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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:58 am

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TO BE HONEST CLARAMATA, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT YOU ARE THE CULT LEADER: MY SUSPICIONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH LIMITED ACCESS, BUT RATHER THE FACT THAT THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE I CAN SAY WITHOUT A DOUBT ARE NOT THE CULT LEADER, AND THOSE ARE FRITZ (ABSOLUTELY CONFIRMED), MAZ MEDIAS (AS HE WAS ROLE-BLOCKED NIGHTS 1 AND 2), AND MYSELF (SINCE I WAS A FAILED RECRUITMENT).

YOU ARE ONLY ON THE LIST THROUGH DEDUCTION, BUT I AM MORE CONFIDENT THAT LOGICTICUS IS AT THE VERY LEAST IN THE CULT, AND AT THE VERY MOST THE CULT LEADER TRYING TO POINT THE FINGER AT ME.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:58 am

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Vote: Logic


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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:04 am

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ALL RIGHT, IF LOGICTICUS TURNS UP CULT (AND HE HAD BETTER), THEN I WOULD SUSPECT THAT MAZ MEDIAS WAS RECRUITED EITHER NIGHT 3 OR NIGHT 4.

I WON'T SAY WHO I WILL PROTECT TONIGHT AGAINST THE CULT, ON THE OFF-CHANCE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH A CULT THAT
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DISBAND WHEN THE CULT LEADER DIES. OF COURSE, FRITZ MIGHT TRY ROLE-BLOCKING MAZ (IF THE CULT DOESN'T DISBAND) AND ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM ANYWAYS, IN WHICH CASE I CAN USE TRADITIONAL PROTECTION AND WE MIGHT HAVE 5 PLAYERS LIVING TOMORROW INSTEAD OF 4.

FRITZ, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY WHO YOU'RE GOING TO ROLE-BLOCK TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU PLAN ON ROLE-BLOCKING MAZ I WILL PLAN ON USING TRADITIONAL PROTECTION.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:07 am

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You got my back if i block maz?
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:11 pm

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You all ignore Logiciticus. He was
Schrademan




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You are Schrademan, conservative and modding great. However, since you are pretty firmly anti-liberal, and the chat is liberal, this has pissed you off. However, since you are so smart, each night you may convince someone to turn conservative. You win when the majority of the chat is conservative. Also, you may talk to Catdarquiel (<snipzorz even though it don't matter>) and Conservatives at night.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:43 am

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You all wake and enter the thread, You find nothing waiting there for you. Wierd, huh?

Ironically, this was actually night 5. I also got pms saying 'night 3' :D.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:49 am

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Vote: PJ
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:49 am

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I know for a fact he's scum.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:49 pm

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How do you know that, Fritzler? o_o I thought you were a roleblocker?
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:38 am

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Gee Fritz, if you blocked Maz last night how on earth could you know that PJ was scum? Get recruited by the cult much?

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I'm almost certain we're in lynch or lose, so I'd like to step lightly, but I think Fritz just made his final goof.

Also: I'm at a friend's lakehouse; I'll try to be on as much as possible in the next few days.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:33 pm

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Yeah, it's always in the town's best interest to announce exactly what they're doing each day and stick to that exactly. Absolutely no chance for the scum to play around it then! :roll:
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:23 pm

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You know Maz, you're real lucky that Fritz is being an idiot, because you were the only one defending Logic yesterday, and he turned up as the cult leader.

In the situation we are in, LAL is a pretty good rule of thumb. If Fritz said he was going to block you last night, and now announces that he conveniently knows that PJ was scum, well then gee. Logic made up a investigative ability yesterday, and he was the cult leader. I trust nobody at this stage in the game.

Fritz or Maz should hang at day's end or I suspect that we lose. Period. Keep that in mind Clara and PJ.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:38 pm

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Let me elaborate.

For one thing, the conditions under which he said he would block me were NOT THE SAME as the conditions under which he actually made the decision. Logic being the cult leader may have given him a reason to target someone else.

Also, there are six people alive right now, right? We haven't killed A SINGLE MAFIOSO. In fact, I don't have time to run the figures in my head, but I think we will lose if we don't hang a mafia member tonight. Someone check that.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:03 am

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Lostprophet wrote:Gee Fritz, if you blocked Maz last night how on earth could you know that PJ was scum? Get recruited by the cult much?

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I'm almost certain we're in lynch or lose, so I'd like to step lightly, but I think Fritz just made his final goof.

Also: I'm at a friend's lakehouse; I'll try to be on as much as possible in the next few days.
lol, I did block Maz (there wasn't a resurection was there?). I know for other reasons.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:11 am

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Huh, wasted block. :roll:
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:30 am

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1 vote Fritzler, 1 vote PJ. With 5 alivem it's three to lynch.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:44 pm

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We've got 5 alive. Which means we have two Mafiosos, tops. So yes, we do need to hit a Mafioso today. Touche.

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HOWEVER:

I find Fritz's play very suspicious. I'd love to know why, at this stage in the game, Fritz *knows* that PJ is a Mafioso. Fritz was cleared, which is the only reason his play couldn't be a crazy scum gambit. I suspect that he's some sort of back-up Cult leader, but that's moot for now.

There have been no other Docs, and I'm really not feeling that this game has no Doc. Fritz, how is it that you happen to know that PJ is scum?
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:53 pm

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HUNH, INTERESTING.

I HAVE A FEELING THAT FRITZ DID NOT ROLE-BLOCK MAZ MEDIAS
AT ALL
LAST NIGHT. HE DID NOT ROLE-BLOCK ME (SO MY TRADITIONAL PROTECTION OF FRITZLER STILL WENT THROUGH AS FAR AS I KNOW, SO IF HE WAS TARGETED FOR NIGHT-KILLING THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THE LACK OF DEATHS TODAY), AND I AM THINKING HE EITHER ROLE-BLOCKED SOMEBODY ELSE OR NOBODY AT ALL.

I CAN FIND NO OTHER REASON FOR FRITZ'S ACTIONS. HE MUST HAVE BEEN RECRUITED LAST NIGHT INTO THE CULT BY MAZ MEDIAS. THE FACT IS THAT I AM NOT SCUM, AND I AM FRANKLY GETTING ANNOYED THAT THIS IS SECOND TIME I HAVE BEEN ATTACKED BY A SEPERATE PLAYER ON A SEPERATE DAY AFTER I HAVE ALREADY SHOWN THAT I AM THE DOCTOR.

AS A POINT OF INTEREST, ALTHOUGH I DID NOT REALIZE IT EARLIER, THERE ACTUALLY
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FLAVOR IN MY ROLE PM HINTING AT HOW I AM NOT RECRUITABLE. I DID NOT REALIZE IT AT FIRST (SINCE THE CULT WAS SIMPLY SEEN AS A "DARK FORCE") BUT MY ROLE EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT I AM QUITE LIBERAL, AND NONRECEPTIVE TO CONSERVATIVE PROPAGANDA (ALTHOUGH IT IS STATED DIFFERENTLY IN MY PM, OF COURSE). I HADN'T CONSIDERED THAT THE CULT WAS MADE UP OF "CONSERVATIVES", SO AT THE TIME, I DID NOT SEE HOW I COULD NOT BE RECRUITED. NOW IT MAKES SENSE, AS SCHRADERMAN WAS CONVERTING PEOPLE TO CONSERVATISM.

LONG STORY SHORT: I THINK FRITZ WAS RECRUITED BY MAZ. AS IT IS, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT FRITZ'S ROLE-BLOCKING
WORKS
. HE ROLE-BLOCKED MAZ NIGHT 1 (TO NO EFFECT, SINCE MAZ COULD NOT HAVE USED HIS ABILITY), HE ROLE-BLOCKED BACDE ON THE SAME NIGHT BACDE DIED (HENCE WE CANNOT KNOW HIS ROLE-BLOCKING WORKS), AND HE CLAIMS HE ROLE-BLOCKED MAZ MEDIAS LAST NIGHT, BUT NOW SUDDENLY CLAIMS THAT HE "KNOWS" I AM SCUM. THIS ACTUALLY WOULD HELP BALANCE THE GAME: GIVE THE TOWN TWO PRO-TOWN ROLE-BLOCKERS, BUT HAVE ONE OF THEM BE INEFFECTIVE, OR EVEN GIVE THEM ONLY A 50% AT SUCCESS WITHOUT TELLING THEM.

I HATE SAYING WHO MY BELIEVED INNOCENTS ARE ALL THE TIME (SINCE IT MAKES THEM MORE LIKELY TO BE RECRUITED), BUT LOSTPROPHET IS PRETTY MUCH ON MY 90% PRO-TOWN LIST. I AGREE THAT MAZ AND FRITZ ARE PROBABLY BOTH PART OF THE CULT, AND THAT ONE OF THEM MUST BE LYNCHED. BOTH WILL APPARANTLY HAVE RECRUITMENT POWERS EVEN THOUGH LOGICTICUS IS DEAD, SO I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE THIS GAME CAN EVEN BE WON BY THE TOWN. :(

IN ANY CASE, IT COULD BE DANGEROUS TO LEAVE A RECRUITED ROLE-BLOCKER (EVEN AN INEFFECTIVE ROLE-BLOCKER) ALIVE. ALTHOUGH I COULD TECHNICALLY PUT MY VOTE ON FRITZ RIGHT NOW, I WILL HOLD ON MY SUSPICIONS UNTIL WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:35 am

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Vote: petroleumjelly
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Lynching a cultist today wins the game for the mafia. Lynching a mafia today wins the game for the town. Considering the latter, my vote is placed.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:36 am

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MAZ MEDIAS, THE FACT THAT YOU KEEP ATTACKING ME, AND THAT YOU ARE A KNOWN CULTIST IS NOT HELPING THINGS. AS IT IS, YOU MUST HAVE RECRUITED FRITZLER LAST NIGHT, ELSE I CANNOT POSSIBLY IMAGINE WHY FRITZLER WOULD ATTEMPT SUCH A CRAZY ATTACK ON ME AFTER WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

I DO FIND IT INTERESTING HOW TWO DAYS IN A ROW I HAVE BEEN DOUBLETEAMED. YESTERDAY, IT WAS MAZ MEDIAS AND LOGICITUCUS: NOW THAT LOGICTICUS IS DEAD, IT IS MAZ MEDIAS AND FRITZLER. AND WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT MAZ MEDIAS IS A CULTIST. HM.

I'LL STILL HOLD MY VOTE, THOUGH, WE HAVE YET TO HEAR BACK FROM CLARAMATA TODAY.

ALSO, I'LL ASK IT AGAIN, BUT CLARAMATA, DO YOU KNOW IF BACDE EVER USED HIS "HACKING" ABILITY, OR ATTEMPTED TO USE HIS ABILITY?

FURTHER, MAZ MEDIAS, IF YOU RECRUITED FRITZLER LAST NIGHT, THE TOWN WILL LOSE BY NOT LYNCHING ONE OF THE TWO OF YOU. FOR HOWEVER MUCH YOU HAVE BEEN ATTACKING ME FOR ATTACKING THE CULT, YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DEFLECT FROM THE CULT PRACTICALLY THIS ENTIRE GAME.

NEVERTHELESS, I THINK FRITZLER IS THE CORRECT LYNCH TODAY OVER MAZ MEDIAS. FRITZLER, SO FAR AS WE KNOW, STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO ROLE-BLOCK (EVEN IF HIS CHANCES ARE ONLY 50%, OR SOMETHING), WHEREAS WE KNOW THAT MAZ MEDIAS ALREADY USED HIS ABILITY TO RESURRECT SOMEBODY.

IN FACT... FRITZ MAY HAVE BEEN RESURRECTED SIMPLY SO THAT HE COULD BE RECRUITED, AS A "CONFIRMED" INNOCENT WITH AN ABILITY. IT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A COINCIDENCE THAT MAZ MEDIAS FAILED TO RESURRECT MASTERMIND OF SIN (ROLENAME FRITZLER) WHO WOULD HAVE HAD TWO INSTANTANEOUS INVESTIGATIONS.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:37 am

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petroleumjelly wrote:MAZ MEDIAS, THE FACT THAT YOU KEEP ATTACKING ME, AND THAT YOU ARE A KNOWN CULTIST IS NOT HELPING THINGS. AS IT IS, YOU MUST HAVE RECRUITED FRITZLER LAST NIGHT, ELSE I CANNOT POSSIBLY IMAGINE WHY FRITZLER WOULD ATTEMPT SUCH A CRAZY ATTACK ON ME AFTER WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

I DO FIND IT INTERESTING HOW TWO DAYS IN A ROW I HAVE BEEN DOUBLETEAMED. YESTERDAY, IT WAS MAZ MEDIAS AND LOGICITUCUS: NOW THAT LOGICTICUS IS DEAD, IT IS MAZ MEDIAS AND FRITZLER. AND WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT MAZ MEDIAS IS A CULTIST. HM.

I'LL STILL HOLD MY VOTE, THOUGH, WE HAVE YET TO HEAR BACK FROM CLARAMATA TODAY.

ALSO, I'LL ASK IT AGAIN, BUT CLARAMATA, DO YOU KNOW IF BACDE EVER USED HIS "HACKING" ABILITY, OR ATTEMPTED TO USE HIS ABILITY?

FURTHER, MAZ MEDIAS, IF YOU RECRUITED FRITZLER LAST NIGHT, THE TOWN WILL LOSE BY NOT LYNCHING ONE OF THE TWO OF YOU. FOR HOWEVER MUCH YOU HAVE BEEN ATTACKING ME FOR ATTACKING THE CULT, YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DEFLECT FROM THE CULT PRACTICALLY THIS ENTIRE GAME.

NEVERTHELESS, I THINK FRITZLER IS THE CORRECT LYNCH TODAY OVER MAZ MEDIAS. FRITZLER, SO FAR AS WE KNOW, STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO ROLE-BLOCK (EVEN IF HIS CHANCES ARE ONLY 50%, OR SOMETHING), WHEREAS WE KNOW THAT MAZ MEDIAS ALREADY USED HIS ABILITY TO RESURRECT SOMEBODY.

IN FACT... FRITZ MAY HAVE BEEN RESURRECTED SIMPLY SO THAT HE COULD BE RECRUITED, AS A "CONFIRMED" INNOCENT WITH AN ABILITY. IT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A COINCIDENCE THAT MAZ MEDIAS FAILED TO RESURRECT MASTERMIND OF SIN (ROLENAME FRITZLER) WHO WOULD HAVE HAD TWO INSTANTANEOUS INVESTIGATIONS.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:43 am

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GOODNESS.

FRITZLER, YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ROLE-BLOCKED MAZ MEDIAS LAST NIGHT. I PROTECTED YOU LAST NIGHT. NOBODY DIED LAST NIGHT. MAZ MEDIAS PROBABLY EITHER TRIED TO RECRUIT SOMEBODY LAST NIGHT, OR MAY HAVE EVEN ATTEMPTED TO KILL SOMEBODY LAST NIGHT (WHICH WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE EXPLANATION FOR THE LACK OF KILLS TONIGHT, OTHER THAN A SUCCESSFUL PROTECTION).

SEEING AS WE KNOW EVERY WORD OF YOUR ROLE, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO SAY THAT YOU "KNOW I AM SCUM", UNLESS YOU ARE TRYING TO DIRECT A MISLYNCH. AND YOU COULD ONLY BE TRYING TO DO THAT IF YOU HAVE BEEN RECRUITED INTO THE CULT.

YOU HAVE ALREADY SCREWED OVER THE TOWN ONCE IN THIS GAME (ON DAY ONE), AND YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO IT AGAIN. WE NEED TO BE RID OF YOU POSTHASTE.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:57 am

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petroleumjelly wrote:GOODNESS.

FRITZLER, YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ROLE-BLOCKED MAZ MEDIAS LAST NIGHT. I PROTECTED YOU LAST NIGHT. NOBODY DIED LAST NIGHT. MAZ MEDIAS PROBABLY EITHER TRIED TO RECRUIT SOMEBODY LAST NIGHT, OR MAY HAVE EVEN ATTEMPTED TO KILL SOMEBODY LAST NIGHT (WHICH WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE EXPLANATION FOR THE LACK OF KILLS TONIGHT, OTHER THAN A SUCCESSFUL PROTECTION).

SEEING AS WE KNOW EVERY WORD OF YOUR ROLE, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO SAY THAT YOU "KNOW I AM SCUM", UNLESS YOU ARE TRYING TO DIRECT A MISLYNCH. AND YOU COULD ONLY BE TRYING TO DO THAT IF YOU HAVE BEEN RECRUITED INTO THE CULT.

YOU HAVE ALREADY SCREWED OVER THE TOWN ONCE IN THIS GAME (ON DAY ONE), AND YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO IT AGAIN. WE NEED TO BE RID OF YOU POSTHASTE.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:03 pm

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WELL, YOU KEEP TRYING TO THINK OF SOME SORT OF "TELL" FOR ME THEN, RATHER THAN REPEATING OVER AND OVER THAT "I'M SCUM" AND TRYING TO GET OTHERS TO FOLLOW YOU. FOR THE MOMENT, I SEE ABSOLUTELY NO REASONING BEHIND YOUR VOTE.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:12 pm

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Here's a reason: denying the obvious!

If there are two mafiosos, which there presumably must be considering we've hung or killed none, they win when anyone who is not a mafioso is lynched. Do you understand that? If you ever stop trying to persuade people with your linguistic juggernaut posts, I highly suggest you take that into account.

Oh, wait. I think you have, scum.
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