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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:04 am
by Bell
I don’t think Roden is incompetent.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:09 am
by Frogsterking
Hey guys I'm sorry, I actually read Bell as scum by tone/intuition in two places now and I'm going to jump on it.

VOTE: Bell

There are two specific posts which Bell soft pinged red for me which I can elaborate on if you want.

@Pooky


Bell -> scum
Roden -> null

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:10 am
by Bell
It’s cool that the Mason buddy is in my murder list though.
Makes my life easier regardless of how this shakes out.
Minus surprise turbo lim. Titus.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:10 am
by Lukewarm
That also seems completely irrelevant to the discussion.

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I think that this town is primed to kill Roden tomorrow if Bernard dies over night.

I also think that the scum team likely has a good chance to find bernard if they try hard enough because, even on a cursory search I was able to narrow the possibility pool WAY down, and a few of those people have already commented things saying that it is not them. (Off the top of my head TBone and Pooky were both on the possibilities, but have both openly claimed not Bernard)

If he is telling the truth, and bernard does not confirm today, then I can totally see tomorrow becoming an entire argument about:

"Did the scum team really manage to guess bernard" or "Did Scum!Roden hunt for the best person to claim was bernard, and then kill him"

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:11 am
by Bell
In post 4226, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I'm sorry, I actually read Bell as scum by tone/intuition in two places now and I'm going to jump on it.

VOTE: Bell

There are two specific posts which Bell soft pinged red for me which I can elaborate on if you want.

@Pooky


Bell -> scum
Roden -> null
*presses the explain option*
Go ahead Frog, show me why you’re wrong on your reasoning.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:11 am
by Bell
We have 7 days to find a way to get Rosen to find some optimal way to do this with their buddy.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:11 am
by Frogsterking
In post 3984, Frogsterking wrote:@Pooky

Johnny -> Null
In post 3985, Frogsterking wrote:Klick -> Town
In post 4226, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I'm sorry, I actually read Bell as scum by tone/intuition in two places now and I'm going to jump on it.

VOTE: Bell

There are two specific posts which Bell soft pinged red for me which I can elaborate on if you want.

@Pooky


Bell -> scum
Roden -> null
@Pooky

RCE -> Town

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:12 am
by Bell
In post 4227, Bell wrote:It’s cool that the Mason buddy is in my murder list though.
Makes my life easier regardless of how this shakes out.
Minus surprise turbo lim. Titus.
@Luke.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:13 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4211, Malakittens wrote:I’m so confused

Why did roden get limmed over taly

#askingforafriend
Why is Taly scum?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:13 am
by Bell
Also that was a movie reference. You sound upset Luke.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:15 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4232, Bell wrote:
In post 4227, Bell wrote:It’s cool that the Mason buddy is in my murder list though.
Makes my life easier regardless of how this shakes out.
Minus surprise turbo lim. Titus.
@Luke.
Talking about being anti town about your approach to this...

You should totally be helping the scum team find the answer.

I have a new guess, and based on this comment I have a feeling that you and I are currently guessing the same person, but was just... not going to say that?

Although, if you think that it is clear who it is, then I really don't know why you are so invested in stopping them from just saying it.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:15 am
by Dancing Puppets
I am completely lost now. Can someone explain this whole mason claim thing to me please?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:15 am
by Off The Hook
my feet hurt so much so im hiding in the washroom

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:16 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4234, Bell wrote:Also that was a movie reference. You sound upset Luke.
I would not say that I am upset.

Just trying to get you to understand my POV.

And failing apparently.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:17 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 4006, Roden wrote:Also Malcolm dropped to a scum read after his last response to my post was to basically accuse me of lying but then not push me
Catching up but this is incorrect. Was pushing Johnny incorrectly while they were around. Same with Rad. Happy to drop the vote though given the claim.

UNVOTE: Roden

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:17 am
by MalcolmTucker
Not sure I 100% trust the claim necessarily but I guess it's possible.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:17 am
by Off The Hook
bell what do u think of enchant?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:17 am
by Cephrir
In post 4083, Lukewarm wrote:VOTE: dunn
i had the same thought about dunn's post. i'm not 100% sure it was a slip, but it could have been.
In post 4139, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 4134, Lukewarm wrote:I am of the opinion that Bernard should claim if he exists.

If no one claims masons with Roden, we kill Roden.

If someone does, we kill
Dunn
Klick.
Fify. If Dunn is scum, it's with Roden but that's moonlogic paranoia.

~Titus
A Dunn/Roden team here makes so little sense as to defy belief. I don't think you are trying to solve this game.
In post 4144, T-Bone wrote:
In post 4001, Roden wrote:Yeah I'm not going to bother trying to keep up at this point, 70 pages is too much.

I can vaguely tell there's a wagon on me. I'm claiming Mason.
Masons in a game with also a bunch of neighborhoods?
Sure. Why not? Maybe there's a Traffic Analyst or something.
In post 4180, Bell wrote:Okay, am I in completely different world than the rest of you or are some people being completely anti-town in their approach here?
No, you're right. Every objection to letting Bernard stay hidden is easily defeated by a decent crumb. Furthermore, the mod suggested there is some way to learn dead roles, such as a coroner, and there is also some way to talk to the dead, leaving multiple avenues by which a dead Bernard could expose a liar.
In post 4182, Bell wrote:
In post 4111, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 4108, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4105, Enchant wrote:
In post 4102, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4094, Enchant wrote:If Roden mislimmed as town and scum somehow shots remaining mason at night, we are bonked hard.
Or we aren’t because then invests don’t die?
Like? No?
What point if mafia waltz in mason claim on almost confirmed status.
They’d have to explain how they are masons with Roden. It’d be an insanely high ridiculous bar and they’d have to show crumbs/evidence before this post

So they’d have to be planning it before Roden’s masons claim

It wouldn’t work
Dunn already showed no one could be masons. In fact....

VOTE: Roden
Like, what is this? Who does this?

What.
They're scum. Hope that helps!
In post 4226, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I'm sorry, I actually read Bell as scum by tone/intuition in two places now and I'm going to jump on it.

VOTE: Bell

There are two specific posts which Bell soft pinged red for me which I can elaborate on if you want.

@Pooky


Bell -> scum
Roden -> null
Frogsterking this is not what we are doing right now please pay attention.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:18 am
by Bell
*back pats* don’t be.
I’m mostly just arguing because I don’t understand. I don’t think anyone is stupid.
I accept your arguments.
I just think that Dunnstral’s point is *nuts* because of the aforementioned reasoning and I find the vote by Titus to also be nuts. I also think Thatmaybe Rosen can come up with a better solution.
Though at this point you may be right and it doesn’t matter

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:19 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4236, Dancing Puppets wrote:I am completely lost now. Can someone explain this whole mason claim thing to me please?
Roden claimed Mason.

Some people think it is a fake claim, and want to kill him.

Some people think that he is telling the truth.

Some people think that his mason partner should out to answer the above delima

Some people think that his mason partner should stay hidden, because "Don't give scum info" is a rule that applies in all situations, and should not actually weigh the pros and cons in the specific scenario (the last bit is me being sarcastic. I know you sometimes miss sarcasm, so wanted to clarify.)

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:20 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Has Roden been elimmed or not?

I mean, a Mason claim just clear

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:21 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Just clears two people so why would we not do that?

This also ties into my early game theory of some neighbourhoods being opposite alignment.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:21 am
by Cephrir
In case no one read my post, I am strongly against Bernard outing. As long as Roden agrees to ensure they crumb effectively.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:21 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 4239, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 4006, Roden wrote:Also Malcolm dropped to a scum read after his last response to my post was to basically accuse me of lying but then not push me
Catching up but this is incorrect. Was pushing Johnny
incorrectly
while they were around. Same with Rad. Happy to drop the vote though given the claim.

UNVOTE: Roden
I thought you still scumread johnny

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:22 am
by Cephrir
In post 4246, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Just clears two people so why would we not do that?

This also ties into my early game theory of some neighbourhoods being opposite alignment.
I mean this is likely the case by probability but it remains literally random.