Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[unwnd]

..Gamma not a mason FL?

[Flavor Leaf]

Could Xtoxm have gotten the traditional BEF role=(some variation of) fruit vendor?

I like that this is called the traditional BEF role.

he really do be rolling all types of fruit vendor.

[Flavor Leaf]

..Gamma not a mason FL?

Nah, I outed that yesterday. Decent chance of them being scum, tbh

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I was telling krazy last night that i thought the titus wagon was exceptionally town laziness and just people feeling she wasn't being townie enough or w/e but also like really bad. Also the whole she was behind and easy to push. I should have fought it but don't think i had the push to do anything, also think if i did push it i would get argumetns me defending titus would be white knighting or TMI. Or maybe i am making excuses! Who knows, could have done more. TOo bad i didn't. Fair criticism i guess.

I wanted to link her previous scumgame for comparison but the thread was already locked. :/

[catboi]

damn.

I really like that list, Catboi

That's funny because I hated it from about the moment I submitted it

[Flavor Leaf]

I've got Ydrasse, Unwnd, Skitter, Starcrossed as town so far.

im reading thru

Unwnd/Ydrasse/Skitts are probably my favourite town so far, i added Ydrasse cause i dont know if she's capable of faking this angry with Hectic gimmick all game among being really similiar to the other Versus and not like her scum game

Chara is noty scum.

Ydrasse why is this the only post I can really sense as content from your ISO
100+ posts and only one that feels like it might be a real-deal read vs. just reading someone off of likability or whatnot

Essentially thisi s why she's town lol

AM FECKIN MILLER JABRONI

i had a sneaking suspicion there'd be more. just a basic miller this time, then?

The Gamma wagon early wasn't bad but i do agree he's probably not scum both by virtue of draft and prolly gameplay so far.

(@ Skitts)

Chara and RCE are all good but you townread Tweetie here?

YOU TOO?

searching for scum within the Gamma votes feels like it has the same odds as searching for scum outside the Gamma votes.

I don't get the point of searching for scum specifically within the first RVS wagon w/ 4 ppl but i would say that, being in it, wouldn't i

da da da

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

that's about where I am, switch Ydrasse with Venus. I want to look back at MT's big post that I liked to see if I think it's scum now or not.

I tried to stop her wagon, put the crack pipe down.

[Flavor Leaf]

I actually believe this. Like in last game, it makes no sense to make this up. God only knows why Krazy gives you this role though.

Well in the last game, making up the Supersaint Enabler would have been legitimately hurtful to my team because it warns the town of what is coming

i can confirm i wouldnt think to make this up, but given that "Ascetic Miller" doesn't make sense, "Mafia Miller" doesn't really make sense either and could potentially be something that tips mafia off about this spam miller thing. So if you combine that with how Miller got moved to the "Any Alignment" category... yeah..

I think skitts is town though, dont know chkflip yet. Although at this point i dont think it makes much sense for mafia to claim they're a miller -- could see doing it early for WIFOM like me/skitts, but later in the day when chkflip had the luxury of choosing? its a small thing but unsure theres really much of a point to revealing that as mafia now

VOTE: Dannflor

[Flavor Leaf]

ya gamma im torn between Nancy playing to town meta but also that post making about zero sense to be asked in a hydra PT so whatever

If i'm the elim i want to get to make elim suggestions maybe if i can get enough credit

SKITTS IS THE ONE SAVING ME NOW? CHRARA WAS DROPPING ME OFF THE FACE OF THE CLFF AND SKITTS COMES INWITH THE "I'M NOT SURE THATS THE VOTE RN" GOD DAMN

Spoiler:

like i feel flavor doesn't really care about us and is just using us for his own pleasure here, does anyone get the same kind of vibes?
like he keeps irrationally accusing me of cheating on him with hectic for no reason, he's probably gaslighting us a bit on his reads and setup stuff (refusing to tell us about vanilla stuff), he's not giving us any space, he's demanding we spend all of our time with him, he's acting sometimes nice then shoving us away and shouting hateful stuff at us like 'hectic probably picked one of hop or ydrasse'. if anything goes wrong you can already tell he's going to blame us or the people on the wagon and stuff instead of himself. he literally won't allow us to criticise him because he's 'confirmed town', he keeps giving us guilty trips about stuff and there's those constant put downs to everyone except ydrasse. i feel like this isn't healthy?

this game for me in a nutshell

hahahahaha

My interest has dropped a little now, i dont think im terribly important because my early reads are not good but I'm unsure you'd really want me to hang around late game. But sorry about that

I believe ur about to get 3 pseudo confirmed townies which is hilarious but also begs the question of why Hectic would choose for that to happen, which i assume Hectic gets to influence that part he's informed of maybe im wrong. Just seems like a straight buff to town, even I would have known that if i had that info. Maybe thats why there's so much negative util but still

Looks like catboi/Titus are gonna be confirmed with... hm, I'll guess Lunar. (Just noticed that theres 3 VT claims already, not 2, but I still dont think Lunar is scum so whatever)

Skitts/unwnd/Ydrasse all town, probably Ydrasse higher but that'd be just perfect if she's scum. If I'm wrong on one its unwnd

Gamma is also town and i lean towards starcrossed maybe being frustrating town but i dont really have a reason

thats just a straight sheep on chkflip being town from 1-2 ppl soulreading that

I have Dann/Chara lower by virtue of Hectic having to pick 1-2 of them if my bottom tier contains all the scum, plus other ppl SR there. Venus i actually cannot imagine a situation where the slip makes sense for town, except maybe one really far-out one but whatever on that for now

Chkflip and Xtoxm might both be town but if there is scum in the neg util its there or unwnd if theyre killing it i suppose

uhh yea. Looking at it it feels like Hectic really only has one player he's really familiar with if scum is below the line (?) so that doesn't seem quite right. But nyeh im tired of it

Spoiler:

{Hop/Titus/catboiii}
{Lunar, Ydrasse}
{Skitts, unwnd, Gamma}
{Starcrossed}
-
{chkflip?}
{RCEnigma, Xtoxm, Fire}
{Dannflor, Chara, Venus}

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Could Xtoxm have gotten the traditional BEF role=(some variation of) fruit vendor?

I like that this is called the traditional BEF role.

he really do be rolling all types of fruit vendor.

They should change in the Wiki to the BEF.

[Gamma Emerald]

2.6

Xtoxm(7) ~

RCEnigma

(8),

Titus

(13), Morning Tweet(9), Lunar Martian(29), Starcrossed(88), skitter30(53), Gamma Emerald(13)
Ydrasse(1) ~ unwnd(52)
unwnd(1) ~ Firebringer(36)
Titus(1) ~ Hopkirk(9)
skitter30(1) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(159)
Morning Tweet(1) ~ catboi(19)
Gamma Emerald(0) ~ Hectic(11),

Flavor Leaf

(120)

2.8

Xtoxm(3) ~

RCEnigma(11), Titus(16),

skitter30(144)

Titus(3) ~ Hopkirk(35)

, unwnd(65),

Flavor Leaf(244)

, Lunar Martian(42)
skitter30(2) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(241), Xtoxm(10)
Morning Tweet(2) ~ catboi(26), Gamma Emerald(29)
unwnd(1) ~ Firebringer(58)
Chara(1) ~ Morning Tweet(38)
Gamma Emerald(0) ~ Hectic(12)


Not Voting (3): Chara(103), Starcrossed(161),

Ydrasse(80)

Day 2 END

Titus(8) ~ Hopkirk(35)

, unwnd(68),

Flavor Leaf(271)

, Lunar Martian(46), skitter30(156), Starcrossed(179), catboi(31), Morning Tweet(44),

Ydrasse(96)

-- HAMMER
Xtoxm(1) ~ RCEnigma(11)
unwnd(1) ~ Firebringer(67)
skitter30(1) ~ Xtoxm(10)
Morning Tweet(1) ~ Gamma Emerald(30)
Gamma Emerald(0) ~ Hectic(18)


Not Voting (2): Chara(107), Venus Mars and Pluto(271)

why is ydrasse purple on this

[Flavor Leaf]

Is Morning Tweet making these posts knowing who the scum team is?

that's what I'm trying to figure out here.

[Flavor Leaf]

i had a sneaking suspicion there'd be more. just a basic miller this time, then?

Hectic might've known one of the Millers was a vigilante.

[Flavor Leaf]

y'all, I haven't gotten any writing done today, why's this game gotta be so stimulating

[Flavor Leaf]

also, trying to setup my website, but my brain doesn't like to function when I start to work on tedious things like that.

[Ydrasse]

this game makes me feel spoiled with love:>

[Xtoxm]

i sent a message to gamma.

@skitter, is there anything in your miller ability about loyal/disloyal?

@MT, same question

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Is Morning Tweet making these posts knowing who the scum team is?

that's what I'm trying to figure out here.

She put us at #1 on her most recent list.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

i sent a message to gamma.

@skitter, is there anything in your miller ability about loyal/disloyal?

@MT, same question

I still think Xtoxm is town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Maybe Nancy's just scum, and everything else kinda can make sense afterwards

[Flavor Leaf]

im gonna look into them and gamma a bit more.

[unwnd]

VOTE: Morning Tweet

I think this is right, and it's a confident scumread that isn't just 'sorting process'. RCE was always just 'let's see' as with Titus.

[skitter30]

Maybe Nancy's just scum, and everything else kinda can make sense afterwards

I've been saying this for days lol

@xtoxm i have nothing loyal / disloyal in my role, its exactly what i claimed

[skitter30]

Want to vote in {xtoxm, tweetie, chara, venus}, they're not all town

[Flavor Leaf]

okay, I'm going to start rereading every single slot in the game individually, and see if I think what they've done this game has made them more likely to be scum or town.

Morning Tweet was on the Gamma Emerald wagon early, something I knew had something up with it. MT has been the one to say that they really didn't think much of it: I think this is because they are town. Earlier, I did not think that this was townie of them, and I thought it was possible scum who was trying to discredit looking further into or whatnot, but then when it got to the meat and bones of things, MT didn't really understand the reasoning I thought Dannfloor was scum on that wagon, and just the energy behind why there was scum stank all over the place there.

This reads now as super genuine.

I also generally like the idea of Skitter/Unwnd/Ydrasse being town as well. Skitter and Unwnd have both condemned themselves to death this game, and maybe that was scum being demoralized after a scum flip, who knows, but I still think they'd be doomed this game as scum here, and I really can't see them being scum right now. Ydrasse, I'm super town reading her, and like if she's scum here, I will think even more highly of her.

So I'm working with a Skitter, Unwnd, Morning Tweet, Ydrasse, Hopkirk town block here.