Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[Randomnamechange]

here we see a townie taking full time to consider their votes in what is potentially LyLo

[Wisdom]

VOTE: shoshin

[Shoshin]

Nancy, stop telling me what I do as town.

I’m telling you that threatening not to play any more games with me is a cringeworthy bad argument to affect my vote. If you were paying any attention this game, you’d know that this kind of manipulation doesn’t work on me. Anything other than logic/cold hard facts will likely have the reverse effect on me that you’d like but feel free to ignore this.

I'm not trying to manipulate you, so stop assuming that everything I do is manipulative. I'm expressing how I actually feel about you and the way you're playing this game. You seem to have trouble accepting any sort of criticism and can't even admit when you were wrong about something. Like you're not even apologetic about lynching Sajj... and that infuriates me because I put so much work into saving her, I fought tooth and nail explaining exactly why she was town, and you just ignored all the work I did and nonchalantly lynched her without even trying to understand what I was saying, and then didn't even seem apologetic at all and now you're going after me.

You want to talk about the logic/cold hard facts? That's what I'm trying to use to show you that I'm town. I know that insulting you and getting upset with you isn't going to change your mind, so that's not what I'd do if I were scum. What I'd do as scum is tell you how awesome you are at this game, and buddy the shit out of you.

Let's talk aboutu the logic/cold hard facts and you can tell me where you disagree.

1. I claimed bodyguard on D2. I locked myself into that claim.

2. I used my role on N2 on Nico. This is proven by Reality's result.

3. Scum killed Nico on N2.

4. In general, if scum have a doctor, they don't protect the person they're nightkilling. It's a very unlikely gambit for scum to protect their nightkill. It's even more unlikely for scum to protect their nightkill onto a cop. I'd speculate that 9/10 scum don't protect their nightkill, and 99/100 scum don't protect their nightkill onto a cop.

5. I fought tooth and nail to save Sajj when nobody else thought she was town. I was the ONLY player who defended her, and I did so actively and aggressively in a way that scum wouldn't ever do.

6. Scum didn't kill Sajj or you on N4. The only plausible explanation for this is that scum wanted to let Sajj kill me and they didn't want to target you because they knew killing you might end up with me dying instead because that's how bodyguard works.

7. Scum killed Wheme, the one player who actually voiced a townread on me. If I'm scum, why would I kill Wheme over Random, Wisdom, the worst, or you?

These are the cold facts. They strongly suggest that I'm town. If you actually care about winning this game, please address them. Otherwise, I'll just assume you never had any intent to engage with me.

[Shoshin]

VOTE: shoshin

So you're scum with Random? Figures.

[Wisdom]

you should have pushed tw
maybe youd have a tiny chance

[Shoshin]

You think the worst is scum?

[Shoshin]

I don't understand why you're so sure Random is town...

[Shoshin]

You're taking his and Chick's word that they were in a neighborhood together, and you're assuming they can't be scum neighbors. Those are both baseless assumptions.

[Wisdom]

no, its a fact they were neighbors, no matter how much you keep ignoring my answer on the matter, and scum neighbors is incredibly rare and unlikely in this case

[Shoshin]

no, its a fact they were neighbors, no matter how much you keep ignoring my answer on the matter, and scum neighbors is incredibly rare and unlikely in this case

You haven't actually explained why they're neighbors... like, not at all... if you look at Chick's flip, the mod hid the link to the neighborhood... why'd he do that? Our mod is a very lazy mod... he forgot to send Sajj the message from Nancy on N1... he doesn't do things without a reason... and yet he chose to hide the link in Chick's flip.... why?

What's rarer, scum doctor protecting the nightkill onto a cop, or scum neighbors?

[Wisdom]

lmao
Where have you seen flips having actual links to neighborhoods?

[Wisdom]

Also it would be bastard to alter chick's role pm
If it says she had a hood with random, she had a hood with random
RC can't change it to fit a fakeclaim

[Shoshin]

lmao
Where have you seen flips having actual links to neighborhoods?

It seems like Wheme's flip had a link to a hood...

[Shoshin]

Chickadee has been lynched! She was

Junk Lady, Mafia Identity Cop Neighbour

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Everything in the world you've ever cared about is all right here.

Welcome! You are the

Junk Lady, Mafia Identity Cop Neighbour

.

Junk Lady (Identity Cop): Each night you may peruse someone's garbage and determine their character in flavour.
Neighbour (Neighbour): You are in a neighbourhood that can be found here.

You win when the Goblins have sent all of the Town to the oubliette or nothing can prevent this from happening.


Your fakeclaim is as follows.

What? Okay? Alright.

Welcome! You are the

Hat, Town 1-Shot Identity Cop Neighbour

.

Hat (Identity Cop): Once during the game you may visit a person each night and discover their identity in flavour.
Neighbour (Neighbour): You are in a neighbourhood that can be found here.

You win when the Goblins have been sent to the oubliette.

Night 4 has begun and will end whenever I wake up wednesday morning, 7:00 AM EDT at the earliest.

Chick's role PM makes no mention of the supposed "Neighborhood 251" nor any mention of Random. It just says she is in a neighborhood, with no mention of who is in that neighborhood.

[Wisdom]

anyway im done here
everytime i tell myself not to talk to scum and everytime i dont listen to myself

[Shoshin]

Reality Check has died! They were

Right Door Knocker, Town Even-Night Voyeur Neighbour

Spoiler: Role PM

Immfmmfmmf!

Welcome! You are the

Right Door Knocker, Town Even-Night Voyeur Neighbour

.

One of Two (Even-Night): You are only one of the knockers and may only act on even nights.
Knocker (Voyeur): Each night you may target a player and determine what abilities, if any, targeted them.
Neighbour (Neighbour): You belong to a neighbourhood which can be found here.

You win when the Goblins have been sent to the oubliette.

Day 5 has begun!

Similarly, Reality's role PM makes no mention of Wheme nor any mention of who is in her hood. Like Chick's PM, it simply provides a link to the hood.

[Wisdom]

which goes to a youtube video
like chick's goes to a funny picture
In wheme's case rc obviously didnt have time to replace it and left it as is

[Shoshin]

My point is that the role PM makes no mention of who is in the hood.

[Shoshin]

I'm saying there's different possibilities as to how Random could be partnerd with Chick - either as scum neighbors, or as a secret member of Reality & Wheme's neighborhood.

[Wisdom]

and?
Hoods say who is in the hood on post one
Reality and wheme would know if chick was there
Plus, again, doesnt make sense to have scum in a themed hood with a shared role
And it also.doesnt make sense for random or his predecessor or whoever to out of nowhere claim hes in a hood with chick without it being true

[Shoshin]

Hoods don't automatically say who is in there. Not in my experience.

[Wisdom]

no there arent different possibilities, there is one, scum neighbors
Which is unlikely as it is but even more so given how the two slots have interacted with each other

[Randomnamechange]

so we are supposed to take shoshin's claims etc at face value but it's fine to come up with bizarre hypotheses as to why other people can be scum

[Wisdom]

ok. For real done now. Please be game over when i wake up

[Shoshin]

Wisdom, you know better than to assume that hoods say who is in the hood.