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Oops. I was trying to find connections between Bujaber and Varsoon, and guess I quoted that.

Flavor Leaf has not actually retracted right? -D

In post 4226, DrewVa wrote:Flavor Leaf has not actually retracted right? -D

Nope, and I would have by now if I was just reaction testing.

Bujaber's scum.

I literally came into this day phase and backtracked my whole entire claim prior to this day phase. He's Mafia.

Yeah I'm murdering BuJaber here everytime.

Clemency (14): Fortian (830), pinturicchio (1599), RCEnigma (1601), Wisdom (1650), davesaz (1658), BrightEyedFish (1731), Alchemist21 (1750), Tails (1913), BuJaber (2022), Alonzo (2242), profii (2288), DrewVa (2381), hebichan (2406), Clemency (2407),

7 of this wagon is alive. Clemency self hammered and is the only mafia flipped on this wagon.

Fortian, Wisdom, Daves, Tails, Bujaber, Profii, DrewVa.

Scum is in here. Scum is Bujaber, and then probably Fortian, but Fortian siding with me doesn't benefit UnderdogFortian, however, so maybe it's not Fortian.

In post 4163, Flavor Leaf wrote:And @Bujaber - my role is tied to Alonzo...i got all his results. I don’t have the same role as him.

In post 4159, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Profii - After Alonzo died, I got a 1-shot ability. I also knew that I’d get a 1-shot ability once whatever role that was giving me info died.

When Alonzo died and flipped, I was like “oh, cool, that’s how i was getting this info.” Because all the information I got was given to right after end of night phase. I didn’t know it was Alonzo.

In post 4128, Flavor Leaf wrote:I got a true alignment shot basically. I believe I would have found out if he was SK.

In post 4122, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4119, DrewVa wrote:

In post 4114, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4111, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4106, Wisdom wrote:so tails is either vt or goon?

Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.

It’s also why I started to expect Tails knew stuff when I pushed him. I learned he wasn’t vanilla.

So Bujaber and Tails are scum but you don’t know what kind?

Idk if tails is scum. He’s just not Vanilla. Bujaber is scum.

Tails was a target by Alonzo, not me. I got a 1 shot ability after Alonzo died.

In post 4121, Flavor Leaf wrote:I really wish you would have went me last night, Profii.

Bujaber is not Underdog, either.

In post 4115, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4113, DrewVa wrote:

In post 4103, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4101, DrewVa wrote:

In post 4099, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber

you have one post to confirm this isn't a reaction test or I'm siding with scum

profii has already exhausted my willingness to fuck around for today

-d

Yeah, I have a guilty on Bujaber.

He was an amnesiac Vanilla cop, so you either get vanilla or non-vanilla, right?

For the first three nights, yes. I have my own action now that alonzo is Dead.

In post 4114, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4111, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4106, Wisdom wrote:so tails is either vt or goon?

Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.

It’s also why I started to expect Tails knew stuff when I pushed him. I learned he wasn’t vanilla.

In post 4111, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4106, Wisdom wrote:so tails is either vt or goon?

Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.

In post 4108, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4105, DrewVa wrote:so bujaber is "not vanilla"?

-d

No. He’s Mafia.

I only got Alonzo’s Vanilla results, which is why i was trying not to get shot until after I was able to get my own target.

In post 4103, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4101, DrewVa wrote:

In post 4099, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber

you have one post to confirm this isn't a reaction test or I'm siding with scum

profii has already exhausted my willingness to fuck around for today

-d

Yeah, I have a guilty on Bujaber.

In post 4102, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pint Night 1. Tails Night 2. Gamma Night 3.

I knew Gamma was Vanilla, and for some reason thought he was conf town because of that yesterday.

In post 4099, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 4096, Wisdom wrote:

In post 4094, Flavor Leaf wrote:Actually, I never did. I’m coming clean now. I’m town hardcore gambiting this game.

so you dont have anything to do with any of the kills?

Nope.

I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber

FL is definitely telling the truth about his role. I don’t believe he fakes this.

In post 4232, DrewVa wrote:VOTE: Bujaber

And Bujaber never explained his reasoning for his targets.

I've also never seen Bujaber AtE like this as scum but tbh your reads so far have been a lot better than mine Nancy so if you think we just go with FL's claim here then I'm onboard

I feel like I did with Gamma, but then Gamma flipped scum so my reads are like inverted or something idk -D

Profii can continue clearing people from Underdogs.

Amzela is conf not Underdog.

I forgot what his other targets were.

votecount

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

BuJaber (5):	Flavor Leaf (4099),	Fortian (4137),	profii (4161),	Wisdom (4171),	DrewVa (4232),
Flavor Leaf (1):	BuJaber (4183),
Not voting (4):	Tails,	davesaz,	DrippingGoofball,	Amzela,

(expired on 2018-12-28 05:45:00) remain.

In post 4209, BuJaber wrote:It sounded like a fakeclaim to me. Particularly that you've claimed multiple times. Also could be a nice claim for SK and reducing KPN is always good. Even if it weren't a fakeclaim targetting you would tell me things.

Like if you lie. Or if someone lies about targetting you.

Only night that was different wss night 2 because I hadn't sorted RR yet confidently and I thought if they were town it'd be worth keeping them alive and if scum I block them at least.

UNVOTE:

I don’t know again.

In post 4234, DrewVa wrote:I've also never seen Bujaber AtE like this as scum but tbh your reads so far have been a lot better than mine Nancy so if you think we just go with FL's claim here then I'm onboard

I feel like I did with Gamma, but then Gamma flipped scum so my reads are like inverted or something idk -D

That’s why I was asking as either alignment, because based on what I quoted, FL’s posts seems consistent with everything he’s claimed, as opposed to a fake claim.

It would take a helluva lot of reheasing on his part, to come off that genuine and believable about eveyone he posted, role-related, if it wasn’t true.

He would have likely slipped at some point, if he were lying.

And no one has CC’d as Alonzo’s recipient.

We also know that there isn’t another roleblocker on N1 and Bujaber should have claimed to JK BEF N1, because that would have actually been believable.

But why does FL say mafia specifically?

FL can’t be lying here, so I’m voting based on that.

VOTE: Bujaber

i think fl would have retracted if he was lying

Anybody who bothers to ISO FL will see how many claims he actually made so far.

As for DGB.. when she flips scum not 3p I'm gonna laugh all the way to the ego bank. 1 v 24 and the 1 gets it right.

In post 4240, BuJaber wrote:Anybody who bothers to ISO FL will see how many claims he actually made so far.

As for DGB.. when she flips scum not 3p I'm gonna laugh all the way to the ego bank. 1 v 24 and the 1 gets it right.

It has nothing to do with that, it has to do with his genuine, unrehearsed response to anything specifically connected to his claim. From his “vanilla” result on Gamma, to his completely spontaneous response about Tails, being “not vanilla”. It’s extremely difficult to fake something like that. A50’s fake claims, don’t go that far.

In post 4240, BuJaber wrote:Anybody who bothers to ISO FL will see how many claims he actually made so far.

As for DGB.. when she flips scum not 3p I'm gonna laugh all the way to the ego bank. 1 v 24 and the 1 gets it right.

he made one, which he retracted and explained it was so he lived long enough
you feel desperate here

We could have BuJ JK me tonight

I’m going to die any way and so if I survive we get an IC tomorrow + we know what to do with BuJ. If I die he isn’t acting pro town and has to die


Some questions though

BuJaber - I was quite clear that I was going to cop FL last night so why on earth did you JK him straight after Gamma flipped Underdog which verifies my cop claim

What’s your flavour?



Flavour Leaf - what’s you flavour? Did it change when you got the extra role?

if buj is final mafia we would be allowing an extra kill when we can remove it

and jk is not something worth leashing

Yea it’s playing with fire

for no reason

I mainly want the answer to why BuJ happened to JK a slot that was openly about to get copped seeing as it coincidently guilties him

even if he keeps you alive you wont get a result
dont see any value