Open 503 - POLYGAMY IS EVIL. GAME OVER

[Xegarus]

Votecount 1.6

7 votes to lynch.

macmollie

- L7

Nachomamma8

Ms Marangal

- L6

Wisdom

Vigilante Ventriloquist

- L6

Ms Marangal

- L7

Voodoo Lady

enomis, Mutley, Nachomamma8

- L4

absta101

- L7

The Acting Method

- L7

enomi

Voodoo Lady

- L6

Core_H86

- L7

Mutleyddmc

- L7

Vigilante Ventriloquist

The Acting Method, macmollie

- L5

mujie

- L7

Not voting

Wisdom
absta101
Core_H86
mujie

Deadline (expired on 2013-06-23 17:58:12)

If you see any mistakes, let me know please.

[Wisdom]

So I went and tried to meta VV since more than 1 people asked.

Problem is, he only has 3 completed games (I'm guessing he has more under alts given the join date), and those 3 are from long ago.
They were 2 town and 1 scum game. I think that his play in the scum game looks more like his play here; I could see some examples of rudeness, dodging, sarcasm; elements that we can see in this game.

Spoiler: For example

I didn't drop anything. I decided not to waste time arguing it. Just like I'm going to ignore your response to my fencesitting point. I trust that people in this game are smart enough to draw their own conclusions from it without a useless argument cluttering up the thread.

Yeah, seriously, how dare he leave for 5 days. I can't even think of a town motivation for his priorities.

"Hmmm....well this could be scummy, but it could not be depending on how much Antitown knows."

You're right. I don't know how I mistook that for fencesitting.

In his town games he seemed more analytic and polite.

However I don't know if that means anything at all given the long time gap.

[macmollie]

dafaq mollie
I am not supporting VV-scum since I unvoted them, before you even replaced in
You really are not concentrated in reading tonight

stop acting like a dummy

there were 12 pages when I replaced in and I read them all but it is pretty unrealistic to expect me to remember every single little sequence of events of interactions that have nothing to do with me.

looked back on voodoo and her entrance looked bad but other than that she did not blip my scumdar.

what do you think of this:

Regarding my "too scum to be scum" statement. I know that argument is a dumb one but I stand by it considering VV's experience.

VV has played scum around 10-15 times

, I highly doubt her scum game would be this shit. If someone has played with VV and can confirm that her scum game is shit I'll put my vote back on her of course.

I'm going to look into Vodo now.
Are the people who are voting her for the first post she made not taking into account that it was an RVS vote?

cos I find it really freaking weird that you somehow managed to miss this post when you made this one:

So I went and tried to meta VV since more than 1 people asked.

Problem is, he only has 3 completed games (I'm guessing he has more under alts given the join date), and those 3 are from long ago.
They were 2 town and 1 scum game. I think that his play in the scum game looks more like his play here; I could see some examples of rudeness, dodging, sarcasm; elements that we can see in this game.

Spoiler: For example

I didn't drop anything. I decided not to waste time arguing it. Just like I'm going to ignore your response to my fencesitting point. I trust that people in this game are smart enough to draw their own conclusions from it without a useless argument cluttering up the thread.

Yeah, seriously, how dare he leave for 5 days. I can't even think of a town motivation for his priorities.

"Hmmm....well this could be scummy, but it could not be depending on how much Antitown knows."

You're right. I don't know how I mistook that for fencesitting.

In his town games he seemed more analytic and polite.

However I don't know if that means anything at all given the long time gap.

I mean how did you miss that

@ nacho

I think you are town and I think you need to back off of voodoo lady and look at the dynamics of wisdom/vigiven/absta. vigiven is doing exactly what rainbowdash did in adventure time. the dynamics between the aforementioned 3 is pretty freaking weird plz help me sort it before you ack ack ack let's lynch voodoo cos if she flips town and if you continue ignore this you are going to feel like a dummy.

@ mara

nacho is town will you for the love of apollo just for ONCE trust my read.

@ tam

mara is town. why are you trying to work your way into a scumread on her.

[enomis]

Hi mollie.

Tell me, though. Enomis. What would you have said if you were in her position instead of "fellow townies"?

What's the point of you asking me this? Probably something like other people?

...oh, I get it. You're arguing that me referring to the collective twelve players as the town constitutes a scumslip, right? I've heard this argument used before to suggest I was scum. And this is how I replied:

We're using "town" here not to refer to innocents but as a way to refer to the collective opinion of you, me, and the other seven players here. I really, really, really hope you aren't going to argue that referring to the collective group as "the town" is a scumtell. (Spoiler alert: it isn't.)

In some contexts, I use the words town, townies, townsperson(s), etc. to refer to unspecified player(s) in the game regardless of their alignment(s). If this is the entirety of your case on me, it's a pretty lame case.

Could you refer me to games(post specifically) where you use townies as a unspecified player but not someone who is town?

[The Acting Method]

I did ask if polygamsit 422 was the last game? That was the game I was referring too. Hence why I didn't want to go at you for it and wanted to make sure I was right. Then I've been told that 483? or 485? Was the last game. So hence why you were referring to it as that game. The 422 must be the 1 out 3 that it didnt happen.

I must of missed it under your accusations of me lying. You didn't word that post if you wanted clarification if that was the last polygamist played... I mean you clearly didn't do any research like say... pressing the lovely little "View posts" button you can find if you look at my profile... pretty sure the games also linked on my wiki.

[Mutleyddmc]

Yer I did say if (well actually I missed typed and said 'of') then you are lying, got it clarified and Iwas wrong. I'm lazy, it was impressive enough I went to the wiki and then went and read one page. To expect me to then do yours. Well..... too much wrok.

[Mutleyddmc]

Am I right in thinking that the last polygamist on here was open 422? Well I've only read the first page of that, and the fort person to suggest mass claim was scum. Now TAM was part of that game. He said he modded another off site. So surely they are his last two games involved in this set up. Now of that's true. TAM you are Lying about the last two times the first mass claim suggestion came from scum.

See if you look my first line/question is cleary a clarification post.
Where I end if this is true(its not) you are lying.
I got told 485 was played therefore it became irrelevant. Didn't help because of my poor wording

[Wisdom]

what do you think of this:

Regarding my "too scum to be scum" statement. I know that argument is a dumb one but I stand by it considering VV's experience.

VV has played scum around 10-15 times

, I highly doubt her scum game would be this shit. If someone has played with VV and can confirm that her scum game is shit I'll put my vote back on her of course.

I'm going to look into Vodo now.
Are the people who are voting her for the first post she made not taking into account that it was an RVS vote?

cos I find it really freaking weird that you somehow managed to miss this post when you made this one:

So I went and tried to meta VV since more than 1 people asked.

Problem is, he only has 3 completed games (I'm guessing he has more under alts given the join date), and those 3 are from long ago.
They were 2 town and 1 scum game. I think that his play in the scum game looks more like his play here; I could see some examples of rudeness, dodging, sarcasm; elements that we can see in this game.

Spoiler: For example

I didn't drop anything. I decided not to waste time arguing it. Just like I'm going to ignore your response to my fencesitting point. I trust that people in this game are smart enough to draw their own conclusions from it without a useless argument cluttering up the thread.

Yeah, seriously, how dare he leave for 5 days. I can't even think of a town motivation for his priorities.

"Hmmm....well this could be scummy, but it could not be depending on how much Antitown knows."

You're right. I don't know how I mistook that for fencesitting.

In his town games he seemed more analytic and polite.

However I don't know if that means anything at all given the long time gap.

I mean how did you miss that

mollie I'm starting to get annoyed by your failing to read things.
VV stated that he had 10-15 scum games in response to absta's question:

@VV - How much experience do you have as scum?

I think somewhere in the 10-15 games range.

And I did mention that given the join date the other games were under alts:

(I'm guessing he has more under alts given the join date)

So you're derping again and I'm starting to wonder if it's just derp of if you're misrepping on purpose

[Wisdom]

@ nacho

I think you are town and I think you need to back off of voodoo lady

I really don't like this given you don't claim having a townread on voodoo lady.
I really don't like your reluctance to read voodoo lady in general.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Voodoo Lady

macmollie and probably Marangal work well as her buddies

[macmollie]

@ nacho

I think you are town and I think you need to back off of voodoo lady

I really don't like this given you don't claim having a townread on voodoo lady.
I really don't like your reluctance to read voodoo lady in general.

the fuck I haven't

I SAID I DID NOT LIKE HER ENTRANCE POST. OTHER THAN THAT SHE HAS NOT DINGED MY SCUMDAR. IF I NEED TO STATE THIS MORE THEN WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT I AM UNSURE ABOUT HER.

that was a misrep right there

you just saw my scum game wtf

and you have played with me enough to know that I misconstrue things all of the time and if anything that is usually a town tell for me

I am a complete and total narcissist when it comes to mafia I usually only remember things that directly concern me that is why I am always hellbent on interacting with everybody

you know this dammit

.

[Wisdom]

You are unsure.
You don't townread her.
Yet you try to talk Nacho into leaving her alone.
Why?

[macmollie]

cos I think there are bigger fish to fry and I am not in the habit of lynching players out of my unsure pile I will do it as a compromise lynch if I can't get my scum read lynched.

again, this is shit you know about me that you are pretending otherwise is really freaking me out!

[Wisdom]

Maybe if you stopped misreading everything it'd help

Who are the bigger fish? I get what you're saying about VV, what else?

[Wisdom]

again, this is shit you know about me that you are pretending otherwise is really freaking me out!

btw dont give me this shit after you stated in the other game that you mindfuck people by playing to your town meta

[macmollie]

Maybe if you stopped misreading everything it'd help

Who are the bigger fish? I get what you're saying about VV, what else?

I am trying to work that out but vv is the fish I am talking about. you aren't giving me warm during this exchange so you getting knocked down to unsure.

you know I get my scum reads usually by direct interaction dammit.

we have only been in this game for like 2 minutes it isn't like I have a lot to go on.

again, this is shit you know about me that you are pretending otherwise is really freaking me out!

btw dont give me this shit after you stated in the other game that you mindfuck people by playing to your town meta

fuck this shit

mara and nacho are you seeing this?

what I said in that game, speaking of reading, is that I wanted to mindfuck nacho cos I thought he could take it. it is rare that I find a person that I want to do that to cos most people really cannot take it.

[Mutleyddmc]

I ca always take it

[Mutleyddmc]

can*** stupid thing

[Wisdom]

we have only been in this game for like 2 minutes it isn't like I have a lot to go on.

Yet it's enough for you to misread everything and misrep people, isn't it?

[macmollie]

we have only been in this game for like 2 minutes it isn't like I have a lot to go on.

Yet it's enough for you to misread everything and misrep people, isn't it?

yes. wisdom I sometimes misread or misinterpret things in games when I am not part of the interaction.

its like you are not reading a goddamn thing I say

[Wisdom]

I mean okay, I bought you misread who mujie was addressing because you were skimming
But then missing completely that I had stopped pressing VV
And then totally ignoring that I had mentioned that the other games are probably under alts?
And then accusing me on top of that, based solely on this ignorance.

No mollie I haven't seen you doing that in your town games. Sure you didn't do that in the popcorn game, but in the popcorn game it wasn't even your proper scumgame since you gave up in the middle of things because of don. So don't tell me that I should know you do these things as town because you don't.

[Nachomamma8]

mara and nacho are you seeing this?

yes and it's hilarious

[macmollie]

I hate you

[macmollie]

I know you are laughing out loud I can

hear

it.

[Voodoo Lady]

I have a bad feeling about Voodoo too, even though I disagree that her first post means anything either way. It's not likely that scum would slip like that in their first posts.

Cautious nature is more playstyle than alignment, I think

I'm curious why you're parking your vote on someone who you just have bad feelings about rather than someone you are actively arguing with and insinuating is scum.