac analysis you are mostly seeing what you want to see. I mean you say stuff like "Stuff that may strike a townie as off may not draw any attention from a scum player because they know the post is coming from a town player.", but there's a very likely flip side to this argument which is "scum try to look for anything at all that may seem off because they need to find scum reads", and you fail to demonstrate why the former is more likely than just town that missed something

2695:
No bulba wasn't sheeping you, otherwise I wouldn't be in null and I don't think you were town reading BRO. This is off the top of my head but I feel like it's a weak point to base a scumread on. You said that a problem with the post was that it didnt have the sense of a new town player--I would disagree. I like serene and i being in null (I mean you even say that serene's predecessor is something really really town in that same post). I don't remember TIP being universally town.

I mean, it's like you attack them for not being controversial enough with their reads and then you attack them for pushing serene and for being tone-deaf

There's one thing in favor of bulba being scum though. I do not think that anybody would genuinely talk down to their partner in-thread like that. It stuck out to me when I first saw it and I thought it was interesting. I think it is scum theater. I do not think bulba has forced hydra dissonance. Their dissonance is fine. It's the way they interact in thread, with one head publicly suppressing the other that bugs me

Ill sleep on this and get back in the morning

In post 3866, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:

In post 3850, KingCrabd wrote:

In post 3846, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:His questioning+discussion driving seems a tad less coherent than xenoblade

Xenoblade was my first "real" game here. Do you really not expect me to have learned from it? Not to mention, the awkward way I've been stuck in a hydra with one head means I can't just post like mad from my phone like I did in xenoblade. I may replace out into cabd proper if he doesn't show soon. I had to play day two solo.

But define coherent. Because you worry me as much as I worry you, apparently. You've been spot on on calling alignments of both lynched players well in advance of their wagon picking up steam, and in the case of Nero, well before the rest of us realized it. And stevie too.

As ffery might say: "/paranoia"

this is stupid ms is so ridiculously slow right now

the first two sentences doesn't make sense to me. why would you 'learn' from your towngame to be less coherent?

i may be misremembering here but have you ever even mentioned your hydra buddy in all of day 2? it seems to me like you would want to talk to him about this game if you were town.

you don't worry about me or at least not from what i've seen so that seems a bit off

i laugh whenever people call me scum for opposing lynch wagons that end up being on town. i read nero correctly in last game, i've stated why i think bulbacase was water, and...what the hell is this about stevie?? i've been okay with lynching him...



oh yeah nightkills also implicate you but i'm not going to nkspec on day 3 i hate that shit

pedit: holy shit by the way this whole ban-MS business is fucking retarded

In post 4202, Rift Adrift wrote:I didn't take it very well. I felt like you were dismissing my concerns about them and not really considering my view. You posted this in a time frame where your lack of activity and promises to review stuff later had been making me nervous. And it was another read that you and I disagreed on, while Syr and I were in agreement. You were pushing people I had in my town pile and pushing back on Bulba.

In post 4193, Serene wrote:If its two scum teams and an SK, then there's the possibility koopa's N1 kill was roleblocked by another scum team or that he hit a BP / BP SK

which segues nicely to "nope I didn't shoot N1" if he knew his kill was stopped

-k

In post 4186, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:But yes vig is a billion times more likely than any other scenario

In post 591, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Can you explain your Nero case? What has changed since your early read?

Your reads list said:

In post 566, Selkies wrote:Nero Cain (he recovered a little from our early scum read, but has mostly faded into the woodwork lately)

What exactly did you mean by fading into the woodwork?


~C

In post 3291, KingCrabd wrote:{spice, ank, bulba, Hollywood, maonic, stevie} maybe?

Both the townreads in that list have a positive utility to their death. Maonic immediately 120% confotowns serene and proves the mason claim that some people seem to be doubting. Spice because metal sonic all over again.

In post 4208, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:

In post 3291, KingCrabd wrote:{spice, ank, bulba, Hollywood, maonic, stevie} maybe?

Both the townreads in that list have a positive utility to their death. Maonic immediately 120% confotowns serene and proves the mason claim that some people seem to be doubting. Spice because metal sonic all over again.

hmm.

In post 2318, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:

In post 2259, Serene wrote:TiP was vig'ed

not necessarily

you dropped a really retarded crumb to tip mason that i picked up on, maybe scum team did too

In post 2639, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Dram needs to be vigged

In post 419, KingCrabd wrote:

In post 418, Rift Adrift wrote:

In post 412, KingCrabd wrote:

In post 393, ProHawk wrote:

In post 389, KingCrabd wrote:
I was wondering how long it would take you to revert back to your classic day one play, hawk. I'd usually say you're town for it, but the delayed timing makes it seem forced, kind of like you're trying to invoke your townmeta. Furthermore, do you intend to tell me that my vote served no use? It made it apparent we had a player actively lurking, that is, watching the thread but not posting.

dramonic seems to be set on saying absolutely nothing of value.

You seem a bit more annoyed than normal and, this is quite unlike your town-meta response... soo?

But... going back and reading your post in question it appears you had Dramonic in your scum-pile you had just put a ton of empty lines in between so I missed it and what I was seeing as scummy was a mistake on my part.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BROsideon

A certain head in this hydra is annoyed by just about anything, could explain meta variance.

Other head needs to get back from dinner so we can convene on a view on this interesting conversation about Doc here

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How's this coming along?

I got back from dinner, but he was asleep/offline. We're in different time zones, etc. Also he's not able to stay up very late. We'll geetcha an answer once I get to sit down with him. Which will be tomorrow. You know how that is, what with time zones sucking.

In post 4214, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:shadi took EIGHT MINUTES to post his readlist in that stupid gambit on 143

how the fuck does that conftown him

cabd is not this retarded

In post 4217, Rift Adrift wrote:

In post 4214, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:shadi took EIGHT MINUTES to post his readlist in that stupid gambit on 143

how the fuck does that conftown him

cabd is not this retarded

If I were writing up what I thought was my last reads list, I'd be torn between making sure the list gets into the thread and wanting to be thorough. Eight minutes doesn't strike me as over-long.

In post 4007, KingCrabd wrote:Rift, I wanted to go over potential vig shortlist and etc, but reading up and it seems sorting out this mess is priority number one now.

In post 4212, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Whoever killed TIP was I think a high calibre player because they picked up on 1082

So yeah

In post 4214, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:shadi took EIGHT MINUTES to post his readlist in that stupid gambit on 143

how the fuck does that conftown him

cabd is not this retarded

In post 1284, Rift Adrift wrote:

In post 1283, Calcifer wrote:

In post 1277, Rift Adrift wrote:that's not mastin.

Could you reassure me that orc is town? It worries me that the towniest thing he's done so far is a shitty deathtunnel.

I have a mixed read on orcinus. There are a couple of reasons going back to one of our earliest games that result in the mix leaning a little town.