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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:45 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
"Prove yourself right" even asserts that I believed it, so I'm failing to see what exactly you're criticizing me for outside of being wrong and leading a lynch.
I think RC's comment telling Bitmap to trust others and not think for himself is arguably out of line, but that his push on LE was all in-game and I didn't see anything even borderline. She joined the newbie queue fwiw
I don't. Why can't you give someone the advice that someone else is better at the game than they are? Should I just pretend everyone is equal at the game?
If I'm playing with a player who is consistently wrong on their reads, I don't see what the resolution to that situation is besides not playing to my wincon or trying to encourage them to follow others' reads.

If I was out of line this game it was in my interactions with Sailor Senshi. But there as is usually the case there was provocation.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:48 pm
by popsofctown
In post 4200, Tana and Ephraim wrote:"Prove yourself right" even asserts that I believed it, so I'm failing to see what exactly you're criticizing me for outside of being wrong and leading a lynch.
I think RC's comment telling Bitmap to trust others and not think for himself is arguably out of line, but that his push on LE was all in-game and I didn't see anything even borderline. She joined the newbie queue fwiw
I don't. Why can't you give someone the advice that someone else is better at the game than they are? Should I just pretend everyone is equal at the game?
If I'm playing with a player who is consistently wrong on their reads, I don't see what the resolution to that situation is besides not playing to my wincon or trying to encourage them to follow others' reads.

If I was out of line this game it was in my interactions with Sailor Senshi. But there as is usually the case there was provocation.
Until mafia is a large enough game that people have the option between playing it casually and playing in "elo rated play", you should pretend everyone is equally good at the game, because there is literally not an available venue for playing in a skill agnostic venue. Yes. That's an unfortunate circumstance

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:51 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
I think that's a really silly assertion on par with Shadoweh attacking my track record with newbies but I would prefer we lynch scum instead of dissect my mafia play.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:52 pm
by Sailor Senshi
Pops right now if I'm not logged in its your scumday, but if I *don't* when I log in. Which means right now your scumday is in a state of quantum flux. Time is relative man. We are all just stones floating through the water in this stream we call time man

-Merc

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:57 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
My read as of right now is that RcE was town by the way, and that it's exactly HH/CS/DDL in that order of certainty.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:02 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 4201, popsofctown wrote:Until mafia is a large enough game that people have the option between playing it casually and playing in "elo rated play", you should pretend everyone is equally good at the game, because there is literally not an available venue for playing in a skill agnostic venue. Yes. That's an unfortunate circumstance
Not like closed large themes could be ranked anyway since the setups don't even have a nominally complete structure

-merc

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:04 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
I'm gonna try listening to some Polar Express to see if it ups my no longer good mood before I go to bed. Nitey nite etc.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:05 pm
by Titus
Just call me when I can play mafia again. K?

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:06 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 4047, gameplay506 wrote:Idk about your plan
Like do we not trust pops that much?
I mean we are just confirming she is a redirector
And we are using the mana gauge to do just that when instead me/titus can do something better while croag protects us
I agree with gameplay, following pops plan is a waste of resources

SS Venus

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:10 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 4065, Dannflor wrote:
In post 4062, Sailor Senshi wrote:
In post 4060, Dannflor wrote:
In post 4057, Sailor Senshi wrote:
In post 4052, Dannflor wrote:SS do you want my flavor ?
I think I might have already guessed it. Does it involve cats?
not really
Okay, then i guessed wrong. Sure, tell us then.
Star Butterfly
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I Approve of your choice and dislike myself for not thinking it first.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:15 pm
by Katsuki
In post 4101, RadiantCowbells wrote:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Ah, as articulate as always. :]

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:32 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
Also I generally trend towards assuming that attacks like the one that Shadoweh just made against me are sincere even when coming from scum but I can't get over the timing of this one.

It didn't happen at the start of the day and didn't happen when I originally submitted against them. It happened now.

This'll be a little roundabout but I went through wanting to quit mafia, declaring that I hated mafia and this game and didn't care about the result after LE flipped town. Shadoweh asserted I didn't seem to care about the mislynch. How do you ever draw that conclusion in a game where my struggling with having lead a mislynch is more on display than ever? Why go on about my 'treatment' of that slot which was objectively fine when I think I actually had a call-outable moment in this game?

Or from another perspective, she's scum and she saw that I was barely holding onto having any sort of investment in this game and struggling and decided to hit me hard when I started to recuperate, focusing on me having led that mislynch (which again I was obviously already unhappy with) and hitting that button to make sure that I stay down.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:39 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
I say that knowing that it's going to discredit my case bc people always townread people for saying negative stuff to me and drawing attention to that isn't pro people sheeping my read but I'm gonna say it anyway!

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:12 pm
by Titus
Can we just lynch and go to night? We're nearly massclaimed.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:20 am
by gameplay506
Yea

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:27 am
by gameplay506
So who is it for today
I can't be sold on CS lynch today with the info that we have rn. The flips today and tonight might make me reconsider that but still no for today.
Pops is kinda in the same category.
Not very sure on DDL. He might, might no be scum, I need to reread him. Tho his gladiator claim is uhhh idk? Not scummy?
I still have no idea about RCE soo

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:30 am
by gameplay506
Actually just because of VCA analysis from yesterday I can do DDL

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:39 am
by Sailor Senshi
In post 4211, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Also I generally trend towards assuming that attacks like the one that Shadoweh just made against me are sincere even when coming from scum but I can't get over the timing of this one.

It didn't happen at the start of the day and didn't happen when I originally submitted against them. It happened now.

This'll be a little roundabout but I went through wanting to quit mafia, declaring that I hated mafia and this game and didn't care about the result after LE flipped town. Shadoweh asserted I didn't seem to care about the mislynch. How do you ever draw that conclusion in a game where my struggling with having lead a mislynch is more on display than ever? Why go on about my 'treatment' of that slot which was objectively fine when I think I actually had a call-outable moment in this game?

Or from another perspective, she's scum and she saw that I was barely holding onto having any sort of investment in this game and struggling and decided to hit me hard when I started to recuperate, focusing on me having led that mislynch (which again I was obviously already unhappy with) and hitting that button to make sure that I stay down.
Yup her post was godawful and scummy as hell, like excuse me but what are you supposed to do not lynch a scumread because they happen to be a new player? If anything being new and town and getting lynch should not be an awful experience but a learning one, see what you did and what people said and why they scumread you. Learn from that and dont repeat it.

HH post was awful and I would vote them for it if they werent going to die already. Like fore real no town motivation from that post whatsover.

SS Venus

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:40 am
by gameplay506
In post 4217, Sailor Senshi wrote:HH post was awful and I would vote them for it if they werent going to die already. Like fore real no town motivation from that post whatsover.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:44 am
by gameplay506
The only reason I don't want to lynch HH but instead let T&E kill her is that if she flips scum T&E are most likely killing CS, which I don't think is flipping scum.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:26 am
by Cafe Stile
In post 4219, gameplay506 wrote:The only reason I don't want to lynch HH but instead let T&E kill her is that if she flips scum T&E are most likely killing CS, which I don't think is flipping scum.
We might get shot regardless actually

- hideri

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:31 am
by GuyInFreezer
VC here

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:34 am
by Sailor Senshi
In post 4149, Titus wrote:Well, I don't think that's the right call.
You’re basing that on Dann being scum though and I don’t think he is.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:39 am
by Sailor Senshi
In post 4154, popsofctown wrote:
I'll vote RCE once I have a final yes or no from Sailor Moon about the night thing
In post 4161, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I've brought RC back to sanity, he's gonna be more useful tomorrow, would be nice if a lynch didnt happen yet.
-Tana
UNVOTE:

The longer you are in this game, the better.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:40 am
by Sailor Senshi
@Pops, I’m okay with it but the other heads need to agree.