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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:13 am
by Artem
Also, I think that Konowa and ThAdmiral should each make a large catch-up post, or replace out.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:22 am
by Artem
Actually, no, I'm sorry.
Unvote; Vote: Seraphim
I just looked at the wagons. I remember that Seraphim was concerned with defending those that flipped. In particular,
Saberwolf wrote:
That's TWO Goons you have defended, and both been lynched and revealed as such.
and
Seraphim wrote:
Hey, I defended someone and he flipped town!
Both are incorrect. Seraphim did not defend BOTH goons. He only defended Santos, he was on llama's wagon. He was also on the DTF's wagon. Defending somebody and then being on their wagon is hypocritical at best and pretty scummy at worst (you can claim either side of the argument: 1. I defended player X and 2. I was on player X's wagon; all depending on what needs to be claimed.)
I also find the playful interchange between Seraphim and Saberwolf at the beginning of Day 3 somewhat odd, especially with Saber saying that Sera defended both goons when the latter was on the llama's wagon.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:51 am
by saberwolf
Seraphim wrote:Konowa, while I agree that Llama doesn't look the most town, I don't think his attempted vote on Santos was distancing. In fact, I think it looks like you're jumping at shadows. Besides his lurking, I see no reason to suspect of being scum(then again, I haven't dissected his massive wall yet).
Tomorrow afternoon, I plan on going through the massive wall of text that Santos built, work on getting Konowa-scum lynched, and figure out what the deal is with llama and why everyone wants him lynched.
Until then, good night.
artem: I think this is why I said he was defending both goons, but I can agree with you, it is not completely accurate, now that I reread in ISO. We are running out of time people, and I for one am clueless of what to do...my only suspicious person right now is seraphim, but the problem with that is everyday I find something new to convince me the opposite, and then something else comes up and make me think he's scum again...I just don't know anymore...right now I'm gonna say kreriov, artem and konowa are town [as well as myself], OP I think is town, but want to look more into him,so that leaves JB, sera, and ThAd to look into. [as well as anyone else I missed, I think I got them all]
For now I can't get myself to move my vote. I'm currently like Seraphim right now...my gut says vote for him, but my head tells me it's wrong
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:23 am
by Kreriov
@Artem - I didn't ask if you thought it was far fetched that 3 scum bussed llama. I asked if you thought it likely. If you think there were 3 scum bussing llama, who are the two remaining? You are voting Seraphim and have stated most recently that you think both I and JamesBond are town. That leaves TheAdmiral and Konawa. You have stated previous that you think Konawa is town and also made statements about ThAdmiral being town. Has anything changed in these views?
@Sabrewolf - You didn't answer my general question for everyone. Do you think that all three scum were on the llama lynch?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:18 am
by Konowa
Right now my strongest town reads are Artem and Kreriov, followed by JB and op, to a lesser degree. That leaves me with ThAd, Seraphim, and saber. ThAd's perputual V/LA confuses me. However, the fact that no one has really tried to take advantage of it and push for a lurker lynch on ThAd leaves me with a feeling that he is town. Saying that, I do not believe that all three scum were on llama's lynch.
I am confident with either a saber or Seraphim lynch at this point.
saber for his 180 flip in stance regarding Santos without giving reason for why he ever liked or disliked Santos. I consider his [saber] vote on Santos very likely to be a bus vote. His open-endeness regarding his votes/cases also seems like scum testing the water. Finally his avoidance of the dj wagon the second time around comes off as avoidance to me.
Along with his [Seraphim] voting record, I also find his attack on me earlier very chainsawy. As soon as I started a competing wagon on Santos, Seraphim started threatening me. When I pushed for more Santos votes he attacks me more.
vote Seraphim
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:07 am
by Seraphim
*sigh*
Good luck town. I cannot see myself getting out of this one.
Unvote
Vote: Seraphim
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:06 pm
by JamesBond
I seriously dont think Seraphim is the best lynch here. Although he isnt the worst one either.
But im gonna go through with it anyway, since the time is fuckin us up, so Im doing this the need for speed way, as explained earlier.
Vote: Seraphim
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:18 pm
by Artem
JamesBond wrote:I seriously dont think Seraphim is the best lynch here. Although he isnt the worst one either.
But im gonna go through with it anyway, since the time is fuckin us up, so Im doing this the need for speed way, as explained earlier.
Vote: Seraphim
Wow. Just wow.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:22 pm
by Artem
Mod: did OP's vote count?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:28 pm
by JamesBond
Artem wrote:JamesBond wrote:I seriously dont think Seraphim is the best lynch here. Although he isnt the worst one either.
But im gonna go through with it anyway, since the time is fuckin us up, so Im doing this the need for speed way, as explained earlier.
Vote: Seraphim
Wow. Just wow.
Why wow? He selfvoted, aint exactly lookin like the wagon will stop, and even though I dont have Sera 1:st on my list, we are in a tough spot with time here, and better vote him out now than get him outvoted a day from now anyway.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:55 pm
by ThAdmiral
I swear content is coming, but it's my girlfriends birthday and she's, like, making me do stuff with her.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:48 pm
by StrangerCoug
Seraphim (5): Kreriov, Artem, Konowa, Seraphim, JamesBond
Not voting (3): ThAdmiral, orangepenguin, saberwolf
With
8
players alive, it'll take
5
votes to lynch.
"What's taking so long?" the ghost of the mayor of Puerto Morado said. "You don't have much time. The town must be rid of the scum."
"We're trying!" you respond to the voice, even if it's only true of six of you.
Well, make that five. Two are scum and one gave up.
"Kill me," Seraphim said.
JamesBond happily complied and went to go through his house. He, like anybody else at Puerto Morado, did a thorough search of the town. Again, nothing incriminating came up.
"We have even less time now, everybody," JamesBond said. "I've survived a time bomb at Fort Knox way back a few decades ago, but I'm getting too old to do this on my own. I need help."
You need help, too. The city was now less than a week away from meeting its explosive end.
Seraphim, who was a
vanilla townie
, has been lynched on Day 5.
I hope you find scum before September 6 and are not about ready to mislynch on Thursday, town. You are
REALLY
going to need this next one right to stand much of a chance in my eyes.
Once again, just because I mentioned the name of a living player in the flavor does not say about his or her alignment.
Not voting (7): ThAdmiral, orangepenguin, saberwolf, Kreriov, Artem, Konowa, JamesBond
With
7
players alive, it'll take
4
votes to lynch.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:21 pm
by Artem
JamesBond wrote:
Why wow? He selfvoted, aint exactly lookin like the wagon will stop, and even though I dont have Sera 1:st on my list, we are in a tough spot with time here, and better vote him out now than get him outvoted a day from now anyway.
Because it was practically a "Bah! Go town" post.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:28 pm
by Artem
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:54 am
by Kreriov
@Artem - I just cannot vote ThAdmiral. There is simply no content to go on. There HAS to be at least one scum among you, OP, and Sabre.
Vote: Sabrewolf
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:03 am
by Kreriov
@ThAdmiral - Having said that to Artem, you either vote and post actual content today, or I will change my vote to you. It doesn't matter if you are town any more. We are out of time. We need to lynch a scum in our next 2 tries and by Thur or the game is over. Your excuses are no longer acceptable.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:30 am
by ThAdmiral
People who voted for lama early: kreriov, jamesbond
To a lesser extent: konowa,
seraphim
others who voted for lama:
don_johnson
,
santos
Typical scumwagon with a scum getting on near the end to hammer and be part of the town crowd.
I would say kreriov and jamesbond are highly likely to be town, and konowa definitely gets town points.
--
People who voted for santos early: kreriov, konowa, jamesbond
other people who voted for santos: artem (carry over vote), saberwolf,
don_johnson
Kreriov and jamesbond are near confirmed in my eyes. Konowa also looks very good.
If anyone was wagoning here I think it was saberwolf who seemed quite intent on a seraphim lynch and then moved over to santos when he was looking like the lynch of the day.
I'm thinking saberwolf is our best bet, especially with posts like this:
saberwolf wrote:Well, I'll give seraphim the benefit of the doubt....for now. If DJ flips town, I know who my sights will be set on. For now the last on the BW theory has some merit to it.
vote: don_johnson
Attempting to set up a chain lynch is, in my eyes, one of the biggest scum tells.
vote: saberwolf
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:27 am
by Konowa
vote saberwolf
For reasons stated earlier.
Analysis will come after I put my daughter down for a nap and get a quick bite to eat.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:47 am
by saberwolf
vote: thAdmiral
All I know is I'm town. I don't have the time to sit down and make an argument pleading my case right now. I wouldn't be surprised if artem is scum. He's done a good job of avoiding all radar. Kreriov has avoided radar too, but my gut tells me he's town.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:09 am
by Konowa
Any reasoning for your vote?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:53 am
by Kreriov
@konawa - you need to vote for someone. At least say something about your suspicions. Delay is not an option right now. I figure we have to lynch someone tonight becuase if we make a mistake there is no way we will get another lynch by Thur noon. Look at the typical times that people are replying.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:03 am
by Artem
Here's the difference between ThAdmiral and
DataDanne
Saberwolf.
The latter one realized that they have no time to commit to a time-sensitive game and replaced out.
The former one skated through the entire game based on the early townie vibes.
Which one is more pro-town?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:17 am
by Konowa
I am voting for saber, Kreriov.
Artem, I could see scum replacing out under those circumstances also. Especially with all the early game talk about lynching lurkers.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:24 am
by Konowa
Double-post.
I do not like how you [Artem] are trying to paint a null-tell, replacing out, as a pro-town move.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:21 pm
by Kreriov
@Konawa - Sorry, I missed that vote.
@Artem - I agree ThAdmiral has been absentee, but he has been trying. If it were only this game, I would agree with you. The thing is, he has been trying desperately to participate - as both mod and player - in other games. So, we do have little to go on. But that little is definitely townie. Sabre, however, has alot to go on and much of it is scummy.