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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:50 pm
by Wagon Me Pal
In post 417, ika wrote:
start with "what makes you so comfortable making him l-1?"
Well look whose talking here. *facepalm* First, what makes
you
so comfortable putting nacho at l-1?

What about "ninja-hammering" huh?

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:55 pm
by Wagon Me Pal
Also notice how ika puts bcj at null even though bcj has a shitload of content.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:00 pm
by RayFrost
Lyme, give a list of your reads without any reasons or quotes or anything attached to them.

I'd make a snarky comment about how you basically only write in one liners, but it's not necessary. I still feel the need to note that I really hate any posting style that revolves around one liners due to just how tiresome it is to see fifty posts by one person when it coulda been three.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:06 pm
by ika
In post 425, Wagon Me Pal wrote:
In post 417, ika wrote:
start with "what makes you so comfortable making him l-1?"

Well look whose talking here. *facepalm* First, what makes
you
so comfortable putting nacho at l-1?

What about "ninja-hammering" huh?
i didnt phrase it like he did. i said "im l-1ing him"
In post 426, Wagon Me Pal wrote:Also notice how ika puts bcj at null even though bcj has a shitload of content.
becasue his last few post are looking quite scumym and screams survivalism

contents=/=town, i would elaborate but i feel like you are just going to go "nope"

frost if you are here could you claify the contents=/=town for him i fell like he will listen to you more.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:22 pm
by RayFrost
Posting content is not equivalent to the content or the person being town. Even if the content in isolation is pro-town, it must also be considered in how it is delivered (word choice, etc), when it is delivered (after other people say the same thing?), why it is delivered (oh noes wagons on me?), and other things of similar nature.

Then there's also the fact that content itself can be anti-town in nature. For a bit of an extreme example, posting a case for everybody in the game to be scum is inherently anti-town in nature due to the fact that it basically opens up the possibility to lynch everyone without actually narrowing down who
is
scum.

Content that does not further the process of finding scum or is posted in such a way as to indicate that the poster is scum is inherently not going to be pro-town content.

Information Instead Of Analysis is a similar case of this wherein the person is posting content, but the content itself is not inherently townish or necessarily coming from a pro-town mindset.

If the game were as easy as "posters of content are town, posters of not-content are scum," then mafia would never have become an interesting or worthwhile game.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:50 am
by bjc
I'm leaving this quote wall out so there is no excuse when ED ignores me.


In post 404, AbboTT wrote:
In post 403, bjc wrote:It just doesn't seem logical to lynch someone that actively posts content in a mafia game on day one over someone who hasn't done anything, won't be replaced, and may/may not be scum
He's got a point here...
And yet, unless I've missed something, you still have your vote on me.
In post 407, emeraldemon wrote: Hard to put my finger on, but bjc sounds so submissive all the time, feels bad to me.
This seems to be common with those who feel I'm scum. Nothing really definitive about me being scum, just feels and that is pretty much it.

Also:
In post 408, bjc wrote:I'm just dying to hear why I'm probably scum.
This is directed at emeraldemon. You tell me why I'm scum. Don't direct me to a post already made; I want your case made now.
In post 410, ika wrote:
dooes anyone else find it odd how non else had intention to hammer yet?
Yes, I for one do find that odd.
In post 411, Wagon Me Pal wrote:
In post 369, bjc wrote:Look, if you guys are eager to lynch someone now, then lynch Rob holy hell. He isn't posting crap but just enough to stay in the game. There is probably scum on my wagon.
Getting scared bro? That just confirms my read on bcj. Obvious scum escaping his lynch by attempting to convince us to inactive lynch Rob.
Look, I can't imagine scum making posts like this, so I'm gonna assume you are just tunneling on me and just doing all around bad town play.
In post 418, ika wrote:i would want bjc to claim though. its rather disturbing that hes l-1 and has not claimed
Why do I need to claim? There is no serious intent to hammer on me. I don't need to potentially hurt the town via claiming.
In post 428, ika wrote:
In post 425, Wagon Me Pal wrote:
In post 417, ika wrote:
start with "what makes you so comfortable making him l-1?"

Well look whose talking here. *facepalm* First, what makes
you
so comfortable putting nacho at l-1?

What about "ninja-hammering" huh?
i didnt phrase it like he did. i said "im l-1ing him"
In post 426, Wagon Me Pal wrote:Also notice how ika puts bcj at null even though bcj has a shitload of content.
becasue his last few post are looking quite scumym and screams survivalism
Let me help convey what I'm trying to convey.

I don't need to survive to achieve my wincon, though it really helps if I do live on. I'm just trying to point out how dumb it is that there are, ATM, two serious lynching candidates (if you look at where votes are right now). One doesn't help the town at all and probably won't be replaced (hmmmmm) and the other is a valuable asset to the town.

If you consider the fact that everyone has the same chance of being scum in a given game, why the hell would you choose the active guy over the inactive guy?
ESPECIALLY when it's been posted by others that they're fine with lynching the inactive guy!?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:58 am
by Wagon Me Pal
Alright.

Bcj-scum
Ika-leaning scum
Abbott-leaning scum
Rayfrost-leaning town
Nacho-leaning town

Rest is null, need to read more.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:03 am
by Wagon Me Pal
In post 428, ika wrote:
In post 426, Wagon Me Pal wrote:Also notice how ika puts bcj at null even though bcj has a shitload of content.
becasue his last few post are looking quite scumym and screams survivalism

contents=/=town, i would elaborate but i feel like you are just going to go "nope"

frost if you are here could you claify the contents=/=town for him i fell like he will listen to you more.
Hey man, I did not say that contents equal town, but bcj has posted more than enough content to tell if they were town or scum posts.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:24 am
by bjc
ika's read activity:

Town
RayFrost
Nacho

ika
LMB
Tiershift (Albeit uncooperative/lazy as fuck)

RobW
AbboTT
Emeraldemon
Scum

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:39 am
by TierShift
In post 430, bjc wrote:
If you consider the fact that everyone has the same chance of being scum in a given game, why the hell would you choose the active guy over the inactive guy?
ESPECIALLY when it's been posted by others that they're fine with lynching the inactive guy!?
Nope, scum lynch>policy lynch. Why are you pushing so hard for a policy lynch all of a sudden?
Everyone has the same chance of being scum before anything is posted. After there is content that is just a ridiculous statement.
In post 433, bjc wrote: Tiershift (Albeit uncooperative/lazy as fuck)
:( not lazy

I did one pretty recently, but:
town
ika
ed
LMB

abbott
ray
nacho
rob

bjc
scum

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:22 am
by bjc
In post 434, TierShift wrote:
In post 430, bjc wrote:
If you consider the fact that everyone has the same chance of being scum in a given game, why the hell would you choose the active guy over the inactive guy?
ESPECIALLY when it's been posted by others that they're fine with lynching the inactive guy!?
Nope, scum lynch>policy lynch. Why are you pushing so hard for a policy lynch all of a sudden?
Everyone has the same chance of being scum before anything is posted. After there is content that is just a ridiculous statement.
That's something I left out (the bolded). However, what content has Rob put out? Also, do you count fluff posting as content? Even if I'm scum, what if I'm trying to bus my scumbuddy that left me to dry by essentially not playing the game? That would get me town cred for sure. :cool:

I'm not even pushing for a policy lynch, but I am not sure you're even reading my posts. My INITIAL POST REGARDING LYNCHING ROB HAD
IF
AT THE START OF THE SUBJECT.

Holy shit, can you read? What does it mean when someone starts something with "if?"

Let's find that quote again...
In post 369, bjc wrote:Look,
if
you guys are eager to lynch someone now, then lynch Rob holy hell. He isn't posting crap but just enough to stay in the game. There is probably scum on my wagon.
In post 434, TierShift wrote:
:( not lazy

I did one pretty recently, but:
town
ika
ed
LMB

abbott
ray
nacho
rob

bjc
scum
Either lazy, uninterested, or scum.

Proving again you can't really read, you list only one person as scum, where ika listed multiple stipulations to partaking in this activity:
In post 410, ika wrote: must have the following constraints

3 people must be pegged as scum no more no less

at least 1 person must be pegged as town
the rest can any flavor or read
you must not give any reasoning for you reads.
you are not to question any of the reads anyone gives untill a fair amount of people give them (lets make it like 6-7 ppl)

im gonna adress a few post first and then do this. if you refuse to i will consider it anti-town and scummy.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:00 am
by AbboTT
3 people must be pegged as scum no more no less
at least 1 person must be pegged as town
the rest can any flavor or read
you must not give any reasoning for you reads.
you are not to question any of the reads anyone gives untill a fair amount of people give them (lets make it like 6-7 ppl)
scum

BCJ
Kaze
ED

--
ika
RobW
Nacho
Nic
--

town

TS
LMB
RF

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:36 am
by bjc
Nic? Kaze....? I think you're talking about another game.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:46 am
by AbboTT
Ah crap. Too many tabs open. One moment.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:50 am
by AbboTT
scum

BCJ
ED
ika

--
RobW
Nacho
--

town

TS
LMB
RF

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:55 am
by ika
now all we need is nachos at least and i can continue the activity. although emralds and robs would also be nice

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:12 am
by ika
nacho i can see your elsewhere on site, plz come do this activity
3 people must be pegged as scum no more no less
at least 1 person must be pegged as town
the rest can any flavor or read
you must not give any reasoning for you reads.
you are not to question any of the reads anyone gives untill a fair amount of people give them (lets make it like 6-7 ppl)
frost already seems to know what im doing with this, im sure you know. and i bet a few others are figuring it out but you list is needed as well otherwise i feel like the entire thing is moot

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:56 am
by TierShift
@My list: I have no idea why ika wants 3 scumreads but sure, draw the line between ray and nacho then.

@Bjc: I don't give a shit if you use the word if or not, you are definitely voicing your approval of a PL pretty heavily, even if you don't vote rob.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:03 am
by bjc
Oh the anger.

Why are you trying so hard to be useless to the town?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:07 am
by TierShift
@Bjc:
In post 443, bjc wrote:Why are you trying so hard to be useless to the town?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:23 am
by ika
In post 442, TierShift wrote:@My list: I have no idea why ika wants 3 scumreads but sure, draw the line between ray and nacho then.

@Bjc: I don't give a shit if you use the word if or not, you are definitely voicing your approval of a PL pretty heavily, even if you don't vote rob.
is your list legitimate or are you going "heres a list leave me alone"

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:24 am
by ika
@tiershift:
In post 444, TierShift wrote:@Bjc:
In post 443, bjc wrote:Why are you trying so hard to be useless to the town?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:59 am
by TierShift
My first list was legitimate but then I needed to have 3 scumreads for some reason so after putting rob and nacho down with bjc it wasn't

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:17 pm
by ika
In post 447, TierShift wrote:My first list was legitimate but then I needed to have 3 scumreads for some reason so after putting rob and nacho down with bjc it wasn't
not sure if you just scum, or just noob.

you understand the flaw with just one scum read right?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:45 pm
by GuyInFreezer
bump