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@Alisae - who's your favorite League character? Not necessarily your best or main, but like...the one you like character wise the best, and in turn, might actually be a main, mine's up there with one of my best.

In post 4200, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Alisae - who's your favorite League character? Not necessarily your best or main, but like...the one you like character wise the best, and in turn, might actually be a main, mine's up there with one of my best.

favorite league character?
Probably Rakan or Zoe

Hmm.

Mine's Xayah and Twisted Fate.

I like those two for you.

Blitz Crank.

Like the design, like the idea of robot janitors with hearts of goldplated steel.

In post 4198, Bell wrote:I looked through the mininormal list btw.
The closest I found was Mason, mason, town back up mason.

[It's almost like that's how mason works. is the joke flying over my head? dammit]

[in any case, I thought that you thought Dr Easy was scum, so why is this important exactly?]

[and yeah I've read the past few pages.... Bell, how do you even write this stuff as town. Are you still flustered? I would have thought that would have gone away by now.]

[I have never seen town fake-react to a fake hammer, just seen scum fake-react a small handful of times. So is this a first for me, orrr]

~Morning

In post 4206, Solstice wrote:[I have never seen town fake-react to a fake hammer, just seen scum fake-react a small handful of times. So is this a first for me, orrr]

why should town be fake-reacting to a fake hammer in the first place?

In post 4150, Polar Bear Express wrote:

In post 4132, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4129, Polar Bear Express wrote:Can you link some Bell scumgames for me?

i played with bell in antechamber and epilogue and both times he was very uncomfortable and low effort as scum.

So you think this is scum indicative for him? Yeah, I think that kind of fits with what we’re seeing here.

[That doesn't fit with what we're seeing here, what??]

[Eh. Awkward yeah, low effort no. He's going through the motions of bringing up how BM/NK15 interactions are really important to his solve and has also vowed to high effort for the next 6 days. I don't really know what the point for him to do that as scum is since he's very clearly dead here.]

[although he hasn't delivered on much of the solve -- that's why I keep harping on him for reads. At first I was more understanding cause I hate giving reads on players I haven't evaluated.]

[...but i can do it. very easily as town. Cause i know i can change em later and it's whatever. I take way more time as scum cause my thought process just isn't as deeply ingrained into my mind, im too busy worrying about other stuff, i care about how it comes off etc etc etc. Bell repeatedly refusing to give us his toilet paper reads becomes less and less believable every time he says it]

Double the Trouble wrote:

In post 4206, Solstice wrote:[I have never seen town fake-react to a fake hammer, just seen scum fake-react a small handful of times. So is this a first for me, orrr]

why should town be fake-reacting to a fake hammer in the first place?

[I have no clue. Technically you could justify it because it in theory gives you greater chances of living if it's bought, and living is good for townies too. In practice, that's a terrible idea because you're lying and generally people are trying to find liars, so when you do a fake reaction to a hammer, it tends to make you look worse.]

[Bell then shortly after clarifying he wouldn't fake react to a hammer he knows is fake, despite that being what he literally just did, is just.. alright then...]

[I can technically see a townie justifying a desperate play like that in their mind, sure. Subsequently admitting they would never do that like they're going through some kind of cognitive dissonance.... okay. there's a certain point where town!Bell can't really blame us.]

[Idk. Overall this is a lot different from what I expected from scum!Bell. But that can maybe be explained by him trying something new, something flaily and all over the place with a bunch of emotions. something that is sure to get me at least]

[I am pretty much basing my read (at this point) off of Bell's behaviour knowing he's going to die -- since there is no scum motivation to solve when he knows it doesn't save his life -- and what does he do? he doesn't even give readsssss. Oh Bell... why must you do this?]

~Morning

In post 4208, Solstice wrote:[I have no clue. Technically you could justify it because it in theory gives you greater chances of living if it's bought, and living is good for townies too. In practice, that's a terrible idea because you're lying and generally people are trying to find liars, so when you do a fake reaction to a hammer, it tends to make you look worse.]

you summed this up beautifully

In post 4199, Bell wrote:Found a few.
Here's one.

Mini Normal 2045
Moderator: ChibiBear
Current Update: Town Win

Player List:

Doughboy, Vanilla Townie, survived and won
LolWagons replaced TexdoesHalo
Springtrap,

Town Watcher,

survived and won
Ruby Red replaced PenguinPower, Mafia Goon, lynched day 2
Egix96, Vanilla Townie, survived and won
profii, Vanilla Townie, killd night 2
Sad Sheep, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1
Malakitty, Vanilla Townie, survived and won
BrightEyedFish, Mafia Goon, lynched day 1
Trivium, Mafia Goon, lynched day 3
DrDolittle, Town 2-shot Vigilante, killd night 1
Elbirn,

Town Watcher

, survived and won
ceejayvinoya, Vanilla Townie, survived and won

Another had 2 jail keepers of all things. There are probably more.

also this game moderator is a psychopath holy shit 2 WATCHERS
are you insane?

I DON'T EVEN LIKE PUTTING A WATCHER IN MY GAME NETHERTHELESS 2
WHAT

Setup by RadiantCowbells

WELL THAT EXPLAINS THAT ONE

And the other instance you were saying about Jailkeepers was modded by drealmerz and he has a reputation for weird shit like that.

but yeah RC is quite good at his job.
He would probably try that and get away with it.

drealmerz is something else and titus modding is not drealmerz modding lets not confuse the 2

you know what
im going to sleep on this again
UNVOTE:

In post 4147, Bell wrote: Do you think I'm just randomly quoting walls of brief mentions of NK15 in this huge game. I

Why are you doing that anyway?
I think it’s safe to say, that unless you have something major to conclude from NK15 interactions, absolutely nobody cares.

- Norwee

[TOILET PAPER READS]

- Norwee

no wonder norwee gets scumread in every game

In post 4164, Polar Bear Express wrote:This is your idea of “shade”, seriously? No you’re wrong, I actually feel really bad for him, he just sounds so sad but he really isn’t giving me any reason to change my mind. Yes it’s Gloria.

He is obviously working towards reads

I think it would be really dumb to elim Bell today and I stand by that even if I find out later in the game that he is scum.

I made a case for elimming scum that no one seems to care about.
I think we should let Bell/DEB resolve through night actions, at least for now.
I really hate how people are jumping on Creature, it just feels icky to me.

I'd much rather see a Mastina or Dunn elimed today (if people refuse to see reason wrt Noraa), but can we please talk about something outside Bell for at least a day or two?

In post 4220, MURDERCAT wrote:I'd much rather see a Mastina or Dunn elimed today (if people refuse to see reason wrt Noraa), but can we please talk about something outside Bell for at least a day or two?

I'd be fine with an elimination on Dunnstral or Noraa. Don't really feel like doing Mastina though.

- Norwee

Also Spiffeh, they r scummy too.

- Norwee

We can wait on mastina but that's my sleeper scum pick and Toog pointing out the weird behavior there but not explicitly buddying me at all makes me feel better about Toog (also their entrance was just like, town).

I guess Pooky has a point about Bell being outside of their scum range, now i don't really townread Bell for it. But i do agree with Murdercat that it could be wise to wait a day or two. Either the Detective claims die or we can resolve them later.

VOTE: Polar Bear Express

- Norwee