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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:20 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 4095, Almost50 wrote:ut someone who doesn't read AT ALL, and wants to be spoon fed everything like they are the center of the universe is unacceptable.
i never act as the center of the universe.

im just a bright star

with that said i still think norwegianboyee is scum

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:20 pm
by April Ludgate
I think Norwegian got confirmed not Gamma’s alignment, if I read it correctly, but yeah.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:22 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 3845, mastina wrote:Part of our 3p information is we explicitly know that the Army is the one and only scum faction in this game, numbering exactly five.
i missed this i guess

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:23 pm
by DrDolittle
i'm inclined to believe when gamma says theres 5 people in his donatello turtles army

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:23 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 4199, April Ludgate wrote:What do you think about my comments on Morning Mage pushing Titus-Menal-Mastina, and Titus pushing Morning Mage like the sheer thought of that is ridiculous, when Mastina and Titus were a legit pairing?
Link?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:24 pm
by DiamondSentinel
@Titus


As promised, here's my analysis on Chemist, Pickaxe, and S_S. I was going to do a full ISO for them but then I got bored midway through Chemist's.

Chemist - Christoph was awful and scummy, so there's that. Chemist's start was weak, but got a bit better as time went on. However, I do not like how flippant they are now.
Pickaxe - Jumped on Gamma early. Points for them. Unfortunately not much else for them. Not a lot of content and a lot of piggybacking.
S_S - Echo.... Echo echo echo. Everything about Echo was awful. They were my number 2 scumread yesterday. S_S has not remedied that at all. Constantly trying to so confusion/doubt about stuff, low effort quips back at people, etc. etc.

As for them as a scum team.... I'm not sure. There's a lot of distancing there interspersed with some seemingly random votes. It looks like low effort bussing to try and remove association. But I generally try to avoid picking relationships between living players because those are very difficult and can also shift behavior.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:25 pm
by April Ludgate
The holdup I have with Mastina/Titus is I feel they’re just trying to powerball me because I’m the one that’ll stand up against them.

It’s essentially the same thing as claiming a fake guilty on someone.

I even stated Day 1 Mastina was gonna do this.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:25 pm
by DrDolittle
are all the third parties able to talk to each other? That's why she called it "our"?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:26 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 4206, April Ludgate wrote:The holdup I have with Mastina/Titus is I feel they’re just trying to powerball me because I’m the one that’ll stand up against them.

It’s essentially the same thing as claiming a fake guilty on someone.

I even stated Day 1 Mastina was gonna do this.
i mean why don't you just wait a little and see if she produces the 95 caliber smoking gun

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:26 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 4189, April Ludgate wrote:Titus tried questioning why I would ever target her, but I spent the entire twilight defending MM against pushing Titus-Mastina-Menalque, something that Mage was completely in the right to push considering THEY ARE ACTUALLY A PAIR, so Titus pushed Mornning Mage as “flailing” when he was pushing an accurate hidden pairing.

I even stated I saw it as well.

Titus also said that I should target Super Bowl, and I responded that’s who I planned on checking, so I decided to check Titus because I didn’t like the way they were interacting in regards to MM.

That wasn’t even a risky move, which everyone here knows I would make a risky move and change targets as town.

So that’s yet another one of Titus’ giant posts that don’t make sense.
I wrote it out here, but the last pages of Twilight Day 1 is where it’s at

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:26 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 4208, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 4206, April Ludgate wrote:The holdup I have with Mastina/Titus is I feel they’re just trying to powerball me because I’m the one that’ll stand up against them.

It’s essentially the same thing as claiming a fake guilty on someone.

I even stated Day 1 Mastina was gonna do this.
i mean why don't you just wait a little and see if she produces the 95 caliber smoking gun
It doesn’t matter what she says, I’m still town.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:29 pm
by DiamondSentinel
Because I'm such a nice guy, I'll even give some more reads for free.

MathBlade - I'm not entirely sold on them not being scum. Vecna was not the best player, and while I recognize that this is just how MathBlade plays, I still don't care much for it. It's like how me being VI is not AI. I suspect this playstyle isn't either.
April - Floundering, flailing, call it what you want, today's reaction to this wagon is
awful
. Eww eww eww. Still, might just be bad town. You guys have speculation as to who they're an alt for, right? Who is that?
DDL - Yikes. This is a nasty slot. Honestly, I find April+DDL to be a stronger scum team than the above 3. No fun to be had here.
MM - Ima be real. I think this is another VI slot without the self-awareness of being a VI slot. I don't think this behavior is scummy, but at the same time, they shouldn't touch any X or Lose situation.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:29 pm
by April Ludgate
Anyone watch Falling Skies?

Mastina and co are the Volm for this game. They don’t care about the human town life.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:31 pm
by April Ludgate
Nah, Diamond’s just a surface level player.

I have multiple game solves over the past 7 years on site.

I really don’t give a single fuck what people think about flailing because this is town flailing, which you have already labeled as “bad town”, which proves that I am able to show people that I am town.

You just don’t have the complex thinking abilities to see that, though, it seems

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:32 pm
by DiamondSentinel
In post 4213, April Ludgate wrote:Nah, Diamond’s just a surface level player.

I have multiple game solves over the past 7 years on site.

I really don’t give a single fuck what people think about flailing because this is town flailing, which you have already labeled as “bad town”, which proves that I am able to show people that I am town.

You just don’t have the complex thinking abilities to see that, though, it seems
I mean, that's not you doing anything. That's just my personal belief that "pushing someone you want executed is bad sport" because it more often than not gets people who are just bad at taking pressure.

I still think that you're scum because of everything else
around
your slot. Not just your reaction being awful.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:32 pm
by April Ludgate
And you wanna fucking talk about awful?

This fucking game, you included, is acting like a wagon from claimed 3rd party is bad?

Hell fucking yeah, if they’re supposed to fucking help the town, and win with us, why are they ignoring basic logic like Morning Mage legit finding a Titus-Mastina pairing because they are, or me legit Detecting Motion on Titus because she did have motion.

These aren’t fucking townies, get over your surface level self, Diamond.

Be better

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:32 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 4211, DiamondSentinel wrote:I think this is another VI slot without the self-awareness of being a VI slot. I don't think this behavior is scummy, but at the same time, they shouldn't touch any X or Lose situation.
dang thats my thoughts word for word on you tbh

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:33 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 4214, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 4213, April Ludgate wrote:Nah, Diamond’s just a surface level player.

I have multiple game solves over the past 7 years on site.

I really don’t give a single fuck what people think about flailing because this is town flailing, which you have already labeled as “bad town”, which proves that I am able to show people that I am town.

You just don’t have the complex thinking abilities to see that, though, it seems
I mean, that's not you doing anything. That's just my personal belief that "pushing someone you want executed is bad sport" because it more often than not gets people who are just bad at taking pressure.

I still think that you're scum because of everything else
around
your slot. Not just your reaction being awful.
Then you’re just a surface level thinking. Nothing else to it. Vote with the fake guilty

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:34 pm
by April Ludgate
I couldn’t decide between calling them a surface level thinker and saying they’re surface level thinking, so i mixed the 2

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:35 pm
by DiamondSentinel
In post 4216, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 4211, DiamondSentinel wrote:I think this is another VI slot without the self-awareness of being a VI slot. I don't think this behavior is scummy, but at the same time, they shouldn't touch any X or Lose situation.
dang thats my thoughts word for word on you tbh
Note the "without the self-awareness of being a VI slot."

I know that I'm always a VI. I just make do with what I can.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:36 pm
by April Ludgate
I am the greatest VI of all time.

I still have people believe I’m village idiot even with my scum record and town track record of game solving.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:36 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 4205, DiamondSentinel wrote:Constantly trying to so confusion/doubt about stuff
Confusion - where? I've tried to be clear.
Doubt - yes. If there isn't a good reason to believe something then it deserves to be doubted. Is there a problem with that?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:36 pm
by DiamondSentinel
In post 4215, April Ludgate wrote:And you wanna fucking talk about awful?

This fucking game, you included, is acting like a wagon from claimed 3rd party is bad?

Hell fucking yeah, if they’re supposed to fucking help the town, and win with us, why are they ignoring basic logic like Morning Mage legit finding a Titus-Mastina pairing because they are, or me legit Detecting Motion on Titus because she did have motion.

These aren’t fucking townies, get over your surface level self, Diamond.

Be better
I mean, since they refused to quote their wincon verbatim I'm no longer playing by their rules. We'll see how it goes, but the fact remains that even
before
I declared that I was going to sheep Titus for a bit, I scumread your slot.

Stay salty brah

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:37 pm
by April Ludgate
Not on me,
I’ve been truthful about everything in this game.

Just because you can’t comprehend it, doesn’t mean it’s been bad.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:37 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 3891, mastina wrote:April's displayed TMI in the same way Gamma did, faked a no-risk high-reward investigation on Titus, claims a role I have setup reasons to believe isn't in the game while thinking it is a role that would fit in the game, and uses a strategy which I am pretty sure he used before, of trying to claim a motion detector role in a game with a town (dis)loyal role.
hmm flavor leaf is right this does does not check out