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Agh, I'm confused. I don't have time to re-read everything right now, will do later this day if able.

Apologies, guys. This weekend is the prerelease for the new Magic set, which means I'm working 34 hours in three days. Usually these things are slow enough that I can still post, but it's been uncharacteristically rough this weekend. I'll catch up tomorrow.

Nomni, it would not surprise me in the least if 2Pac and Satan were scum together. But, since in general most people seem more confident in a Satan lynch, why not just lynch him today? The thing is, I see other possible partners for Satan, and so knowing his allignment for sure is more helpful than knowing 2Pac's, plus Satan is all but confirmed while 2Pac is difficult to read due to his posting style.

L-1!

Please state intent to hammer and give Satan one last chance to plead his case.

@Runaway
Please explain your vote on Satan... Seems like you are just jumping on the wagon bc it is the thing to do. Yes we need a lynch today( game day) but we also need to to understand each others motive for doing so. Your vote seem pretty opportunistic. As far as we know you are jumping on the Satan Wagon bc he is your scum buddy and you are trying to cover yourself in case he get lynched and flips scum....Thanks

Ranawey, you never answered Satan as to what about his treatment of the replacement was scummy.

Now that Satan has defended himself, here are my thoughts: I think he's probably innocent. The contradiction in question is perhaps more likely to come from scum than from town, since scum may have a hard time keeping track of what wagons they were pushing, but it is far from unthinkable that it could come from town. It is easy to get "caught up in the moment" when making an argument, and town are less likely to carefully monitor their statements for contradictions. The fact that Satan is blaming his "aggressiveness" for the suspicions on him seems to fit this hypothesis. He could be scum, but he's not even the second most suspicious in my eyes.

Can't we just lynch 2Pac? Please? Just do this one thing for me? If Satan's scum he'll slip again and we'll get more evidence on him as time goes by, but 2Pac gives us very little to work with.

Skelda, "people seeming confident in X" is a bad metric to go by. Some of those people are scum. Have your own thoughts and your own opinions, trust only trustworthy people (ideally lynched townies).

@Fuzzy
Have you read anything before my vote?

@Nominull
Oh, I thought I did explained. Well, he kept repeating the slot was scum, since bob's action could be taken as scummy, with his reasoning. When bob gets replaced, and he says he's not happy with that, he knows that probably the one replacing him, knowing it's town, won't "scumtell" as bob did. Satan loses the one he wanted to get rid of.

I hope it's understandable, I don't know what's happening to my mind today, and my grammar is sucking more than ever.

@Fuzzy
I wanted to read Satan's responses to Reg's accusations, since I agreed with Reg. Wasn't happy with his response. Got confused. Gave a little of thought, then voted.

Nomni, other than his playstyle, what makes 2Pac worthy of a lynch?

And if 2Pac is innocent, they are going to want to kill you, which would set us back so much. I'm just not convinced...

Ain't hammer time yet playas,
Got another whole day,

@Regfan
You haven't stopped posting walls even after you been caught up,
What is worse is that all your reads are based on associative tells and meta, sup?
If Nomiscum is so "sincere" like you claim,
Why hasn't he scumhunted for like, lets see, oh yeah, the whole game,
Better to policy lynch then get information?
Yeah right, this punk playa is scum with no hesitation.

Also 'splain time for we the town nation,
How bout' you 'splain Satan's scum motivation?

@Nomiscum
Nomiscum don't be sad son,
After yo lynch, won't have to cry anymore, you'll be done,
Tunnel tunnel tunnel, because you know I won't quit,
"The town is broken" is a lame bull shtick.
Nobody is buying that you just don't care,
You been riding deez' nuts like a popcorn playa.

@Skelda
What up scumgoat,
'Splain how you are so sure of the scum team,
You straight up blaze up and have a scum dream?
"Satan is all but confirmed",
And I'm hard to read,
Your applied logic is worse than Creed.

Ha and now in post 436 your just not convinced?
You are fence sitting like a mo-fo and getting ish minced.

@Ranaway
You are all over the place young,
Sheep me and lets lynch this scum

@2Pac

Any specific thoughts on Satan?

2Pac, you are a bloody pain. Shut up and talk about the matter on hand.

Nom, scum cannot explain scum slips because there is nothign to explain, they messed up so all they can do is blame it on something else like 'aggressiveness' 'newbie' which he's attempting to do. If he was town he'd actually be able to explain the whole thing logically and he hasnt'.

In post 413, SatanHellYeah wrote:@Regfan So, basically, I am scum because my real intentions are a fake. My vote on Bob, did it actually put him at L-1? Didn't notice. I'd probably haven't done it if I had knew about it.

The point is, I really never thought he was scum.

You are the living proof of him being town. I might be bad, but not scum. However, I don't think I am going to change your mind. Your read is very solid. I deserve to be lyched as much as Skelda, for my behavior is not transparent enough. So let me propose this. Let's lynch him. Maybe when he turns scum you will believe in my innocence. Maybe you won't. Please, reconsider your read.

Again, there is undeniable proof of you stating that you think he's scum. Not just think he's scum, see Post 177 you state the following about Bob: so you continuously attempting to deny that fact is you being scum, there's no town motivation for lying and denying your actions. There is scum motivation however.

In post 437, 2Pac wrote: @Regfan; You haven't stopped posting walls even after you been caught up,

What is worse is that all your reads are based on associative tells and meta, sup?

If Nomiscum is so "sincere" like you claim, Why hasn't he scumhunted for like, lets see, oh yeah, the whole game, Better to policy lynch then get information? Yeah right, this punk playa is scum with no hesitation.

Also 'splain time for we the town nation, How bout' you 'splain Satan's scum motivation?

The bolded is absolute bullshit , the only read of mine that's based on meta at all is Nom, that doesn't mean that "all my reads are based on meta" and my read on him isn't purely meta. I have zero reads that are based on assositive tells. None. I have associative tells I'm considering for post-lynch but none that are swaying who I want to lynch. Really you're attempting to attack me here while being very vague and lying. I've explained why I think Nom's playing the way he is; He gets aggravated by people not playing 'correctly' and wants to lynch you to remove a distraction plus thinks your scum.

Oh and I have explained for the whole nation what the scum motivation is for Satans post 3-4 times. I've done it over and over and over again. You said "it's newb and not scum", I asked you howso and you never explained, you just turned the question back on me without answering. You're really just strengthening the fact that when Satan flips scum you become super super likely scum.

Also we're not taking this to 1 day to the deadline so it creates potential for crazy confusion and things that we don't want to happen.

Yes, Satan, hit us with your best shot.

I... I have to do this.

You can't explain your illogical behavior logically, but townies often behave illogically.

But whatever. Hurry up and claim, Satan, so we can move on to 2Pac.

In post 445, Nominull wrote:But whatever. Hurry up and claim, Satan, so we can move on to 2Pac.

Scumpost.

The thing is Regfan, ^ this looks worse than Satan's slip.

In post 267, SatanHellYeah wrote:@archie
I am sure you would love Skelda's last post. Do you see the difference between that damn goat and me?

When I said you surely had noticed, without saying what, I thought you really had read it.

You never were really scummy to my eyes

. Pushed you a bit, but my main target is, as always have been since I made my first reads, Skelda. For things like that. He accused me, Ranawey, 2pac, Fuzzy and you Bob of being Scum. That's 5/9 scummy people. In the other hand, he does not want to lynch Nominull, and claims to be the only one defending him. A bit too heroic.
And now he states this: No one is getting lynched, but Archie and Fuzzy. Well done, motherfucker, you have won my vote.

VOTE: Skelda

Satan- what did you mean when you said you never found him scummy? Please explain .....

@Ree- i not sure what to make of RegFans eagerness to lynch Satan. I can see where it can be scummy and where it be a townie statement.

@ Run- Yes I did after I post. I skimmed though page posts so I missed some details on second read I saw where you posted on that/ Sorry about that.

In post 446, Mr_Ree wrote:

In post 445, Nominull wrote:But whatever. Hurry up and claim, Satan, so we can move on to 2Pac.

Scumpost.

The thing is Regfan, ^ this looks worse than Satan's slip.

Should I take you at your word that you're good at this game? If you are, that's a scumclaim.